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Re: Amazing Durian Year
« Reply #25 on: September 09, 2017, 07:41:43 PM »
Ok, you're skeptical of the effect of fertilizer. And i can't prove that it's what made the difference. But consider this mine have been fruiting for a whole month now, and you say you have only seen aborted fruit so far? Location is probably not a factor as i'm very close to Peepekeo and Hakalau. Are the places you're talking about close to sea level?

Elevations of the two orchards are about 600' and 900'. Premature fruits have mostly been from broken branches from the weight of the fruits. Only a few random premature drops. Lots of monster fruits still maturing.

All my anecdotal impressions suggest the productivity is purely weather-based with no connection to fertilizing, but it's all speculation.
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Re: Amazing Durian Year
« Reply #26 on: September 09, 2017, 09:30:33 PM »
Ok, you're skeptical of the effect of fertilizer. And i can't prove that it's what made the difference. But consider this mine have been fruiting for a whole month now, and you say you have only seen aborted fruit so far? Location is probably not a factor as i'm very close to Peepekeo and Hakalau. Are the places you're talking about close to sea level?

Elevations of the two orchards are about 600' and 900'. Premature fruits have mostly been from broken branches from the weight of the fruits. Only a few random premature drops. Lots of monster fruits still maturing.

All my anecdotal impressions suggest the productivity is purely weather-based with no connection to fertilizing, but it's all speculation.
Ok, that's quite a lot higher than where i have my durians planted, which is only 100 feet, and may explain later production. If you look at my initial post i said that high production was probably a combination of ideal weather and fertilizing, not just the fertilizing alone.
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Re: Amazing Durian Year
« Reply #27 on: September 10, 2017, 04:35:19 AM »
Some pictures and notes on the "sulok sionggong" hybrid durian I tasted today. It turned out to be better than I could've hoped, really incredible down to the last bit. My experience with durian is limited to Hawai'i and I've never travelled elsewhere. It was my first time tasting a dense, extremely creamy durian. It was dramatically different than other durians I've tasted. The texture was pretty thick like creamy peanut butter. It reminded me of moist types of canistel, peanut butter fruit, etc. Not especially sweet, not bitter, mild, complex, subtle. Little to no odor. This is a fruit many people would get excited about.








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Re: Amazing Durian Year
« Reply #28 on: September 10, 2017, 09:12:08 AM »
Nice report.  I wonder how I could get material like that here....
This business of hybridizing durian, then growing out the seedlings seems almost like a project that would have to be completed by the next generation of horticulturists!
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Re: Amazing Durian Year
« Reply #29 on: September 10, 2017, 10:30:32 AM »
This was a special experience for me for this durian year.  This is d. graveolens grown from seed at a mid-elevation farm on the pacific coast of CR in an area the gets a pronounced dry season with a dry wind, something I don't get at my project.  The trees took about 15 years to come into production although they are good size, maybe 10m tall.
The taste is mild and agreeable, a creamy texture.
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Re: Amazing Durian Year
« Reply #30 on: September 10, 2017, 12:10:08 PM »
Nice, I am envious. Didn't know there's egg yoke colored durians.

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Re: Amazing Durian Year
« Reply #31 on: September 10, 2017, 04:18:16 PM »
Nice report.  I wonder how I could get material like that here....
This business of hybridizing durian, then growing out the seedlings seems almost like a project that would have to be completed by the next generation of horticulturists!
Peter
There are lots of different species corsses that have been done or occured naturally in Indonesia. I have a few different hybrids i'm growing out. The question is how stable they are from seed? I think it's been done over several generations so thay might be already quite stabilized?
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Re: Amazing Durian Year
« Reply #32 on: September 10, 2017, 06:59:41 PM »
Yes, it's nice when your hybridization project isn't starting from scratch.  You are fortunate to have that material.
Nice if it is stable from seed but for asexual propagation it doesn't matter.
We always talk about Thai and Malaysian selections, what about quality varieties of Indonesian origin?
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Re: Amazing Durian Year
« Reply #33 on: September 10, 2017, 07:45:15 PM »
Yes, it's nice when your hybridization project isn't starting from scratch.  You are fortunate to have that material.
Nice if it is stable from seed but for asexual propagation it doesn't matter.
We always talk about Thai and Malaysian selections, what about quality varieties of Indonesian origin?
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I believe Indonesia shares a lot of the same varieties as those in Malaysia. The island of Borneo is belonging part of it to Indonesia (Kalimantan) and the other part to Malaysia. I know that some of the Indonesian vendors go to Malaysian parts also to collect seeds.
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