Author Topic: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous  (Read 387207 times)

huertasurbanas

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3373
    • Junín, Argentina, zone 9b/9a
    • View Profile
    • huertasurbanas
Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #250 on: June 06, 2013, 02:13:53 PM »
Amazing presentation Adam, very beautiful pic's with lot's of information congrat's! ;) 8)

it was totally insane! very thanks!

by the way: here in Argentina, we are almost in winter... I protected the small 3 years all M. jaboticabas, they are still in the garden. (and they look pretty good)




I protected them from frosts by putting them under an eave, but

1 would it be good to enter them into the house in a place where the temperature never falls below 20º C and the sun gives them 3 or 4 hours per day?

2 should I use artificial light also? would it be good?

FlyingFoxFruits

  • Prince of Plinia
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12548
  • www.FlyingFoxFruits.com
    • USA, FEMA Region IV, FL Zone 9a
    • View Profile
    • Flying Fox Fruits
Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #251 on: June 06, 2013, 02:21:49 PM »
Thanks Hueratas!!! Glad you enjoyed the presentation!

Your jaboticaba looks just fine to me!  Maybe let it experience some cold weather to toughen it up!  I think some cold weather is beneficial.  Just don't let the tree get dry, and icy!  They seem to thrive, even if the temps are in the low 30's (F), as long as there is enough moisture in the air (or on the leaves), and protection from cold dry winds...(reduce wind exposure!)

Stay warm!!
www.FlyingFoxFruits.com

www.PLINIAS.com

https://www.ebay.com/usr/flyingfoxfruits

www.youtube.com/FlyingFoxFruits

https://www.instagram.com/flyingfoxfruits/
I disabled the forum's personal messaging system, please send an email to contact me, FlyingFoxFruits@gmail.com

fruitlovers

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 15883
  • www.fruitlovers.com
    • USA, Big Island, East Hawaii, Zone 13a
    • View Profile
    • Fruit Lover's Nursery
Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #252 on: June 06, 2013, 06:46:03 PM »
I vote keep them as warm as you possibly can. The warmer they are the faster they are going to grow for you. It's better to toughen them up when the plants are a lot larger. Small plants have a lot less resistance to cold than older plants. Also this way you will get fruits a lot faster!
Oscar

huertasurbanas

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3373
    • Junín, Argentina, zone 9b/9a
    • View Profile
    • huertasurbanas
Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #253 on: June 07, 2013, 03:15:03 PM »
Hi, thanks both

lets do something: I have three jaboticaba on a similar evolutionary state, 2 of them less grown than the other. I'll leave out 2 and enter 1. In 4 or 5 months we will see which grew more: if the one on the inside, or the 2 that are in the yard.


This is the one inside my house:


huertasurbanas

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3373
    • Junín, Argentina, zone 9b/9a
    • View Profile
    • huertasurbanas
Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #254 on: October 13, 2013, 09:13:56 AM »
SHG Hi, I have an important question for you: I have several Jaboticaba hybrid seeds that are germinating in ziploc bags,



 while another 3 germinated just in soil.(there are 3 more on soil, that had not being into ziploc bags)



The others are germinating in ziploc at temps that go from 25º C to 32º C or more, I pass them to soil when I hardly see a stem, Into the pots, the temp is 25º C or so. Then there is a noticeable drop in temperature.



put them in small pots and add a bit of soil just on the roots (not covering the whole seed), spraying water to moist, then I cover with PET bottle to keep moisture ;





I've been doing this two days ago: am I doing it well?

I would not want to spoil the seeds just as they are born to life ...


And the big question I have is: should cover the seeds completely with soil or should cover only the roots?

With guavas has worked well the method of covering only the root with soil after passing from ziploc to ground...

PltdWorld

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 601
    • San Diego, CA 10a
    • View Profile
Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #255 on: October 13, 2013, 11:02:19 AM »
I used the ziplock method to germinate jaboticaba seeds, once they sprouted a "tail", I transferred to soil outside.  Same as you, there is a noticeable drop in temps from inside to outside.  For the most part, they have all done well under those conditions.

FlyingFoxFruits

  • Prince of Plinia
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12548
  • www.FlyingFoxFruits.com
    • USA, FEMA Region IV, FL Zone 9a
    • View Profile
    • Flying Fox Fruits
Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #256 on: October 13, 2013, 05:41:50 PM »
Great to see you guys here to get some help!  Your being honest and coming forward takes a lot of courage.

I have a few friends I'm worried about...

Jabomano might be the worst off!  He thinks about them even more than me...and I thought I could think anyone under the table, when it came to myrciaria madness.

Also, a nice new fellow I've met named Huertasurbanas has been associating with the jabo junkies..asking lots of questions about where they get their fix.  He's just getting into this whole mix, so the choice is still his to make.
:o

it seemed like yesterday, i was expressing my concern about some of these questionable addict acquaintances you've been associating with... you got caught up with a bunch of jabo junkies...now look at you!!  :'(

openly posting on forums with total disregard for who might know about your self destructive habits.
 :'(

if you don't change your ways soon, you'll have jabos coming out of your ears!
 :D :P

but you know I'm proud of you for all of this  8) ;)




www.FlyingFoxFruits.com

www.PLINIAS.com

https://www.ebay.com/usr/flyingfoxfruits

www.youtube.com/FlyingFoxFruits

https://www.instagram.com/flyingfoxfruits/
I disabled the forum's personal messaging system, please send an email to contact me, FlyingFoxFruits@gmail.com

fruitlovers

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 15883
  • www.fruitlovers.com
    • USA, Big Island, East Hawaii, Zone 13a
    • View Profile
    • Fruit Lover's Nursery
Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #257 on: October 13, 2013, 06:26:15 PM »
I would cover the whole seed, not just the roots, because if you accidentally miss a watering the seed can too easily dry out. Ok if temperature is lower when transplanted, will do fine just grow a tiny bit slower.
Oscar

huertasurbanas

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3373
    • Junín, Argentina, zone 9b/9a
    • View Profile
    • huertasurbanas
Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #258 on: October 14, 2013, 08:35:14 PM »
Adam: I am totally lost! Oscar: I will do like you said from here and see what happens, thanks SHG

FlyingFoxFruits

  • Prince of Plinia
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12548
  • www.FlyingFoxFruits.com
    • USA, FEMA Region IV, FL Zone 9a
    • View Profile
    • Flying Fox Fruits
Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #259 on: October 14, 2013, 08:47:06 PM »
Huertas,

Sorry I dont mean to confuse you...I was just kidding.

I'm really happy to see you're addicted to jaboticabas!

www.FlyingFoxFruits.com

www.PLINIAS.com

https://www.ebay.com/usr/flyingfoxfruits

www.youtube.com/FlyingFoxFruits

https://www.instagram.com/flyingfoxfruits/
I disabled the forum's personal messaging system, please send an email to contact me, FlyingFoxFruits@gmail.com

huertasurbanas

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3373
    • Junín, Argentina, zone 9b/9a
    • View Profile
    • huertasurbanas
Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #260 on: October 14, 2013, 09:58:48 PM »
Adam: you are not confusing me, I am accepting my mental illness,

I have taken several photos to a jabo hybrid seed that now looks like a spider with many legs because the roots do not penetrate the soil..., but I have not posted for shame ...

Luisport

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3210
  • New in tropical fruit growing!
    • Fatima, Portugal
    • View Profile
Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #261 on: October 15, 2013, 01:49:25 PM »
My new jaboticaba family new plants  blue jabo

 cabeludinha


FlyingFoxFruits

  • Prince of Plinia
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12548
  • www.FlyingFoxFruits.com
    • USA, FEMA Region IV, FL Zone 9a
    • View Profile
    • Flying Fox Fruits
Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #262 on: October 15, 2013, 06:51:48 PM »
Luisport,

welcome to the meeting.

you must admit that you are powerless to the persuasion of plinia.

it's the first step to recovery.
  :D
www.FlyingFoxFruits.com

www.PLINIAS.com

https://www.ebay.com/usr/flyingfoxfruits

www.youtube.com/FlyingFoxFruits

https://www.instagram.com/flyingfoxfruits/
I disabled the forum's personal messaging system, please send an email to contact me, FlyingFoxFruits@gmail.com

Mike T

  • Zone 12a
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 9012
  • Cairns,Nth Qld, Australia
    • Zone 12a
    • View Profile
Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #263 on: October 15, 2013, 07:03:34 PM »
I have has poor germination with jabs in the past except for vexator.I am pleased to report I have a few red hybrid,new vexators,M.grandiflora, white jaboticabas and loads of M.trunciflora sprouting now. With about 6 species not germinating at all and 6 others lined up for this season there is still much to do on the jab. front.

FlyingFoxFruits

  • Prince of Plinia
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12548
  • www.FlyingFoxFruits.com
    • USA, FEMA Region IV, FL Zone 9a
    • View Profile
    • Flying Fox Fruits
Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #264 on: October 15, 2013, 10:47:57 PM »
when it comes to grafting, vexator lives up to it's name.

www.FlyingFoxFruits.com

www.PLINIAS.com

https://www.ebay.com/usr/flyingfoxfruits

www.youtube.com/FlyingFoxFruits

https://www.instagram.com/flyingfoxfruits/
I disabled the forum's personal messaging system, please send an email to contact me, FlyingFoxFruits@gmail.com

Luisport

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3210
  • New in tropical fruit growing!
    • Fatima, Portugal
    • View Profile
Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #265 on: October 16, 2013, 03:30:03 AM »
Luisport,

welcome to the meeting.

you must admit that you are powerless to the persuasion of plinia.

it's the first step to recovery.
  :D
Well yes...  :-[

Mike T

  • Zone 12a
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 9012
  • Cairns,Nth Qld, Australia
    • Zone 12a
    • View Profile
Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #266 on: October 16, 2013, 05:00:56 AM »
Judging by the number of posts and people having input anonymity is out the window.

val

  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 211
    • central florida 9b
    • View Profile
Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #267 on: October 16, 2013, 07:19:04 AM »
It's a gateway fruit, all the cool people are doing it!
 I bought a large tree but I didn't inhale, I mean taste.

FlyingFoxFruits

  • Prince of Plinia
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12548
  • www.FlyingFoxFruits.com
    • USA, FEMA Region IV, FL Zone 9a
    • View Profile
    • Flying Fox Fruits
Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #268 on: October 16, 2013, 09:49:51 AM »
Judging by the number of posts and people having input anonymity is out the window.

that's why we are using are profile names...duh.

Just don't try to figure out who Luc, Tim, and Tomas are.
 :P
www.FlyingFoxFruits.com

www.PLINIAS.com

https://www.ebay.com/usr/flyingfoxfruits

www.youtube.com/FlyingFoxFruits

https://www.instagram.com/flyingfoxfruits/
I disabled the forum's personal messaging system, please send an email to contact me, FlyingFoxFruits@gmail.com

davidgarcia899

  • Marabu Groves - Redland, Florida
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1536
  • Marabu Groves
    • USA, Miami-Dade, 33187, 10b
    • View Profile
Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #269 on: October 16, 2013, 10:47:08 AM »
I hate this thread, makes me realize how many species I'm missing.
- David Antonio Garcia

Tomas

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 773
    • USA, Virginia - 7a
    • View Profile
Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #270 on: October 16, 2013, 10:54:17 AM »
Hi David,

I have to agree. Just when I think I have all the different jaboticaba species I want, I learn about new ones that I haven't heard about before with different characteristics that I cannot resist.

Tomas

Tim

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1550
    • USA, Escondido, CA 92027, zone 9b
    • View Profile
Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #271 on: October 16, 2013, 11:25:44 AM »
That's where you're wrong...Tim is just a profile name, my real name is Mit

Judging by the number of posts and people having input anonymity is out the window.

that's why we are using are profile names...duh.

Just don't try to figure out who Luc, Tim, and Tomas are.
 :P
Tim

davidgarcia899

  • Marabu Groves - Redland, Florida
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1536
  • Marabu Groves
    • USA, Miami-Dade, 33187, 10b
    • View Profile
Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #272 on: October 16, 2013, 12:57:09 PM »
Hi David,

I have to agree. Just when I think I have all the different jaboticaba species I want, I learn about new ones that I haven't heard about before with different characteristics that I cannot resist.

Tomas

I am dying to try a white jabo. Or to have a M. trunciflora again, its been soooooo long.

And every time I look my Coronata seedlings I want to yell at them to hurry up hahaha
- David Antonio Garcia

xshen

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 463
    • Glendora &amp El Monte, 10A
    • View Profile
Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #273 on: October 16, 2013, 01:34:10 PM »
I bought 4 jabos form PIN and I intend to keep them in containers for the rest of their lives.  Assuming space is not a concern, Is it beneficial to transplant the 3 gal jabos straight into a 25g pot?  Or should I work my way up from a 5gal pot first?  I just wanted to make sure first before I transfer them.

Should I transplant now or should I wait until next spring.  I am thinking next spring.

FlyingFoxFruits

  • Prince of Plinia
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12548
  • www.FlyingFoxFruits.com
    • USA, FEMA Region IV, FL Zone 9a
    • View Profile
    • Flying Fox Fruits
Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #274 on: October 16, 2013, 03:59:22 PM »
I bought 4 jabos form PIN and I intend to keep them in containers for the rest of their lives.  Assuming space is not a concern, Is it beneficial to transplant the 3 gal jabos straight into a 25g pot?  Or should I work my way up from a 5gal pot first?  I just wanted to make sure first before I transfer them.

Should I transplant now or should I wait until next spring.  I am thinking next spring.

step it up gradually!

as long as you're keeping the plant warm. I wouldn't worry about waiting for spring...go ahead and step them up into 5 or 7 gal.

I like to use a deep pots...like the ones pecans come in.

it allows you to go from 5 to a 15gal much faster. (like I did with my starcherries)

but it can also be nuisance when the trees get large and fill out the deep pots....they're very prone to being knocked over by the wind.

www.FlyingFoxFruits.com

www.PLINIAS.com

https://www.ebay.com/usr/flyingfoxfruits

www.youtube.com/FlyingFoxFruits

https://www.instagram.com/flyingfoxfruits/
I disabled the forum's personal messaging system, please send an email to contact me, FlyingFoxFruits@gmail.com