I don't even grow the red ones as the black are so much better. The black go through a red phase but yet unripe but to me it tastes like the ripe red. The black continue to get better from there.
They are considered an invasive in Florida, almost every seed will come up. They are that easy to grow.
My workload for the plant is gather, eat. Throw seeds places they won't come up so I won''t have to pull them back up later. Tp plant, kick small hole where you want it, drop seed,cover.
I did break down and cut it back so the fruit were closer to me. There was a hedge in my hometown that was over fifty years old. New buyers took it out and put in something no one notices.