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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #825 on: May 11, 2015, 01:00:11 PM »
Maybe someone will persuade our N. Caledonian friend Vincent "Vitiga" to help us... 8) :)
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #826 on: May 11, 2015, 11:53:33 PM »
Maybe someone will persuade our N. Caledonian friend Vincent "Vitiga" to help us... 8) :)

I don't know if i can persuade him, if he has access, or how difficult it is to get them.....but i will try as those are some neat looking plants!
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #827 on: May 12, 2015, 07:12:26 AM »
and one of the most primitive (and beautiful ) tree of N.Caledonia

https://www.google.co.kr/search?q=ixora+margaretae&newwindow=1&biw=1920&bih=951&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=ft5RVbD5JYzc8AWfj4HABQ&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ

Sorry Adam,didn't want to spoil your topic  ;) but this one is gorgious

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #828 on: May 12, 2015, 07:19:08 AM »
I don't know if i can persuade him, if he has access, or how difficult it is to get them.....but i will try as those are some neat looking plants!

So there is still hope. :)
I've been reading about the fruits listed on the link that Alex posted, and saw that there are many caulifloras there. A great find.

and one of the most primitive (and beautiful ) tree of N.Caledonia

https://www.google.co.kr/search?q=ixora+margaretae&newwindow=1&biw=1920&bih=951&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=ft5RVbD5JYzc8AWfj4HABQ&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ

Sorry Adam,didn't want to spoil your topic  ;) but this one is gorgious

Uau! That Ixora is a beauty!!!
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #830 on: May 12, 2015, 03:08:48 PM »
Love those leaves wow:)
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #831 on: May 12, 2015, 06:05:19 PM »
Dear Friends,

I am in Vanuatu at the moment and internet is really bad here. We are lost in the middle of no where…lol I will be back home in New Caledonia this coming week end and I will take some time to write and post a brief report about new caledonian endemic fruit species as many of you emailed me to get info and seeds. Briefly I would say that we have many very interesting and kind of unique fruit species in New Caledonia including some that have not been discovered yet for sure, they look quite spectacular for some of them, but fruits are not really good and tasty in general… except may be for a couple of them. The main problem is that most species/areas/biotops are locally protected now and it is then complicate to get access to some of them in the wild. The positive point is that due to the mining industry, and their impact on the biotops, many local nurseries are now into multiplying and saving endemic flora including many of those fruit species. So I can get access to some of them just visiting a couple of specialized nurseries I know pretty well. More infos this week end. All the best, Vincent.
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #832 on: May 12, 2015, 06:23:46 PM »
Vitiga

thanks for the honest and informative post!

I hope you find some really great seeds to distribute to forum members soon!

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #833 on: May 13, 2015, 12:01:48 AM »
Vitiga,
many thanks for responce.  We are very interested in any info about local nurseries involved into multiplying and saving endemic flora. It would be good if you will connect to this too.  ;) :)
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #834 on: May 23, 2015, 06:36:25 AM »
Thought all the jaboticabaholics out there would like this photo:

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #835 on: May 23, 2015, 07:43:15 AM »
Nice one, very spectacular crop.

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #836 on: May 23, 2015, 09:37:44 AM »
Lol looks like the tree turns into a giant Pakistan mulberry!!
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #837 on: May 23, 2015, 11:21:32 AM »
Holy Jabo's!!! nice pic talk about productivity :o 8)

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #838 on: May 23, 2015, 05:37:41 PM »
Lol looks like the tree turns into a giant Pakistan mulberry!!

Too bad your contest wasn't about most productive jaboticabe tree.  ;)
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #839 on: May 23, 2015, 08:08:01 PM »
Lol looks like the tree turns into a giant Pakistan mulberry!!

Too bad your contest wasn't about most productive jaboticabe tree;)

lol that is just a contest of everyday life!

you are a winner for sure!
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #840 on: May 24, 2015, 02:36:49 AM »
Lol looks like the tree turns into a giant Pakistan mulberry!!

Too bad your contest wasn't about most productive jaboticabe tree;)

lol that is just a contest of everyday life!

you are a winner for sure!

Unfortunately that's not my jabo tree.  :'(
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #841 on: May 24, 2015, 02:44:44 AM »
lol...

well at least you got a cambuca tree that bears like crazy!

 (even if it's not every year)

that's enough to make any rare fruit collector happy!!!

Lol looks like the tree turns into a giant Pakistan mulberry!!

Too bad your contest wasn't about most productive jaboticabe tree;)

lol that is just a contest of everyday life!

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Unfortunately that's not my jabo tree.  :'(
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #842 on: May 24, 2015, 03:39:11 AM »
lol...

well at least you got a cambuca tree that bears like crazy!

 (even if it's not every year)

that's enough to make any rare fruit collector happy!!!



That year i wasn't happy...i was delirious.  ;)  I've been trying to coax that cambuca to give another repeat performance this year by feeding it my choicest ferts.
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #843 on: May 24, 2015, 07:56:27 PM »
Thought all the jaboticabaholics out there would like this photo:

I thought all jaboticabas were overbearing, but that's taking it a step further.  :)

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #844 on: May 30, 2015, 09:10:23 PM »
Here is one of the weird looking Myrciarias that sprouted...I thought at first it could be a deficiency or too much of a certain micro-nutrient... but i've noticed the leaves are like none other I've seen...I keep waiting for the plant to grow out of it...maybe the leaf type will change?

For now it makes very small, slender, leaves...with a bit of fuzz on them...which is somewhat unusual.

I'm beginning to suspect that its a seedling of the hybrid (red jaboticaba)...after planting thousands of them, I'm realizing they have more variation than I thought...but you really have to plant thousands to notice.

Next I have to post some pics of the strange trunciflora seedling that sprouted...it's definitely unusual.  Looks like a perfect cross between M. trunciflora and the Red jabo, (M. cauliflora hybrid).  I will post pics of all three trees to show what I'm talking about.


I have got some jabos that I need to post pics of...

I have some peculiar seedlings that popped up...I can't identify them...so it's exciting for now...that is, until the leaves revert back to normal, and I realize what they are!  or maybe I'm lucky...and have a new variety...I think it will be a little of both.

I also have a grafted tree (scions taken from my friends tree) that I can't identify....it reminds me somewhat of truciflora, but the leaves are fuzzy when young...and fuzzy on the undersides when mature...also, I've seen the mother tree flower, and they don't hang from stalks...so it can't be a variety of trunciflora.

I will try to post pics by sunday




Ok...here is a short story...with some pictures, of a strange jaboticaba seedling

as you can see in the post above, about 2-3yrs ago I planted a bunch of red jaboticaba seeds, and one of the seeds came up looking very strange, with a compact growth habit, and unique foliage appearance...having small lance shaped leaves...at least 3 x smaller than usual for Red jabo.

well..i took care of that seedling, hoping I would have a new variety...but it's growth was stunted...and it refused to grow at a normal pace...the seedling never did decline, but eventually it started to grow an extremely vigorous sucker from the base....being that it was the only real growth i had seen, I did not stop the sucker from growing....

it turned out that the sucker put out normal foliage, and the original, small strange looking seedling remained....stunted, and peculiar looking...now at least 5x smaller than the normal looking sucker that outgrew it.

so....i thought to myself...maybe this is a sport? I'll try to graft it, and see if it keeps the strange foliage, and growth habit!

here is the result of my experiment so far:







(it's hard to tell at this stage, but looks like it will keep its strange characteristics!  and has started to grow vigorously now that it's on sabara roots!)

i'm wondering if this branch was just diseased by a virus? or something that made it grow deformed leaves??  i think I've seen this happen before??  but very rarely...

let's see if this is something special, and if I can capture the magic!  ;D



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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #845 on: May 31, 2015, 08:37:14 PM »
Adam, it's funny that you posted about the small leafed red jabo because out of all those seeds I got from you I have one seedling that has smaller leaves they all the rest too! :o
small leaved seedling.


regular leaved red jabo from same seed batch.


another pic of small leaved red jabo, always thought that there was something wrong with this guy but same soil and same care as other, now I think I'll just let it grow see if it has small fruits too, could be excellent Bonzai material! ::)

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #846 on: May 31, 2015, 09:01:56 PM »
Very cool!!

Looks a lot like the one I have!

Let me know if the leaves stay small!
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« Reply #847 on: May 31, 2015, 11:31:00 PM »
One of my jabos has two trunks. I wonder if these are two seedlings and I should (could) separate them? Or they would be alright growing together?

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #848 on: June 01, 2015, 10:40:57 AM »
Here is the pic.


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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #849 on: June 01, 2015, 10:51:13 AM »
the seeds are polyembronic.

you can definitely separate the seedlings...

but I would just leave them...you may lose one at this point trying to pull them apart.

also, I've seen many double trunked jaboticabas turn into a single trunk over time...not sure if yours is going to do this, but it does happen.
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