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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #1025 on: October 03, 2015, 04:37:27 AM »
I do not know what species, but I know are coming from Taiwan.
Common hybrid (red jabuticaba), here the number has more than five hundred thousand seedlings or more.

But still it has sabara most common.










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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #1026 on: October 03, 2015, 08:59:40 AM »
Is it common to find the fruit (in the Market?) ?? When do they ripe in South China or Taiwan?

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #1027 on: October 03, 2015, 12:28:09 PM »
I do not know what species, but I know are coming from Taiwan.
Common hybrid (red jabuticaba), here the number has more than five hundred thousand seedlings or more.

But still it has sabara most common.












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I am doing big efforts to grow just 2 or 3 red jabos, and you grow 500.000.... give me some ;)

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #1028 on: October 04, 2015, 04:20:03 PM »
Is this a difficult tree to grow?? It seems easier than others..

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #1029 on: October 04, 2015, 04:28:19 PM »
Is this a difficult tree to grow?? It seems easier than others..

easy to grow if:

-you can keep pH acid or slightly acid....alkalinity can be problematic for many species....causing them to turn yellow, having Fe deficiency, and stunted growth, and eventual death.

-and if you can keep temperature above 25-30F (some species can handle lower temps briefly, but some species can succumb to temps of about 30F)

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« Reply #1030 on: October 05, 2015, 09:05:04 AM »
Thanks....i saw your photo and your tree seem perfect even if not in the ground !!!

How long does it take to bear fruits? (from seed)

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #1031 on: November 06, 2015, 02:13:27 PM »
Thanks....i saw your photo and your tree seem perfect even if not in the ground !!!

How long does it take to bear fruits? (from seed)

The fastest to fruit is  about 2.5yr,

Yellow jaboticaba can fruit quick too, in about 3yr

There are many precocious species and varieties
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« Reply #1032 on: November 06, 2015, 03:58:01 PM »
I'm very keen on getting some red jaboticaba seeds or plants .. can anyone help me out. I'm in Australia.  Also what are the distinguishing features of the red fruit.. ie is it sweeter.. bigger than sabara

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #1033 on: November 06, 2015, 04:55:53 PM »
I'm very keen on getting some red jaboticaba seeds or plants .. can anyone help me out. I'm in Australia.  Also what are the distinguishing features of the red fruit.. ie is it sweeter.. bigger than sabara

Daleys in Kyogle or Forbidden Fruits at Mullumbimby should have plants.

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #1034 on: November 06, 2015, 04:58:27 PM »
Thanks waterfall I had a look at dales a while ago and they had smallleaf large lleave and grafted but not red

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #1035 on: November 09, 2015, 01:38:20 AM »
Thanks waterfall I had a look at dales a while ago and they had smallleaf large lleave and grafted but not red

Wow, Daleys is diehard with the "large leaf" moniker.

What sucks for them, is the fact that there are over 20 varieties of myrciaria that have larger leaves than the Grimal (aka peluda de alagoas), which they keep calling large leaf (or big leaf)

Maybe they will call grandifolia "really big leaf"?

And phitrantha, "super large leaf"?
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #1036 on: November 09, 2015, 04:18:59 PM »



Speaking of giant leaves, this is the leaf of a white/aurena I recently grafted whit some giant foliage! So if we are gonna describe by leaf size we might be in trouble! lol
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #1037 on: November 09, 2015, 04:38:34 PM »



Speaking of giant leaves, this is the leaf of a white/aurena I recently grafted whit some giant foliage! So if we are gonna describe by leaf size we might be in trouble! lol

it's a shame, but most people still rely on Julia Morton's book from 1987 (Fruits of Warm Climates) for info about Jabuticaba.

unfortunately she only wrote about 4 species, and had most of the facts twisted.

for instance, she identifies the "White" (or Branca) Jaboticaba as a form of M. cauliflora (but it's M. aureana)....and of course the biggest misnomer of all, she calls "Sabara", M. cauliflora as well (but it's M. jaboticaba).

you have to give her credit though, because she did a good job with the resources she had avaialble...just think how hard it would be to compile all the info she presented, without the advent of the internet.

(btw, that "super puffy large leaf" jabo u grafted is looking good!!!)  ;D
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #1038 on: November 09, 2015, 07:42:42 PM »



Speaking of giant leaves, this is the leaf of a white/aurena I recently grafted whit some giant foliage! So if we are gonna describe by leaf size we might be in trouble! lol

it's a shame, but most people still rely on Julia Morton's book from 1987 (Fruits of Warm Climates) for info about Jabuticaba.

unfortunately she only wrote about 4 species, and had most of the facts twisted.

for instance, she identifies the "White" (or Branca) Jaboticaba as a form of M. cauliflora (but it's M. aureana)....and of course the biggest misnomer of all, she calls "Sabara", M. cauliflora as well (but it's M. jaboticaba).

you have to give her credit though, because she did a good job with the resources she had avaialble...just think how hard it would be to compile all the info she presented, without the advent of the internet.

(btw, that "super puffy large leaf" jabo u grafted is looking good!!!)  ;D

Yeah I imagine that it would be difficult to to much work at all without the internet. People had to travel, talk to locals, tramp through the jungle...

Thanks! I was really happy to see the scions pushing so much big leaf growth. Keep up the good work!
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #1039 on: November 10, 2015, 01:18:26 PM »
Hey Adam,

Do you have any idea what variety "Jacks" Jaboticaba is? http://www.cloudforest.com/cafe/forum/58740.html

The fruit are large, much like some of the Coronata pics I've seen.

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #1040 on: November 10, 2015, 01:57:39 PM »
Hey Adam,

Do you have any idea what variety "Jacks" Jaboticaba is? http://www.cloudforest.com/cafe/forum/58740.html

The fruit are large, much like some of the Coronata pics I've seen.

Simon

yes i posted about this before....it's the same as paul thompson's....

Myrciaria cualiflora var. Paulista
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« Reply #1041 on: November 11, 2015, 02:45:39 AM »
I have few red Jaboticaba, but the leaves of one plant are lighter in color as compared to others. May I know is there any problem and should I do anything about it? 




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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #1042 on: November 11, 2015, 07:35:31 AM »
the leaves on my red are a bit lighter than the leaves of the Sabara i have.
are those other plants also reds ?
i think they like the soil a bit on the acid side
they may have trouble taking up nutrients if it is too alkaline.

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #1043 on: November 12, 2015, 03:14:16 AM »
All three plants are red jaboticaba, with same soil mixture and city water.

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #1044 on: November 12, 2015, 10:30:04 AM »
All three plants are red jaboticaba, with same soil mixture and city water.

Looks like pH issue, but a minor issue...most likely due to city water.

First I would try giving it a little fertilizer...if you don't see an improvement in 20 days (new red leaves) try drenching with chelated Fe.   (But remember the iron must be chelated)

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #1045 on: November 15, 2015, 10:07:17 AM »
Hi everyone! Please, i nead help to identify this jaboticaba plant. Thank's!  :)


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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #1046 on: November 15, 2015, 10:56:00 AM »
Hi everyone! Please, i nead help to identify this jaboticaba plant. Thank's!  :)


it's hard to say for sure, but remind me of coronata.

you will know for sure in about 12-15 yrs... ;D
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« Reply #1047 on: November 15, 2015, 11:14:00 AM »
This is a plant that Miguel gave me 2 years ago... as a suposed red-hibrid jabotibaba.  :)

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« Reply #1048 on: November 15, 2015, 11:33:33 AM »
This is a plant that Miguel gave me 2 years ago... as a suposed red-hibrid jabotibaba.  :)
Another two pics more near...




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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #1049 on: November 15, 2015, 12:11:45 PM »
definitely not red jabo, looks exactly like my coronata (I suppose one of the most common forms)
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