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The 2018 South Florida mango crop, up, down or sideways?
« on: November 12, 2017, 08:40:59 AM »
Will 2018 be be better that 2017? My production was down and think many others had the same problem. Maybe this applied just to SE Florida and not SW Florida?
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After a poor year are the mango trees inclined to make up for it the following year?
Or maybe 2017 was a normal year for you and I am all wet.

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Re: The 2018 South Florida mango crop, up, down or sideways?
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2017, 11:16:25 AM »
Well for what it's worth we are forecasted to once again, have a warmer and wetter winter than average for about the 6th/7th season in a row...

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Re: The 2018 South Florida mango crop, up, down or sideways?
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2017, 12:20:05 PM »
NOAA's forecast is for warmer and dryer.  http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/predictions/long_range/seasonal.php?lead=2        In SW Florida I think that the main determiner of crop size will be how the trees were pruned this year. Irma's horticultural pruning skills left a lot to be desired.

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Re: The 2018 South Florida mango crop, up, down or sideways?
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2017, 08:01:11 AM »
Lost only one mango tree. but planted many new tree's from cotton candy, fruit punch, and 8 others some new ver some old. There some are about to flower

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Re: The 2018 South Florida mango crop, up, down or sideways?
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2017, 09:47:44 AM »
Dwarf Hawaiian and Ugly Betty have started to flower in my yard. I have five mangoes on the Choc Anon part of a multi-graft tree. The tree flowered in September and the fruits should be ready soon.

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Re: The 2018 South Florida mango crop, up, down or sideways?
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2017, 10:20:53 AM »
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Re: The 2018 South Florida mango crop, up, down or sideways?
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2017, 11:07:12 AM »
Typical early bloom here on a lot of the "bloom sensitive" stuff. Unfortunately that is no indication of how large the regular season 2018 crop will be.

I would wager to guess though that based on the damage incurred by Irma, coupled with what will likely be another joke of a winter which Jani above alluded to, we can likely expect another disappointing/mediocre-by-historical standard mango season in south Florida.


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Re: The 2018 South Florida mango crop, up, down or sideways?
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2017, 12:38:53 PM »
Cool winters help mango production, right?  We may no longer see cool winters.
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Re: The 2018 South Florida mango crop, up, down or sideways?
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2017, 01:01:12 PM »
Cool winters help mango production, right?  We may no longer see cool winters.

Correct. They stimulate the trees to bloom, and the extent of that bloom will typically be what determines the final crop size, though there are other factors like fruit set and retention that can be determined by male/female flower ratio, etc.

The length and amount of time of the cool weather plays a big role. For instance, there is a major difference between say 7 days of nighttime lows below 60F as opposed to 10-14 days. And if the temperatures rise dramatically after the cold front, trees will often flush mixed panicles that contain both leaves and inflorescence, or sometimes flush some pure growth. This has happened for several seasons now.

For some varieties, this pattern could be a major problem in the long term in terms of getting consistent crops.

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Re: The 2018 South Florida mango crop, up, down or sideways?
« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2017, 09:21:11 AM »
Irma, + a warm winter.  I am anticipating a lousy crop.  Add to that some unusually ravenous rodents due to diminished food sources.  😬

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Re: The 2018 South Florida mango crop, up, down or sideways?
« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2017, 12:45:14 PM »
2017 was not a good year for my yard. Fewer mangoes. I was hoping for a better yield in 2018, but a warmer winter will be just more of the same.

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Re: The 2018 South Florida mango crop, up, down or sideways?
« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2017, 01:11:50 PM »
2017 was a good year just everything came in later.

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Re: The 2018 South Florida mango crop, up, down or sideways?
« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2017, 10:31:09 PM »
Those who live in central Florida may have better yields than those in south Florida since we will have cooler temps this winter?

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Re: The 2018 South Florida mango crop, up, down or sideways?
« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2017, 10:38:02 PM »
Those who live in central Florida may have better yields than those in south Florida since we will have cooler temps this winter?

Possibly.

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Re: The 2018 South Florida mango crop, up, down or sideways?
« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2017, 11:39:16 PM »
Usually my maha chanok is in flower on thanksgiving... not this year. Leaves are still on the tree just shredded up from the winds of Irma. Tips look like they are starting to swell and will propbably flush very soon. Lots of rain it seems.

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Re: The 2018 South Florida mango crop, up, down or sideways?
« Reply #15 on: November 28, 2017, 02:02:34 AM »
Cool winters help mango production, right?  We may no longer see cool winters.

Remember mangoes grow well here in the tropics, with no cold snaps,  flower induction is practiced on commercial farms,  to synchronize crops, but backyard growers get fruit every year.   I think rain is a bigger factor down here.  a wet winter,  is bad news.
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Re: The 2018 South Florida mango crop, up, down or sideways?
« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2017, 07:15:57 AM »
When Wilma came through S. Florida it shook my lychees within an inch of its life. Best year I ever had. Hoping for the best again this year.

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Re: The 2018 South Florida mango crop, up, down or sideways?
« Reply #17 on: November 29, 2017, 10:50:56 AM »
Yea it kicks the tree into better growth and produce for me also

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Re: The 2018 South Florida mango crop, up, down or sideways?
« Reply #18 on: November 29, 2017, 12:10:20 PM »
I expect a better crop, as will have 4 fruiting size trees this coming year vs 1 last year =)

Improve your odds and grow more trees!

Hopefully the weather and thus ripening will be better in 2018.
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Re: The 2018 South Florida mango crop, up, down or sideways?
« Reply #19 on: November 29, 2017, 12:21:33 PM »
My Young, Nam Doc Mai and Fruit Punch are blooming

Usually get first bloom in late march or later

Cooler up this far, lows recently have moved more toward the mid 50's and go up or down from there.  We usually have one to three days of temps that reach freezing. 


I didn't cover anything last year without any  damage.  But if I get flowers and fruit this far up and reach full ripeness I will be surprised




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Re: The 2018 South Florida mango crop, up, down or sideways?
« Reply #20 on: November 29, 2017, 12:29:46 PM »
cooling is just one of the stressors that triggers flowering in many plants, but it seems to be a pretty good one with mangoes

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Re: The 2018 South Florida mango crop, up, down or sideways?
« Reply #21 on: November 29, 2017, 12:51:56 PM »
i could see for like Squam256 is running a business off them which affects her outcome but as a hobby grower I been getting more tastier fruits last year vs other years

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Re: The 2018 South Florida mango crop, up, down or sideways?
« Reply #22 on: January 16, 2018, 08:25:56 AM »
A little late to the game but finally getting some blooms.
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Re: The 2018 South Florida mango crop, up, down or sideways?
« Reply #23 on: January 16, 2018, 08:58:36 AM »

Another 31 forecast for me on Thursday morning. I have a few blooms just starting on Glenn, Cogshall and Maha but I also have some frost damage from the last freeze a few weeks ago  :'(

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Re: The 2018 South Florida mango crop, up, down or sideways?
« Reply #24 on: January 16, 2018, 09:28:43 AM »
I have blooms on Maha, Francis, Kesar and Hoa Loc.  Hoping for ST Maui as well.  Maybe the upcoming cold snap will motivate it.
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