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The PPK is a real spitter & highly over rated mango which I will be glad to take off your hands..........Just kidding PPK is a definite keeper.  Other than Rosigold & NDM I would keep the rest.

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Rosigold is early but the flavor ain't there.  It's like kissing your sister.  NDM is a typical "one note" asian mango.  Sweet but unappealing with no personality or actual traditional mango flavor, but some people rave about it for reasons beyond me.  But if the trees have any size to them just get the bud wood of your choice from somebody in the forum & top work them.  Faster than buying new SMALL trees.  Not hard to learn how - there are tons of videos on you tube and elsewhere.

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Just wondering about how long it takes for Turpentine seeds to grow to grafting size?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Late Mangoes: Beverly vs. Cotton Candy
« on: June 19, 2018, 10:43:59 PM »
1. Does Cotton Candy suffer from black spot or any other major issues like Kent?

2. Which one of these varieties is later?

3. Which one tastes better & the better tree to plant?

Thanks.

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EARLY:  Edward, Glenn, PPK
MID: Carrie, Sweet Tart, Coconut Cream
LATE: Keitt, Beverly, Kent, Cotton Candy?

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I was hoping to plant a couple LATE season Mango trees. Keitt & Kent along with Beverly were at the top of my list as likely choices.  So I was concerned to see that Tropical Acres now no longer recommends Keitt or Kent for home planting due to newer disease issues. Are the problems really that bad?  We don't have enough good late season varieties now as it is.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado talk 6/18
« on: June 18, 2018, 05:00:55 PM »
When are you going to start shipping avocados? I need a source in Florida that ships and has a good choice of varieties.

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I have found great sources for Mangoes (ie Squam), but are there any places in FLORIDA that have a WIDE VARIETY of Avocados for sale & WHO SHIP.  Acquiring avocado trees isn't my problem.  Finding a place to buy/taste the fruit before planting the trees is.  Squam (Tropical Acres) rules for his massive variety of mangoes - who is the avocado fruit king equivalent? Thanks. 

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Along with NDM, Maha Chanok is one of the most over rated mangoes IMHO.  Maybe if you like "one note" asian mangoes you might like it.  But both myself & friends didn't give it a good score for flavor in a mango tasting & comparison session.  A lot of people seem to think it's great tho.  If only they tasted as good as they look.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Squam - Tropical Acres Farms Order Review
« on: June 08, 2018, 05:49:26 PM »
Hey All

Just finished off a custom variety box of early variety mangoes from Squam/Alex.   The Glenns, Duncans & PPK's stole the show.  Angie, Rosigold & Dupuis Saigon didn't appeal to to my palate, but your mileage may vary.  Avoid the temptation of eating them a day early and you'll be rewarded with a much better eating experience.  Once again thanks Alex for being a wealth of information & providing a valuable resource we can all enjoy.  Keep up the good work sir.

1. PPK'S (8.0 to 8.25) - If you eat them a day early they're a pleasantly tart & lemony (8.0).  Give them just an extra day & they take on an even better orangey sweeter flavor (8.25).  Wait an extra day for fully ripe - it's worth it.  Excellent Mango that anyone could like.  Not the perfect "10" that some people describe, but still VERY good.  Met expectations.

2. Glenns (8.25) - Great breakfast mango.  Still the #1 best heavenly smelling Mango I know of even before you cut into it. First one I ate I didn't let it fully ripen & it was a bit watery & diluted tasting as other people have mentioned about Glenns.  The other one I gave an extra couple of extra days & it was one of the best mild tasting Mango's I've ever had.  It was like a really good juicy garden fresh refreshing ice cold cantaloupe.  Strong pleasant cantaloupe flavor.  Glenn exceeded my expectations.

3. Duncan (8.0) - What a delightful mango.  Very smooth, juicy & refreshing.  Very enjoyable eating experience & under rated/taken for granted Mango.  Smooth & slightly creamy like it Edward ancestor, with a hint of Asian flavor that wasn't objectionable for those who don't care for most "one note" Asian type Mango (like me). Duncan also exceeded my expectations.

All three of these varieties were top tier & I would highly recommend & are deserving of yard space.




 



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I have some fresh Mahachanok scions sitting in the fridge.  Can someone give me a taste profile?   Have a friend who says they taste like a carrot.

Maha is a very pretty & attractive slim rainbow colored mango.  Shape is somewhat like NDM and the flavor is similar in that it's rather "one note" and uninteresting.  Not a fan of NDM or Maha and think they are both over rated.  I have shared Maha's with friends who weren't impresssed either.  Myself & friends gave Maha only a 7 at best.    I will say that people who love NDM will probably also like Maha's.  Just my experience with them - your mileage may vary.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Need help completing Squam Mango Order
« on: May 29, 2018, 12:33:53 AM »
I am doing a custom Mango order of untried varieties with Squam soon and have room for a few more varieties to add.  These are some of the varieties that he has in season that I couldn't find much info on in the forum or net & that I've never had before.  Are there any here that are standouts of say "8" or above on this list?  Not a fan of overly "mild" or "one note" mangoes (Nam Doc). I prefer sweet, tart, complex & full flavored mangoes (Maillika/Carrie/Edward/Dot).  Thanks for any input.

Ah Ping
Dupuis Saigon
Hindi Bessenara
Mario
Peach (Different than Juicy Peach??)
Carabao
Simmonds
Torbert
Wester

I ruled out Falan, Florigon, Jean Ellen & Okrung as they didn't sound like exceptional varieties from what I read. 

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Edward should be a lock for an early variety IMHO.  I know a lot of people rave about Maha, but the few I've had were only about a "7" for flavor, a bit "two dimensional" and a bit "generic".  Not bad just nothing special. I had seriously considered planting Maha before I tasted a few then ruled it out.     

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Hey Guys

Planning on adding a few more mango trees and would like input on what the top 3 EARLY, MID & LATE mangoes are for those that don't have unlimited space.  From other posts this is what I came up with.  Since this is about trees and not just fruit - fruiting reliability & disease/cold resistance are also factors to be considered.  I already have a mature Carrie & Valencia Pride.

EARLY

1. Edward (Already a lock in on planting this one)
2. Glenn  (Already a Lock)
3. PPK (Already a Lock)

Mid - Mallika


LATE

1. Venus  (I believe Alex has said this was the all-round best tasting late mango)
2. Keitt
3. Lancetilla, Cotton Candy etc.????

Thanks for your help & suggestions.


PS -  If anyone is ordering Mangoes from Alex, his Edward, Malika's, PPK, Glenn & Duncan were EXCELLENT. 

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What is the latest Keitt (or other) mango that you've ever picked?  Has anyone still been getting Keitt's into November?

This is the total catch of the day picture of just over 5 lb of Keitt mango. 2.3lb +2.2lb + 1lb mango.
Hope all in South Florida are still getting their fresh mango fix.  :)


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Nice catch. What kind of bait do your use?


This is the total catch of the day picture of just over 5 lb of Keitt mango. 2.3lb +2.2lb + 1lb mango.
Hope all in South Florida are still getting their fresh mango fix.  :)


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Top 5 banana varieties
« on: October 19, 2016, 09:42:07 PM »
Hey guys

I have experimented with trying to grow about 5-6 different common banana varieties over the years here in 9B all with the same results.  They grow fine until the first frost hits and then they are killed outright or at least down to the ground.  Even if when come back there isn't enough time for them grow, flower & mature fruit in the approx. 9 month window between frosts.  Are they any good tasting very fast growing "idiot proof" banana varieties that will reliably produce fruit here in 9B?   I'm sure there probably are, but so far I have had rotten luck with my few attempts with bananas and it's discouraged me from trying again.

Thanks!!

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Hey guys

I have experimented with trying to grow about 5-6 different common banana varieties over the years here in 9B all with the same results.  They grow fine until the first frost hits and then they are killed outright or at least down to the ground.  Even if they come back there isn't enough time for them grow, flower & mature fruit in the approx. 9 month window between frosts.  Are there any good tasting very fast growing "idiot proof" banana varieties that will reliably produce fruit here in 9B?   I'm sure there probably are, but so far I have had rotten luck with my few attempts with bananas and it's discouraged me from trying again.

Thanks!!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mangosteen ordering
« on: October 16, 2016, 01:05:48 AM »
Antarctica no unless you have a heated greenhouse, but there are reports of them being successfully grown & fruited in South Florida Z10 near the coast, but not in California.  I usually find that sarcasm is usually best reserved for stupid questions.

Can you grow Mangosteens in Florida 9B??


Hello guys, I am going to order a mangosteen plant from Hulabrothers for $95.95 with shipping. They have it at $150 for two with shipping. My question is, anyone wants to do it and save? It will be 75 each. They say the tree is > 36 inches on their website. Anyone near Punta Gorda or Port Charlotte?

Yes. You can grow Mangosteens in Antarctica.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mangosteen ordering
« on: October 15, 2016, 09:09:36 PM »
Can you grow Mangosteens in Florida 9B??


Hello guys, I am going to order a mangosteen plant from Hulabrothers for $95.95 with shipping. They have it at $150 for two with shipping. My question is, anyone wants to do it and save? It will be 75 each. They say the tree is > 36 inches on their website. Anyone near Punta Gorda or Port Charlotte?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Kensington Pride Mango
« on: October 08, 2016, 05:03:59 PM »
Every time I'm tempted to scoff at our Aussie friends for making the KP their default "national" mango, I have to remind myself that the TA in many respects is the default "national" mango here at least commercially. 

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There are two schools of thought here.  Is your primary purpose to have a long season of good tasting fruit i.e May to October for Mangos or just want 3 varieties that may only give your 6-8 weeks of Mangos if they come in at the same time?  Unless you freeze them, how many mangos can you eat in just June & July which is the primary season for most of the varieties which can overlap.

If extending the season with the best tasting varieties is the primary goal as it should be for most home owners with limited space then I would choose:

1. Early (May): Edward - an early variety that many still think is the most awesome tasting GOAT mango (Dr. Crane, Dr. Campbell, etc).  Choices are limited for early varieties so I think Edward becomes the obvious choice.

2. Mid (July): Lemon Zest or Sweet Tart (no doubt the two most popular on the forum), Carrie and many other good ones to choose from as most mangoes are mid season (June - Aug) varieties generally.  Let your own taste buds decide on your favorite mid-season variety.

3. Very Late (October): Keitt pretty much stands alone without much competition as the best late variety if you consistently want good tasting Mango's in October.

Good Luck!! 


I know this may be crazy to ask. But if you had to pick 3 mango's to grow in South Florida which varieties would the mango educated choose? My plan is to get a jump on grow out on some harder to find trees including mango, before purchase of a house. I'm going more for quality/flavor, and disease resistance verse production.

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@Squam - I was all set to buy a Keitt for my "late mango tree", then I read your post about Venus.

1. Not to be belabor the point, but if you only had room for one "late" dooryard mango tree you would pick/recommend Venus over Keitt?  Any other pros/cons between the two varieties worth  mentioning in comparison?

2. Generally Is there any significant difference in "lateness" between Keitt & Venus and if so approximately how much in most years?  Does Keitt have any edge in "lateness" over Venus? A few days, couple weeks. etc.

Thanks - you are a fountain of Mango knowledge sir.


I still have Venus and Kiew Yai fruit on the trees. Venus is absolutely superior to Keitt in flavor. Here's a photo from today:


This one was harvested yesterday.


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I have often been told that Washington Navels don't hold their juice & produce quality fruit in Florida due to our hot summers here, thus the reason for Florida navel varieties like Glen, Varn/Varney, etc.  which while okay don't taste the same or as good as a California/Washington navel IMO.  Despite it not being recommended I planted a Washington Navel (which can be found in Florida nurseries) a few years ago just to see for myself.  The tree has been VERY slow growing (even for a navel), but otherwise healthy.  The few fruit it has produced haven't been very good as expected, but the tree is still small.

Has anyone else grown California/Washington navels in Florida and if so what was your experience with them?  Do they taste like store bought Navels or better?  If Washington's truly don't do well in Florida what is the best tasting standard (non-red) Navel variety for Florida 9B - Glen, Dream, Late, etc.?  I have grown Varn Navels before on recommendation and while they were pretty good they weren't "outstanding".

Thanks!!   

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