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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #650 on: March 09, 2015, 08:05:32 PM »
I have quite a lot of confusion as to which type these are with conflicting identification from multiple people. Can anyone identify with any certainty? Images 1 & 2 are the same plant. Images 3 & 4 are two additional different plants. Thank you in advance.






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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #651 on: March 09, 2015, 08:16:19 PM »
blue jabo in pics 1 & 2 (m vexator)

pic 3 is (Sabara)( M. jaboticaba) always sold mislabeled as M. cauliflora, which I can assure you, it is NOT

pic4, is the Hybrid Red Jaboticaba, aka Precoce, or Hibrida...looks like maybe yours got dry? or maybe too much fert? or high pH city water?

it will bounce back don't worry..just keep it watered, and don't over fertilize it..they can die from too much Nitrogen



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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #652 on: March 09, 2015, 08:18:45 PM »
Thank you. I was most confused by the hybrid. I will have to read more about that. Thanks again!

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #653 on: March 09, 2015, 08:20:15 PM »
Yes it did get a little dry when I was out of town unfortunately someone forgot to water for me.

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #654 on: March 09, 2015, 08:24:13 PM »
Yes it did get a little dry when I was out of town unfortunately someone forgot to water for me.

it will be ok..it might even make it stronger!

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #655 on: March 09, 2015, 08:40:50 PM »
I water with well water. I am working on putting in a rainwater system solely for the jaboticabas, particularly when the smaller ones are large enough to plant.

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #656 on: March 09, 2015, 08:51:47 PM »
I water with well water. I am working on putting in a rainwater system solely for the jaboticabas, particularly when the smaller ones are large enough to plant.

sounds like u have the right idea...if your well water is problematic (which it most likely is not), you can always drench occasionally with chelated Fe to treat any nutritional deficiencies.

if you can collect rainwater for your plants, the pH sensitive varieties will love it!
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #657 on: March 10, 2015, 10:25:50 AM »
Can someone help to confirm that these two plants are Sabara, thanks




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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #658 on: March 10, 2015, 12:07:42 PM »
looks like sabara...but close up pics of the leaves would be helpful.

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #659 on: March 10, 2015, 12:24:14 PM »
Leaves look a little big to be sabrara, but I'd defer to Adam's opinion
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #660 on: March 10, 2015, 08:27:37 PM »
Another picture that has better view of the leaves. Actually the seller only say that it is Jaboticaba from Taiwan, it is my understanding that most Jaboticaba in Taiwan are Sabara. Especially at the price of less than US13 for a 1 meter plant. A friend of mine in China is getting this, he ask me to help to confirm that it is a real Jaboticaba.


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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #661 on: March 10, 2015, 08:58:52 PM »
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #662 on: March 10, 2015, 09:46:10 PM »
Thanks Adam.

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #663 on: March 12, 2015, 08:37:54 AM »
3rd bloom of the year for this tree. Looks to be a super bloom.  I guess it liked the shovel full of wood ash a month ago!

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #664 on: March 12, 2015, 02:17:04 PM »
What's the difference between a red hybrid jabo and a regular sabara? Any leaf difference?

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #665 on: March 12, 2015, 02:33:03 PM »
Back that thread up.

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #666 on: March 14, 2015, 09:38:20 PM »
Re:pruning, I was looking at the very unpruned jaboticaba outside of ECHO earlier today, and I was wondering if leaving one more bushy might help to keep bird predation down. Thoughts?
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #667 on: March 14, 2015, 10:22:21 PM »
Which kind of jaboticaba would most likely be able to live in a spot that has water 4 feet / 1 foot deep at all times?

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #668 on: March 14, 2015, 10:38:42 PM »
None. They like occasional temporary flooding but die from root rot if kept in standing water all the time.

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #669 on: March 14, 2015, 10:47:21 PM »
Re:pruning, I was looking at the very unpruned jaboticaba outside of ECHO earlier today, and I was wondering if leaving one more bushy might help to keep bird predation down. Thoughts?

definitely.

we've touched on this subject before...

it will make your fruit vulnerable, by virtue of them being exposed more, and also the tree will have much more fruit to be seen, and stolen, because it's so much more productive!
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #670 on: March 14, 2015, 11:04:58 PM »
None. They like occasional temporary flooding but die from root rot if kept in standing water all the time.

I'll take that as a challenge I suppose

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #671 on: March 14, 2015, 11:13:31 PM »
If your tree is not too big, maybe put like a chicken wire cage around it on all sides, maybe cylindrical with a top to prevent birds from getting at it?

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« Reply #672 on: March 15, 2015, 07:15:06 AM »
If your tree is not too big, maybe put like a chicken wire cage around it on all sides, maybe cylindrical with a top to prevent birds from getting at it?

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I use this, way softer than chicken netting.

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #673 on: March 15, 2015, 07:55:35 AM »
Re:pruning, I was looking at the very unpruned jaboticaba outside of ECHO earlier today, and I was wondering if leaving one more bushy might help to keep bird predation down. Thoughts?

definitely.

we've touched on this subject before...

it will make your fruit vulnerable, by virtue of them being exposed more, and also the tree will have much more fruit to be seen, and stolen, because it's so much more productive!

When jaboticabas are happy they produce incredibly so much fruit that everyone has more than enough, both people and animals. Birds will tend to eat the ones at the top and people the ones at the bottom. And even so the ground will still be carpeted in fruits. What is the good of birds not stealing anything if the tree also hardly produces anything? I'd rather go with plan B: Bountiful.
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« Reply #674 on: March 15, 2015, 09:07:41 AM »
Thanks, sorry if that had been discussed earlier in the thread and I missed it. I'm generally also in favor of the more bountiful option, but Jabomano talking about having one of his jabos stripped bare in a day when he forgot the bird netting had me thinking.

Re:pruning, I was looking at the very unpruned jaboticaba outside of ECHO earlier today, and I was wondering if leaving one more bushy might help to keep bird predation down. Thoughts?

definitely.

we've touched on this subject before...

it will make your fruit vulnerable, by virtue of them being exposed more, and also the tree will have much more fruit to be seen, and stolen, because it's so much more productive!

When jaboticabas are happy they produce incredibly so much fruit that everyone has more than enough, both people and animals. Birds will tend to eat the ones at the top and people the ones at the bottom. And even so the ground will still be carpeted in fruits. What is the good of birds not stealing anything if the tree also hardly produces anything? I'd rather go with plan B: Bountiful.
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