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Looking for Gwen avocado scions, buy or trade.

Please let me know. appreciate your help,

K

Did you get the black madeira from this year's exchange? I thought I saw it at the OC event but when I went back to the table I saw a lot of black mission but that was it. Didn't see it at the other meetings.

Im hoping to go down to the foothill meeting as well but will probably only have some apple and stone fruit as my avos are pretty small and I've given away most of those cuttings at the previous meetings.

I met someone at the OC meeting who says she grafts mangoes now and near perfect take. She said she grafts just before they push new growth and panicles with excellent results -- seems to go against everything I've read about on this forum. I may try it.

-K

I've been to 3 of the scion wood exchanges this year and made out like a bandit 

I got my hands on the following:

Apricot   Cultivar
   Luizet
   Goldbeck's Perfection
   Tropical Gold
   Tardif de Bordaniel
   Golden Amber
   Gold Kist
   Shiro Kaga
   
Peach   
   JB 47 White Peach (locally named cultivar after Jim Bathgate)
   
Nectarine   
   Sauzee
   Flavor Top
   Panamint
Plum   
   Green Gage
   
Pluot   
   Flavor Treat
   
Cherry   
   Lapins
   
Avocado   
   Queen
   Nabal
   Daily 11
   Yamagata
   Edranol
   Nimlioh
   Ardith
   Linda
   Choquette
   Nowels

Cherimoya
        Booth


Mulberry
         White lavender fat
          Persian

Fig
         Conadria
         Fig 9336



The San Diego meeting is next. Anyone grab anything interesting? I hadn't heard of Flavor Treat or Flavor Top, but apparently they are mainly commercial varieties and not really widely released to the public. Daily 11 is a very large avocado but I heard taste is average. I hear a lot about choquette avocados from Florida and was told it is a typical West Indian variety (not my favorite profile) but willing to try it out. I don't know anything about Linda avocado.

K

I have keitt on turpentine from Florida and another from Laverne. The Florida one is a year older but is growing wildly. The largest of my admittedly small trees. I have some brokaw mangoes which are also growing quickly but not sure what rootstock those are on. Brokaw is in Ventura county so I figured their rootstock would be suitable for SoCal.

K

I’m sure someone with more experience  can/will correct me but my understanding is that the type of growth is dictated by average temperatures and rainfall. If the tree is actively growing and average temps are below 65 then you will get panicles. If the average temps are higher then you will get vegetative growth. We have tricky weather here in SoCal because our daytime temps can be high while the lows at night can drag the averages under the bar. Most of my mangoes had vegetative growt starting in may/June. All growth before then last year were panicles.

As for rainfall, I think mangoes also like the flower after the dry season.

K

Seemed to me it was much heftier, longer, and wider in the belly than fuerte and overall bigger than bacon. Maybe the pictures for size comparison aren't that great but I tried to show that it is nearly as long as a banana and more than twice as big as a store-bought haas avocado (the little black one on the side). Seemed much bigger than a large haas or lamb. About as wide around as a large reed but taller than a Pinkerton.

K

I just received budwood for a booth cherimoya. I have pierce el bumpo and Santa Rosa but no rootstock so looking to add it on (probably to el bumpo as that is the biggest one I have).
2 questions though:
1) anything I should know about cherimoya grafting? Is this the wrong season? Do temps need to be higher?

2) also, My trees are essentially defoliated from some terrible Santa Ana winds last month and they haven't sprouted leaves or pushed new growth yet. If I graft now, will growth push to the graft as well or is it better to wait for the trees to recover and then graft.


Thanks
K

That's something to look forward to. I cut mine back last summer (10 gallon pot) and it took forever and a day to sprout some new growth. But it's in full sun and hasn't batted an eye at high heat, night time lows, or Santa Ana winds.

K

I've seen the greenhouse in the back. It is full however labeling is terrible. I would consider it just about impossible to know which variety is which. Many pots or sleeves not labeled, some labeled with wrong tree type (i.e. Roses).

K

At a previous oc crfg meeting on figs earlier this year, the speaker mentIroned that certain fig varieties are best suited for specific locations. He mentioned black Madeira as being outstanding for inland areas. He felt that they didn't develop appropriate taste close to the coast. He recommended prieto (sp?) fig for coastal climates.

There are a lot of online resources on figs . It sounds like you can get outstanding tasting figs if grown in the right environment.

Here are 2 pictures of my phoenix trees.

I received it from toptropicals at the end of April. When I received with tree, it essentially defoliated but had a nice thick-caliper trunk. The first flush under my care showed these uniquely-shaped long slender twisted leaves. Subsequent flushes have looked like more standard mango flushes.

Tree is growing here in Orange CA but my cotton candy which is next to it and came under similar circumstances (but from plantogram) has grown more vigorously and is more than a foot taller and wider on both sides.

I attached a second picture to show how the phoenix is doing compared to some other mangoes. From left to right: back row, (far left, almost out of picture) Madame Francis, Kathy, Juicy Peach, Sweet Tart; front row, Peach Cobbler, Phoenix, Cotton Candy).



The white powdery stuff on the leaves is WP Surround. I got a hint from Carlos's website. I sprayed it hoping to prevent burning of my trees when it reached 100 in August. Nothing burned except for my Sharwil avocado but I think it may have cooled the mangoes too much in September as they seemed to just pause during the first 3 weeks of 70-80 degree weather in September. They are picking up again after this past week of heat but this may be the last flush of the season for them.

As an aside, I also have Ambrosia and Kathy and both have been slow growers for me. Ambrosia put out 1 flush. Kathy put out 2-3 but only grows about 4 inches in between spurts. Kesar also very slow growing, with most of the growth causing the tree to branch out.

Mine in ground for 8 months with two flushes but very small flushes, appears to be slow grower in CA.

Can someone please post pictures of new fresh growth leaves and matured leaves? wanted to compare if I got real one, lately Florida nurseries are sending us mislabeled stuff.

Mark, what is your keyplex spraying regimen? I sprayed a few months back. I thought I followed the directions and diluted appropriately but a part of me still felt I was using too much. I sprayed anyways. Got a lot of damage to my plants. Lots of dark black spots, esp on fruits (citrus especially). Looked like small cigarette burns.

K

Quote from: Susanne42 on September 19, 2017, 06:05:01 PM

Mark what makes you think the flying dragon root stock induce chlorosis? I don't understand why it prolongs dormancy and does this really matter for container grown trees that are kept warm year round?

Based on experience and also parroted in expert's guide after thorough testing of rootstocks.  Can't find the link but FD is known for being the most prone to chlorosis of them all.   Google is your friend.

Here's a Meyer lemon branch on FD with the new foliage OK after spraying and drenching with Keyplex 350DP, the only micro supplement I've found that works:



Note that the older foliage is chlorotic?