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Tropical Fruit => Tropical Fruit Discussion => Topic started by: RiversOFT on March 30, 2017, 11:03:49 PM
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Just wondering what kinds of pineapples people are growing
I have
Mona sugarloaf
Florida special
And white jade
I also have a small Bromelia pinguin
I know there's a red one out there and I've heard of a green one ?
Any other unique ones that are edible ?
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Most of what is widely available are the tissue culture plants from one of the major suppliers - white jade, elite gold, Florida special, smooth cayenne, and sugarloaf. I have these. I think not many people on the forum are interested in other varieties of pineapples because md-2 (most grocery store pineapples) is considered superior to the other varieties and it's so easy to get one. The ARS has an extensive collection in Hawaii that you can request small tissue culture plants from if you want some of the rare types. I keep meaning to do this.
There is an edible red variety called Red Spanish that is widely planted in other countries. I've never seen one in the US though. I think I read it tends to be a smaller fruit than md-2, but is supposedly a more durable plant. Not sure about green though.
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Could you post a link to the place in Hawaii you mentioned ?
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https://www.ars.usda.gov/pacific-west-area/hilo-hi/daniel-k-inouye-us-pacific-basin-agricultural-research-center/tropical-plant-genetic-resources-and-disease-research/docs/pineapple-collection/ (https://www.ars.usda.gov/pacific-west-area/hilo-hi/daniel-k-inouye-us-pacific-basin-agricultural-research-center/tropical-plant-genetic-resources-and-disease-research/docs/pineapple-collection/)
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I am very interested in Indian varieties, like Giant Kew, Queen, etc. But I don't know how to get them in the States.
http://santhagreens.com/plant/pineapple/pineapple-varieties/# (http://santhagreens.com/plant/pineapple/pineapple-varieties/#)
I'm growing West African Sugarloaf, White Jade, Florida Special, Elite Gold, Smooth Cayenne, and several tops from store bought Hawaiian (Dole I think) pineapples.
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funny, just picked up white jade, fl special, and sugar loaf the other day from an eBay vendor. 2 little plants of each. looking forward to growing these, but am also interested in other good varieties. will be following along
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funny, just picked up white jade, fl special, and sugar loaf the other day from an eBay vendor. 2 little plants of each. looking forward to growing these, but am also interested in other good varieties. will be following along
small world that's where I got mine too sounds like the same seller I got 2 of each too
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The new curator has stated that he is rolling this back & will not be sending out plant material to individuals anymore, unless you can demonstrate you have a good reason (researcher, not hobbyist). So, don't be disappointed if Peter turns you down.
John
https://www.ars.usda.gov/pacific-west-area/hilo-hi/daniel-k-inouye-us-pacific-basin-agricultural-research-center/tropical-plant-genetic-resources-and-disease-research/docs/pineapple-collection/ (https://www.ars.usda.gov/pacific-west-area/hilo-hi/daniel-k-inouye-us-pacific-basin-agricultural-research-center/tropical-plant-genetic-resources-and-disease-research/docs/pineapple-collection/)
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Do you think we could get Oscar to distribute more of this red pineapple beauty! I'd really like to try growing this one!
http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=2050.msg37416#msg37416 (http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=2050.msg37416#msg37416)
and then there is his famous pineapple fruit cocktail plant!
http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=2050.msg35707#msg35707 (http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=2050.msg35707#msg35707)
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He might be more inclined to share if you offer something interesting.
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Oscar's "fruit cocktail pineapple" was just a joke. He put a couple different pineapples on one plant for the picture.
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He might be more inclined to share if you offer something interesting.
Looking at what Oscar grows, I don't think I would have anything of value to trade with him. Good idea though.
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yeah, he has an amazing pineapple collection that would be difficult to add to. Maybe something else, nobody has everything they want, for long at least. A guy at the usda research center told me that they appreciate when requesters share different genetic material with them.
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Check out this bad boy. I took this picture yesterday. It is Ananas comosus var bracteatus as far as I can tell. My friend got it as a Spanish Red.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/4/3956/33644825431_b8da02e427_c.jpg)
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I am currently planting side shoots of the red pineapple, so hopefully next year i will have enough to sell to any forum member interested. It's really a great looking and tasting pineapple. I just wish i could get a cultivar name for it?
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Check out this bad boy. I took this picture yesterday. It is Ananas comosus var bracteatus as far as I can tell. My friend got it as a Spanish Red.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/4/3956/33644825431_b8da02e427_c.jpg)
I have that one and also a variegated version of same thing. Correct name is Ananas bracteatus. It is a different species. Bad news is it's not really edible. Just ornamental.
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PM sent. I'm excited!
Bill
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I am currently planting side shoots of the red pineapple, so hopefully next year i will have enough to sell to any forum member interested. It's really a great looking and tasting pineapple. I just wish i could get a cultivar name for it?
That is awesome Oscar! Good news, so I'll check back with you next year and see how the red pineapples are doing. I'd really like to try those in San Diego and see how they will grow.
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Boy, those tissue cultures grow REALLY slowly. I have a White Jade, Elite Gold and Florida special in ground going on 2 years and they have barely doubled in size from the 5-6" when I got them while store bought tops put in the ground within a few months of these have grown like weeds and are producing fruit already.
For So. Fla folks, Excalibur IIRC had some ornamental types the last time I was there, sadly about two years ago.
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Hello,
I picked up this unusual pineapple at a farmers market in Miami last summer. Does anyone know what variety it might be? The seller only had a couple that day and never had them again. It was really tasty with a soft core. I was able to grow a plant from the crown too.
Thanks!
-J
(https://s9.postimg.cc/59rvg83bv/IMG_0063.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/59rvg83bv/)
(https://s9.postimg.cc/48rmr3mcb/IMG_0064.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/48rmr3mcb/)
(https://s9.postimg.cc/fza5m84ij/IMG_0062.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/fza5m84ij/)
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I am currently planting side shoots of the red pineapple, so hopefully next year i will have enough to sell to any forum member interested. It's really a great looking and tasting pineapple. I just wish i could get a cultivar name for it?
That is awesome Oscar! Good news, so I'll check back with you next year and see how the red pineapples are doing. I'd really like to try those in San Diego and see how they will grow.
Hoping to have enough for all interested forum members by summer 2018.
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Here's one of the red pineapples from you Oscar. :)
(http://i.imgur.com/NxvROoj.jpg?1)
The one in front in this picture I bought from eBay and it was cold Hawaiian Red. I'm not sure if it the same as your Red.
(http://i.imgur.com/NfR3zRV.jpg?1)
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I am currently planting side shoots of the red pineapple, so hopefully next year i will have enough to sell to any forum member interested. It's really a great looking and tasting pineapple. I just wish i could get a cultivar name for it?
That is awesome Oscar! Good news, so I'll check back with you next year and see how the red pineapples are doing. I'd really like to try those in San Diego and see how they will grow.
Hoping to have enough for all interested forum members by summer 2018.
Not sure what type it is you can goto the website I'm listing below and look at each photo and see what you can some up with let us know
https://npgsweb.ars-grin.gov/gringlobal/view2.aspx?dv=web_site_taxon_accessionlist¶ms=:taxonomyid=463336;:siteid=6 (https://npgsweb.ars-grin.gov/gringlobal/view2.aspx?dv=web_site_taxon_accessionlist¶ms=:taxonomyid=463336;:siteid=6)
Sorry this was meant for jelmore post
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I am currently planting side shoots of the red pineapple, so hopefully next year i will have enough to sell to any forum member interested. It's really a great looking and tasting pineapple. I just wish i could get a cultivar name for it?
That is awesome Oscar! Good news, so I'll check back with you next year and see how the red pineapples are doing. I'd really like to try those in San Diego and see how they will grow.
Hoping to have enough for all interested forum members by summer 2018.
Would love to order a couple as well! I'll save myself a memo to reach out to you around then :)
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I am currently planting side shoots of the red pineapple, so hopefully next year i will have enough to sell to any forum member interested.
Awesome, sign me up for as many as possible. Is the flesh red as well?
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I am currently planting side shoots of the red pineapple, so hopefully next year i will have enough to sell to any forum member interested.
Awesome, sign me up for as many as possible. Is the flesh red as well?
No, only exterior is red. But is very good tasting. Will make announcement next summer when i'm ready to send some. Will have only very limited quantity.
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Here's a list of several ways (https://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/morton/pineapple.html#Propagation) to increase the number of plants you can generate with propagation material. I wish they had more illustrations, but it was written back in 1987, when the world was in black and white.
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Here's a list of several ways (https://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/morton/pineapple.html#Propagation) to increase the number of plants you can generate with propagation material. I wish they had more illustrations, but it was written back in 1987, when the world was in black and white.
Mark in Texas found another article (http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=9296.msg297304#msg297304) with more detail on propagation techniques (https://www.ctahr.hawaii.edu/oc/freepubs/pdf/f_n-7.pdf).
Some tidbits:
Stump sectioning. Stumps are harvested after the one-inch open heart flowering stage or after fruit harvest. Leaves are stripped off starting at the base, or they are cut off leaving the leaf bases attached to the stump. The stump is cut longitudinally into quarters or sixths, which are then cut into wedge-shaped sections weigh ing 15–20 g, each having at least one axillary bud. The sections are dipped in fungicide and planted bud upward 2.5 cm apart and 2 cm beneath the soil in a well-prepared, fumigated nursery bed. The bed may be lightly mulched with straw or compost. As many as 50 sections may be obtained per stump. A section will produce another stump in about two years.
Crown sectioning. Crowns are cut vertically into quarters or sixths, starting at the top and cutting toward the base. The vertical sections may be cut horizontally in half between the crown base and apex. After drying for one to two days, the sections are dipped in fungicide and sown 2.5 cm apart in nursery beds, with the leaves above ground. Plantlets from crown sections should reach the original crown size in less than one year. Under semisterile conditions, crowns have been micro sectioned to produce up to 100 plants.
:o
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Rich soils and over fertilization seems to have created many offspring from my tops. I have several tops from Kuai White Sugarloaf Pineapples I ordered about a month ago and put them in rich soil with small amounts of slow release 18-6-8 Nutricote and they are sending off good amounts of clones.
Simon
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Here's a picture of a top I got about two months ago with three clones coming out of it.
(https://s26.postimg.cc/4btfj2md1/IMG_3295.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/4btfj2md1/)
Simon
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Here's a picture of a top I got about two months ago with three clones coming out of it.
(https://s26.postimg.cc/4btfj2md1/IMG_3295.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/4btfj2md1/)
Simon
The clones would have started to grow anyways with or with out the fertilizer added its cause
the center of the crown was tore out and that forced it to start growing ground suckers in its place
you should pick the biggest one and let it keep growing into a mother plant remove the others or
replant them into new pots
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My first tops I got from Jude were also cut out but the center grew. I wonder what caused the first ones to grow out and these later ones to grow suckers? I have a lot of White Jade clones now but very few White Sugarloaf so I'm going to keep all of them for now. I'll definitely start thinning them once I have enough plant material. Thanks for the tip Jimmy!
Simon