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You might check out Fullerton Arboretum -- they have a lot of big healthy tropical and subtropical fruit trees and they sell whatever is in season. (Like they have a giant Ice Cream Bean tree, just as a random example.)

Also visiting the various nurseries in the Vista / Fallbrook area, like Exotica, Atkins, and Clausen is always nice because they have a lot of mature in ground trees along with potted ones for sale, and usually have some fruit for you to try.

You'll also find a lot of mature tropical fruit trees growing in random neighborhoods especially in the corridor between central LA county to central Orange County, and also in the San Gabriel Valley.

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I am growing what I think is P. popenovii, but I haven't confirmed it yet because it hasn't flowered yet. I tried several times with packaged seeds from different online sellers and had no luck, but I got two seedlings to sprout from seeds I got from someone who got them fresh in Colombia.

But sometimes Passifloras are slow to germinate. One time it took 6 months for some I had to sprout.

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I have a nice 6 foot Psidium longipetiolatum (Arazá serrano) tree for sale. The tree started fruiting last year. It's in a #15 pot. $120.

Local pickup in Orange County, CA.


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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: For Sale: Mulberry Cuttings
« on: February 24, 2024, 10:30:41 PM »
How's the graft compatibility of Red Himalayan wood on a Persian mulberry tree?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is anyone growing Dune Soapberry ?
« on: February 24, 2024, 09:31:29 PM »
My one plant of dune soapberry that I started 8 years ago is still alive, and still grows fine, but every year it dies back a good amount for no obvious reason, so it's still only a few feet tall. Hasn't flowered yet.

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There was discussion long ago on the Cloudforest forum about which varieties handle cold the best. I vaguely remember Walton and Santa Cruz among the list of the most cold hardy, or at least bouncing back from frost most quickly.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: avocados in a lemon growing area?
« on: February 18, 2024, 11:47:42 PM »
There are healthy and productive avocado trees in London, which may be some indication of what can grow in Europe. It does have the advantage of an urban heat island and the generally mild UK climate relative to its latitude, but it still gets temperatures well below freezing every year.

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When I was growing Ugni in the East Bay, I found that they did best with complete afternoon shade. They don't seem to fruit much if they're in complete shade, so full sun in the morning / full shade in the afternoon worked best for me.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Himalayan Mulberry scions
« on: February 18, 2024, 02:32:05 AM »
How does this variety compare to Pakistan Mulberry?

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Annona Scions 2024
« on: February 14, 2024, 10:46:34 PM »
I'm looking forward to a taste test report of the Atemoya x Rollinia hybrid...

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Looking for Painter Rollinia scions
« on: February 14, 2024, 10:43:31 PM »
Thanks!

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Looking for Painter Rollinia scions
« on: February 14, 2024, 11:51:31 AM »
I've read good things about Painter Rollinia -- does anyone have scions of it? How does it taste compared with other Rollinias? Message me if you do -- thanks!

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Annona Scions 2024
« on: February 13, 2024, 11:53:55 AM »
That's great. What sort of conditions does Rollinia need to fruit in San Diego? I figure it probably needs morning sun and afternoon shade in the summer and protection from wind. Is that about right?

My friend Paulish have fruited rollinia in San Diego.  My big rollinia died before it could fruit.  I have a new rollinia growing and hopefully it will fruit in a year or two.  There are multiple members of CRFG San Diego chapter have fruited Rollinia in San Diego. 

As for me, there is a bug or fungus in my soil that have killed multiple rollinia and sugar apple tree.  I have learn to graft all important cultivars/experimental seedlings on cherimoya rootstock to prevent future death. Some Rollinia, Saramuyo, and sugar apple 8 feet tall with 3 inches diameter trunk have died.

I use pollens from rollinia to pollinate an ap.  I will try fruit in a couple of days.  Below is the encapsulated flower.  Not all flowers are encapsulated—maybe a 50:50 ratio.  The mother fruit was excellent and I planted the seed.  It took 3 years for plant to fruit.

I didn't even know Rolllinia could hybridize with Atemoya. Wow. Did you hybridize it yourself? How's it taste? How's its cold hardiness? I want to try it. :-)



Very interesting. Have you been able to fruit Rollinia in San Diego?

I'd really like to hear how this hybrid fruit compares to the parents.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB Avocado Scions type b only
« on: February 12, 2024, 10:40:28 PM »
Reed is an A type: https://avocado.ucr.edu/variety-list#reed
Nabal is a B type: https://avocado.ucr.edu/variety-list#nabal

(Interesing that Reed is a different type than its parent.)

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Annona Scions 2024
« on: February 12, 2024, 10:38:11 PM »
I use pollens from rollinia to pollinate an ap.  I will try fruit in a couple of days.  Below is the encapsulated flower.  Not all flowers are encapsulated—maybe a 50:50 ratio.  The mother fruit was excellent and I planted the seed.  It took 3 years for plant to fruit.

I didn't even know Rolllinia could hybridize with Atemoya. Wow. Did you hybridize it yourself? How's it taste? How's its cold hardiness? I want to try it. :-)



Very interesting. Have you been able to fruit Rollinia in San Diego?

I'd really like to hear how this hybrid fruit compares to the parents.

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I forgot to update earlier, the Cherry of the Rio Grande is sold.

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I’m impressed.  That black star is awesome.  How much pruning did you have to do to keep it looking like that. Every uniflora I grow wants to be a bush.

Definitely took some pruning, but I did it a little bit at a time -- every time it put out 6 inches of growth on a lower branch, I'd trim it off. Lately it has stopped putting out lower branches.

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Those look great! How old are they?

I was trying to remember that exact thing the other day. I think I grafted the Surinam Cherry in 2016 and the Cherry of the Rio Grande in 2017.

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The time has come for me to start clearing out extra trees.

I have two nice grafted Eugenias in #15 pots for sale, $150 each. Both are trees I grafted with good varieties, 6 feet tall, fruiting regularly for a few years now.

Local pickup in Orange County, CA.

Grafted Black Star Surinam Cherry (Eugenia uniflora)


SOLD: Grafted Ben's Beaut Cherry of the Rio Grande (Eugenia involucrata)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit party
« on: August 12, 2021, 12:46:10 AM »
One of our members the fruitkid had just returned from hawaii and brought them home.

Ah, nice!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit party
« on: August 12, 2021, 12:38:37 AM »
Wow, looks like a great event.  Sad to have missed it.

Where did someone get a Meli Kalima pineapple from?  I thought they were only grown in Hawaii by specific growers.

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Peach Cobbler seedings grow very well in my climate, and have fruits in 3 years. If fruits are not any special I will top and graft something on them.
Kent seedlings are more problematic -- disease and very slow at the first few years.

Have you found Peach Cobbler to be the best growing / most vigorous varieties from seed?

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Oscar, do you know what it takes to get E. latifolia to flower and fruit?  Me and others have had trees grown from seed from you for 6+ years and they're growing well but not flowering or fruiting.  Thanks!
Don't know. But would guess it's climate related. Even here they flower a lot, but few of the flowers set fruit. I think it might be too rainy for their liking here. They come from NE India and Thailand where they go through monsoon climate with extreme dry and extreme wet.

Sounds good.  I guess we'll have to figure out how to trick them into fruiting, maybe by simulating their native climate.

Barath, the one I got from you fruits every year in the fall, they need a lot of water at least by southern California standards.

That's great!  I'm trying to remember -- did I give you the "Catherine's Find" Elaeagnus (the species is a mystery on that one) or Elaeagnus latifolia?

I think their fruits might look pretty similar.

I think I'll try what Oscar mentioned and try to trick it into thinking there's a monsoon season.

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Oscar, do you know what it takes to get E. latifolia to flower and fruit?  Me and others have had trees grown from seed from you for 6+ years and they're growing well but not flowering or fruiting.  Thanks!
Don't know. But would guess it's climate related. Even here they flower a lot, but few of the flowers set fruit. I think it might be too rainy for their liking here. They come from NE India and Thailand where they go through monsoon climate with extreme dry and extreme wet.

Sounds good.  I guess we'll have to figure out how to trick them into fruiting, maybe by simulating their native climate.

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Oscar, do you know what it takes to get E. latifolia to flower and fruit?  Me and others have had trees grown from seed from you for 6+ years and they're growing well but not flowering or fruiting.  Thanks!

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