Greenhouse, RootMaker pots for tropicals and fruit "porn"

[Mark in Texas]

Here's a Sugar Loaf, big mess of pups.  Notice the 2 little pups shooting off the fruit too!  I think I'll stick to store bought DelMonte twistees.  They put off excellent fruit a year or so ahead of the white ones. 

[Orkine]

My experience is similar to yours.  Mine do fruit but the fruit stay small and the plant throws all kinds of pups.
Were I in the pup selling business, it will the the goose that laid the golden egg.
But I want to eat some pineapples.

[Mark in Texas]

My experience is similar to yours.  Mine do fruit but the fruit stay small and the plant throws all kinds of pups.
Were I in the pup selling business, it will the the goose that laid the golden egg.
But I want to eat some pineapples.

I get some pretty big ones off twistees.  So I have to core, big deal.  They are sweet, smell rich, just great.

[spaugh]

Where did you guys get the WJ plants?  The tissue culture plants ts seem to be much weaker growers and make more pups than plants started from offsets. 

They can make big pineapples, I've got one outside that's bigger than any store fruit I've ever seen.  Will snap a pic later today. 

[spaugh]

White jade (looks same as kauai sugar loaf to me) in 7gal pot.

I noticed your SL leaves are serrated too Mark, the white ones have smooth leaves that turn red. 

[Mark in Texas]

Thanks Brad. I got Sugarloaf from a friend, pups.  White Jade came from Wellsprings Gardens.  Looks like I just got dogs.  One of them fruited in winter.  Gold color, taste was awful.

Yeah, leaves are serrated.  So they're supposed to be smooth?

[spaugh]

Supposed to be smooth.  The tissue culture plants grow like crap too so compost those.  I'll send you a couple good pups later in summer if you want the WJ like in my pic

[mbmango]

Interesting about the TC plants.  Once they're old enough, will the future pups still be crap?  I also got a Sugarloaf and WJ from Wellspring 5 years ago.  The Sugarloaf gave a small fruit last year, and the WJ is filling in one this year.  Curious if all the pups will similarly be slugs, or whether I'm over the hump, so to speak.

[spaugh]

The pups also seem weak on the white jades.  Some other types seem to make stronger pups.  But I havent grown enough generations to know if they eventually get better.  I think so but sounds like it would take a very long time if you are just getting 1 fruit after 5 years. 

You can just see the pups are weak, they are all thin and skimpy.  Real clones look way stronger and the plants and pups get about 2X the size. 

I have no idea why but have grown many TCs and regular copies and it's the same with all the TC plants.

[mbmango]

Ah!  I thought I just sucked at the husbandry, but it must be the tissue culture heritage!  They survived the early days of ignorance and neglect, so I try not to fault them for my efforts.  But if I can't get the pups, and especially the sugarloaf ratoon to speed up now, then I may have to consider some more adoptions.

[Mark in Texas]

Supposed to be smooth.  The tissue culture plants grow like crap too so compost those.  I'll send you a couple good pups later in summer if you want the WJ like in my pic

Hell ya, will reimburse ya.  I think I'm going to dump all of them.

Thanks

[Mark in Texas]

Greenhouse jungle north of Fredericksburg - citrus, avocado, cherimoya, Atis sugar apple, pineapples, mangos, herbs, maters, etc.  Sharwil, Reed, and Ardith are 10' plus. 





Mango season is on, so are the Reeds.  Glenn, Lemon Zest, Orange Sherbet, Pickering are over the top.  Pineapple Pleasure and more to come.  I had forgotten how much LZ tastes like a real lemon, without the tartness!



3 Jan Boyce grafts are pushing.  Grasshoppers are epidemic stripping everything.  Clemson fruit bags are protecting the JB growth.

[z_willus_d]

Everything is looking great Mark!  When you bag your fruit in those protective bags, do you ever have problems with early molding or decay on the fruit?  I tried using the bags on peaches, apples, etc. and the lack of airflow seems to doom them.  Doomed if you do, doomed if you don't situation.

[SeaWalnut]

Everything is looking great Mark!  When you bag your fruit in those protective bags, do you ever have problems with early molding or decay on the fruit?  I tried using the bags on peaches, apples, etc. and the lack of airflow seems to doom them.  Doomed if you do, doomed if you don't situation.

He bagged the graft not the fruit.

[Mark in Texas]

Yep, never bagged fruit but these should work well.  They are designed for that.

[spaugh]

Lookin good Mark.  We had the little green grasshoppers everywhere a few weeks ago.  Had one little potted tree witb hundreds on it. 

[Mark in Texas]

Lookin good Mark.  We had the little green grasshoppers everywhere a few weeks ago.  Had one little potted tree witb hundreds on it.

We have them of all colors and sizes.  The yellow ones are big and hungry.  I have trees and bushes with 1,000's on them. No leaves.

[z_willus_d]

Everything is looking great Mark!  When you bag your fruit in those protective bags, do you ever have problems with early molding or decay on the fruit?  I tried using the bags on peaches, apples, etc. and the lack of airflow seems to doom them.  Doomed if you do, doomed if you don't situation.

He bagged the graft not the fruit.

Oh, I missed that.  Thanks.

[Mark in Texas]

Mango season continues for us. This 2# Pickering is over the top - very rich, tastes like coconut, super sweet, no fiber or jelly.  This is every bit as rich and delish as the best Zill hybrids including the Orange Sherbet and Lemon Zest I'm fruiting.  Like all mango varieties it's got a different taste profile.  Texture is excellent. 

Huge Pineapple Pleasure are next, and Juicy Peach, etc.



Jan Boyce graft on Sharwil branch is pushing well.



Reeds are very rich, the best creamy flavor since I grafted the tree in 2012.  No question about it, a tree needs a few years before the fruit quality really ramps up.

[Mark in Texas]

Gave away a 3 gal. pot of White Sugarloaf.   Lady got 17 pups and the mother out of it.  This one has been a real POS for me with no fruit, just throws pups.  Best ones I raised were store bought "twistees".  They are delish.

[Francis_Eric]

I got ta Say Always Liked your posts on this,
 and always liked that you mention the prices as well no need to go browsing the internet .


I always wanted to ask , I've seen you've lost some mango's above the graft line
 when you where hit with a hard freeze I was always wondering
why you didn't grow polyembryony seed (of mango I read you grow )
So it was a clone of the Mother or did you also do that too?

I hated to see those things killed down to the graft when I did
you seem really knowledgeable so I always wondered that.

[Mark in Texas]

I got ta Say Always Liked your posts on this,
 and always liked that you mention the prices as well no need to go browsing the internet .


I always wanted to ask , I've seen you've lost some mango's above the graft line
 when you where hit with a hard freeze I was always wondering
why you didn't grow polyembryony seed (of mango I read you grow )
So it was a clone of the Mother or did you also do that too?

I hated to see those things killed down to the graft when I did
you seem really knowledgeable so I always wondered that.

Only one out of about 4 survived the 18F, lost them roots and all.  I have P.P., Juicy Peach and Orange Sherbet on it.  All my mangos came from Pine Island Nursery.  Why?  Got them wholesale, FedX charges were fair shipped 2 to a box, ready to rock rather than waiting for a seed to do its thing.

[Francis_Eric]

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[Mark in Texas]

First Juicy Peach.  Large fruit, haven't tried it yet. Still working on a crisper full.

[z_willus_d]

Looks like a winner.  Wishing a delicious treat with that one.