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Re: Mango Pests, Diseases, and Nutritional Problems
« Reply #1050 on: April 15, 2018, 02:11:13 PM »
Foliar BBS and fruit BBS are completely different. For example, NDM readily gets foliar BBS, but I've never seen it on the fruit. Foliar BBS can generally be ignored.
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Re: Mango Pests, Diseases, and Nutritional Problems
« Reply #1051 on: April 15, 2018, 02:16:46 PM »
Thanks Alex and Har.  So I guess at this point I just need to wait to see if the fruit develops it too.  What are the odds my fruit would have BBS considering the tree has foliar BBS?

There’s no direct correlation. Sweet Tart can get both.

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« Reply #1052 on: April 15, 2018, 02:55:18 PM »
Thanks Alex & Cookie Monster.  I'm hoping my trees stay safe from the fruit BBS.  There's no preventative measures that we know of at this point right (for fruit BBS)?

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Re: Mango Pests, Diseases, and Nutritional Problems
« Reply #1053 on: April 15, 2018, 04:57:33 PM »
Thanks Alex & Cookie Monster.  I'm hoping my trees stay safe from the fruit BBS.  There's no preventative measures that we know of at this point right (for fruit BBS)?

Lots of copper. Practicing Good orchard sanitation. Windbreaks.
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Re: Mango Pests, Diseases, and Nutritional Problems
« Reply #1054 on: April 15, 2018, 11:04:23 PM »
Foliar BBS and fruit BBS are completely different. For example, NDM readily gets foliar BBS, but I've never seen it on the fruit. Foliar BBS can generally be ignored.

Does it spread to other trees easily?  I have 1 tree that has it in the leaves.  Tree is still in a 5gal pot.  Not sure what to do with it?  I could probably strip all leaves and it would come back ok.  Its in a greenhouse and all the mango trees in there are growing nicely.  Just dont want to infect the rest of them.  It sucks they are shipping this from FL to CA
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Re: Mango Pests, Diseases, and Nutritional Problems
« Reply #1055 on: April 16, 2018, 06:24:47 AM »
Was it shipped through the mail?
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Re: Mango Pests, Diseases, and Nutritional Problems
« Reply #1056 on: April 16, 2018, 06:33:28 AM »
At Palm Beach County Rare Fruit Council plant sales, I have been head plant inspector for years.  I have cut off any leaves or twigs that I believed to have Mango Bacterial Black Spot, on lightly infested plants.  Otherwise, I have rejected plants from the sale.  I have been regarded as overly picky.
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Re: Mango Pests, Diseases, and Nutritional Problems
« Reply #1057 on: April 16, 2018, 07:06:45 AM »
Does it spread to other trees easily?  I have 1 tree that has it in the leaves.  Tree is still in a 5gal pot.  Not sure what to do with it?

I'd treat it with a systemic copper.  Phyton 35 (expensive) or Magnabon CS2005. 

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Re: Mango Pests, Diseases, and Nutritional Problems
« Reply #1058 on: May 13, 2018, 08:05:25 PM »
This mango fell from my Hatcher. I can see fine splits in the rot spot. What dreaded disease is this?


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Re: Mango Pests, Diseases, and Nutritional Problems
« Reply #1059 on: May 13, 2018, 10:29:33 PM »
This mango fell from my Hatcher. I can see fine splits in the rot spot. What dreaded disease is this?


Neofusicoccum or Phomopsis rot. You will probably lose most of the fruit to it.

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Re: Mango Pests, Diseases, and Nutritional Problems
« Reply #1060 on: May 23, 2018, 09:38:22 AM »
Does anyone know if deer will eat mango trees?  There's certain plants like pepper trees, eucalyptus, and other things with latex sap they won't touch here.  Apparently they dont eat strawberry guavas also.  So just wondering if they might leave mangos alone since they are kind of strong smelling and sappy.  Would make planting them easier if they didn't need a fence.
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Re: Mango Pests, Diseases, and Nutritional Problems
« Reply #1061 on: June 09, 2018, 01:59:57 PM »
Can anyone identify the problem with my Mahachanok tree? New flushes are looking yellow and brown spots on new leaves.


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Re: Mango Pests, Diseases, and Nutritional Problems
« Reply #1062 on: June 09, 2018, 05:55:03 PM »
FreshOne,

Your MahaChanok looks deficient in Copper and Zinc and Potassium.
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Re: Mango Pests, Diseases, and Nutritional Problems
« Reply #1063 on: June 09, 2018, 08:50:53 PM »
BBS - I assume this can be transmitted through budwood / grafting.
Is there something that can be done if you are not sure if your scions are from infected trees?
Is there a best practice that will reduce the chances of passing disease along?
I want to increase my collection but don't want to introduce disease.

Big picture here, are there things as a community we should all be doing. 

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Re: Mango Pests, Diseases, and Nutritional Problems
« Reply #1064 on: June 10, 2018, 12:45:56 AM »
FreshOne,

Your MahaChanok looks deficient in Copper and Zinc and Potassium.


Thanks, this tree is in a container. I'll give it some sul-mag-po and see how it response.

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Re: Mango Pests, Diseases, and Nutritional Problems
« Reply #1065 on: June 10, 2018, 10:34:19 AM »
If you are trying to be all "organic", use seaweed in all your waterings and sprays.  This will provide some Copper and Zinc, etc.  Some kinds of rock dusts would also help.  Some chelated products and some complexed products are also labeled for use in organic production.

I don't see any indication of Mango Bacterial Black Spot (MBBS). 
[Bacterial black spots on other plants are usually other species of bacteria, which tend to be host specific, so we should not leave off the word "mango" in the name.]
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Re: Mango Pests, Diseases, and Nutritional Problems
« Reply #1066 on: June 10, 2018, 07:38:10 PM »
What's wrong with my buddies tree?


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Re: Mango Pests, Diseases, and Nutritional Problems
« Reply #1067 on: June 10, 2018, 08:16:57 PM »
Looks like a Keitt? I see what appears to be MBBS on the mango in the background.

What's wrong with my buddies tree?

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Re: Mango Pests, Diseases, and Nutritional Problems
« Reply #1068 on: June 10, 2018, 09:52:07 PM »
Leaves are messed up on the edges

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Re: Mango Pests, Diseases, and Nutritional Problems
« Reply #1069 on: June 10, 2018, 10:45:56 PM »
Bugs are eating the leaves
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Re: Mango Pests, Diseases, and Nutritional Problems
« Reply #1070 on: June 10, 2018, 11:49:09 PM »
Maybe old powdery mildew damage, but that is usually not that white.
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Re: Mango Pests, Diseases, and Nutritional Problems
« Reply #1071 on: June 11, 2018, 09:12:06 PM »
While out in the yard today I noticed a brown spot on the trunk of one of my Pickering trees. It's not got sap coming out, it's just a dry wound. I noticed the same thing on the trunks of some of my seedling carambola trees as well.

The Pickering is in a 7-gallon pot. We've had heavy rains recently and now it's been hot and full sun and humid, if that gives any help determining what might be going on.

Any clue as to what's caused this? And if so, what to do about it? It's one of my favorite trees and I don't want to lose it.




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Re: Mango Pests, Diseases, and Nutritional Problems
« Reply #1072 on: June 12, 2018, 08:26:18 PM »
Perhaps a child has gone around whacking the trunks with a stick or an umbrella tip?
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Re: Mango Pests, Diseases, and Nutritional Problems
« Reply #1073 on: June 12, 2018, 08:41:20 PM »
While out in the yard today I noticed a brown spot on the trunk of one of my Pickering trees. It's not got sap coming out, it's just a dry wound. I noticed the same thing on the trunks of some of my seedling carambola trees as well.

The Pickering is in a 7-gallon pot. We've had heavy rains recently and now it's been hot and full sun and humid, if that gives any help determining what might be going on.

Any clue as to what's caused this? And if so, what to do about it? It's one of my favorite trees and I don't want to lose it.




That looks fatal and contagious. I think you should cut them all down and burn them.

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« Reply #1074 on: June 12, 2018, 09:08:53 PM »
HA! My hope is it's nothing--maybe a rodent bite?

My fear comes from having an in-ground peach tree trunk chewed up good by a rabbit and the tree ultimately died, and also a Maha Chanok tree that started with a spot of flaky bark and it ended up looking like this:




Thanks!