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Tropical Fruit Discussion / What is your favorite tropical cherry?
« on: January 04, 2018, 04:56:07 PM »
I have three locations for cherry trees. I have a lolita surinam that I love.

Some that I have considered include cherry of the rio grande, barbados, pitomba, and grumichama.

Can anyone comment on the taste and production, and where you are growing them? I'm in San Diego (10a)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fig vs Loquat, which deserves the sunny spot in my yard?
« on: January 02, 2018, 09:54:56 PM »
Quote from: zands on January 02, 2018, 07:46:55 PM
Quote from: ExpertPruning.com on January 02, 2018, 04:25:16 PM
I'm in San Diego, 5 miles inland. I'm in zone 10a
I would grow fig. You have the dry weather they like and that concentrates their sweetness and flavor.
Loquat is also good but only if its a variety with high flesh to seed ratio and is a prime variety in other respects. For loquat I  would visit a Chinese or Asian owned nursery. They might have some excellent varieties from Taiwan China etc.

I've heard that fig trees do not fruit as heavily when planted in the ground. Something about their roots being restricted in a pot triggers their fruiting. Is this true? And given that, should that sway me towards loquat?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fig vs Loquat, which deserves the sunny spot in my yard?
« on: January 02, 2018, 04:25:16 PM »
Quote from: zands on January 02, 2018, 02:24:10 PM
Quote from: ExpertPruning.com on December 29, 2017, 09:04:33 PM
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Do you plan on saying thanks to those who have given you advice?
I would say something about fig vs loquat but have no idea where the f you are in California which has a million different climates. I see that all people replying to you have their locations listed.

I'm in San Diego, 5 miles inland. I'm in zone 10a

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What are productive mango varieties for San Diego?
« on: December 29, 2017, 09:37:54 PM »
Quote from: wslau on December 29, 2017, 09:05:48 PM
Alphonso flowers but it has a difficult time holding fruit to maturity in SoCal.  From
my observation, you will be lucky to get 5 mature fruit on a 6 foot tall tree.
Alphonso is highly complex in flavor...many love that Indian piney flavor.
 
Ataulfo (common supermarket fruit) is not complex in flavor, hence it isn't highly prized by us mango snobs.  It has a short window where it is ideal sweet and tart (right when it develops wrinkles).  Otherwise it is too sour (green or yellow but unwrinkled) or just pure sweetness only (yellow and overly-wrinkled).

So would you reccomend grafting something new onto the alphonso tree? The tree has already been grafted at the base. Is it bad to regraft?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Fig vs Loquat, which deserves the sunny spot in my yard?
« on: December 29, 2017, 09:04:33 PM »
I have a spot in my yard, on a slope, with 8+ hours of full sun.

I have narrowed my choice of fruit tree between the fig and the loquat.

The question is: which tree deserves the spot?

I am totally split, so I will let the compelling arguments of forum members determine which tree takes the spot.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What Sapote should I add to my yard in San Diego? (Zone 10a)
« on: December 29, 2017, 08:52:58 PM »
Quote from: buddy roo on December 29, 2017, 11:46:26 AM
I would start with any white sapote seed NOW planted in the ground where you want it to grow, you can multi-graft as many as you want this summer, the white sapote grows a very large tap root and will grow a lot faster /better if done this way."from my experience"                        Regards     Patrick

I have heard that the white sapote is notorious for growing super fast. I actually don't have a ton of room in my yard, and if I can find a tree which doesn't grow as quickly, it would actually be preferable. What do you think? I do like the idea of a multi-grafted tree.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What fruits grow well in partial shade? (zone 10a)
« on: December 29, 2017, 08:48:28 PM »
Quote from: spaugh on December 29, 2017, 10:35:24 AM
Cherry of rio grande, coffee

I have heard of the cherry of the rio grande. Is it tasty? I've planted a surinam cherry and absolutely love the spicy taste.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What fruits grow well in partial shade? (zone 10a)
« on: December 29, 2017, 08:42:38 PM »
Quote from: Delvi83 on December 29, 2017, 06:40:50 AM
A. cherimoya, Coffea arabica...

Cherimoya can grow in shade? I was under the impression they required as much sun as possible to develop the sugar.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What fruits grow well in partial shade? (zone 10a)
« on: December 29, 2017, 08:41:36 PM »
Quote from: WaterFowler on December 29, 2017, 01:00:10 PM
My white sapotes in partial shade and in full shade seem to grow better than the ones in full sun.

Interesting. Do you know what varieties they are?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What are productive mango varieties for San Diego?
« on: December 29, 2017, 08:36:39 PM »
Quote from: wslau on December 28, 2017, 10:49:31 PM
Alphonso is not productive in SoCal, but an extremely tasty fruit when you can get one.
The best production I have seen so far is Sweet Tart (#1 rated flavor in SoCal amongst my friends) and Maha Chanok.
Coconut Cream and Lemon Zest haven't been extremely productive either in SoCal, for the most part, but are excellent tasting varieties.  Coconut Cream branches are brittle and break easily with stronger wind.  Lemon Zest is extremely susceptible to powdery mildew and needs to be sprayed with fungicide to produce.

So...Sweet Tart would be my pick for the 3rd tree.
We are experimenting with Kesar as a replacement for Alphonso, but don't have enough SoCal data yet.
Ataulfo is not highly prized, but makes an excellent rootstock...if you are into topworking and grafting.

Sounds like I might have to buy sweet tart on that sparkling recommendation!

When you say that Alphonso is not productive, how unproductive are we talking? I'm seeing some flowers sprouting currently on the tree...

As for the Autalfo, when you say that its not highly prized, is it that its too common of a mango, or that it doesn't taste very good? I figured I may turn that one into rootstock anyways, since it seems to be a seedling.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What is the best Atemoya tree to plant in San Diego (zone 10a)?
« on: December 29, 2017, 08:19:51 PM »
Quote from: JF on December 29, 2017, 03:41:30 PM
La Habra Blanc is the best atemoya this year.





WOW that looks absolutely stunning!

When you say that Le Habra Blanc is the best atemoya of the year, could you explain this? Do some varieties taste better certain years? How is the taste of your LHB atemoya? Is the tree productive? I have very little room left, so I really want something that can produce.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / What is the best Atemoya tree to plant in San Diego (zone 10a)?
« on: December 29, 2017, 03:27:50 PM »
I have an el bumpo and chaffey cherimoya. I havent tried an atemoya, but I've heard they are quite delicious and would like to add one to the yard.

What is the best tasting variety? What is the best producing variety? Which tree should I ultimately be planting with these two considerations in mind?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / What fruits grow well in partial shade? (zone 10a)
« on: December 28, 2017, 10:46:43 PM »
I have a spot in my San Diego yard that gets morning sun and afternoon shade.

What fruit tree should I grow in this spot?

I currently have a pineapple guava, pomegranate, guava, and surinam cherry in shade locations.

What should I add? Will Acerola fruit good fruit in partial shade for example?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / What Sapote should I add to my yard in San Diego? (Zone 10a)
« on: December 28, 2017, 10:39:44 PM »
I currently have a bruce canistel and mamey sapote. I have one spot left in the yard for a sapote tree.

In San Diego, what variety of sapote would you suggest growing?

I was thinking of perhaps planting a suebelle white sapote because of how productive it is and its drought tolerance.

Do you have any other sapote trees, or particular varities which are especially productive and delicious?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / What are productive mango varieties for San Diego?
« on: December 28, 2017, 10:21:29 PM »
I planted an Alphonso and Ataulfo mango tree several months back. They have been doing very well, growing exceptionally (though no fruit considering I missed the season when planting).

I have one spot left in my yard for a mango tree.

What are some good tasting and productive varieties for the san diego climate?

I havent tasted any of the varieties, but I've been interested by Nam Dac Mai or coconut cream. Does anyone in southern california have experience growing a successful variety of tasty mango?

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Citrus General Discussion / Can you overmulch citrus in San Diego?
« on: December 15, 2017, 06:13:22 AM »
I have loads of woodchips ready to go, I just don't know if I can overdo the mulching.

How much is too much mulch?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Overmulching?
« on: December 15, 2017, 03:46:25 AM »
I am in San Diego, and I have planted peach, cherimoya, mamey sapote, canistel, mango, avocado, guava, citrus.

I have been looking for a big mulch drop for months. I walk outside today and see that all of the trees on my street are being uprooted and replaced.

They have the wood chipper on site, and are feeding whole trees into it, leaving behind those beautiful mulch nuggets.

I asked and was able to secure a large load of mulch and spent the day applying it to my trees. I now have at least 3 inches covering every speck of dirt in my yard.

Is it too much? The guy says theyre going to have another truckload ready tomorrow if i want it. I would add it, but is there any risk of 'overmulching' my trees?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: when is a dragonfruit ready to come off the plant?
« on: November 27, 2017, 09:16:54 PM »
it's completely red, other than the little strands (not sure what to call them) hanging off the fruit, which are green. I think that's alright tho.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: when is a dragonfruit ready to come off the plant?
« on: November 27, 2017, 08:35:31 PM »
I don't know the variety beyond "red dragonfruit" sold at home depot.

The Growth on the cactus is more 'fat' than my white variety.

What feel should I be looking for? I enjoy a crispy dragonfruit.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / when is a dragonfruit ready to come off the plant?
« on: November 27, 2017, 03:38:44 PM »
It has turned a dark, rich red and is quite large. How do I know when to pluck it?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Does Mamey Sapote fruit anywhere in Southern California
« on: November 21, 2017, 02:21:23 AM »
I have a 'Pace' Mamey I planted on a hillside in Carlsbad, California. Supposedly this variety is more cold hardy.

Does anyone have first hand experience, seeing or trying a mamey grown in california?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Does anyone know about the Australian Finger Lime Tree?
« on: November 08, 2017, 02:02:14 AM »
Does anyone know about this tree?

I;ve only been able to find one variety, the nursery owner said other varieties are not allowed outside of Australia.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Are other varieties of finger lime trees illegal in California?
« on: November 07, 2017, 12:10:32 AM »
I recently saw a green finger lime tree at home depot. I called up a local nursery to see what varieties they have (I noticed theres tons of crazy colors).

He told me that standard green variety of finger lime is the only variety legally allowed outside of Australia.

Does anyone know what the situation is? I would love to get pink, red, and other cool varieties if its possible!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is cherimoya better than atemoya?
« on: October 25, 2017, 03:44:55 PM »
I have two cherimoyas in the ground, an el bumpo and a chaffey. I guess I could graft atemoya onto one of the trees. What are the best varieties of atemoya in your opinion?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Is cherimoya better than atemoya?
« on: October 25, 2017, 04:43:51 AM »
I've only had cherimoya. I can't find atemoya anywhere.

For those who have tried both cherimoya and atemoya, which is better? Which would you rather have planted in your backyard?

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