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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #175 on: April 21, 2013, 08:25:03 PM »
Very impressive!  Thanks for sharing.  How big a tree?

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #176 on: April 22, 2013, 02:45:10 AM »
Had Mouriri pusa at some point. Don't recall what happened to it? Vague memory now, but as i recall it didn't have the cerrado curse, but was a slow grower. Photos you posted are neat looking alright!

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #177 on: April 26, 2013, 09:22:48 AM »
Treat them like jaboticaba seeds.  Just don't water them as much.

Good luck.

(this is one of the few plants that we are allowed to discuss here, that's not a Myrtle.  ;) )

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #178 on: April 26, 2013, 12:44:40 PM »
Adam - do you have some Jabo trees available?  My wife is a Jaboticabaholic and needs a fix.  I sent you a PM as well.

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #179 on: April 26, 2013, 02:02:49 PM »
Adam - do you have some Jabo trees available?  My wife is a Jaboticabaholic and needs a fix.  I sent you a PM as well.

sorry PltdWorld,

I will not be able to ship plants out of FL.

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #180 on: April 28, 2013, 03:09:30 PM »


I hope this worked!?!
Does anyone know what variety of Jabo this tree is? 

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #181 on: April 28, 2013, 07:58:53 PM »
hard to tell...need better pic!

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #182 on: April 28, 2013, 08:04:04 PM »



This picture should be better if you click on it, if not Ill take more tom.  Iphone pics are iffy.

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #183 on: April 28, 2013, 08:07:22 PM »
still pretty hard to tell from pics.

reminds me of M. trunciflora though.
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #184 on: April 28, 2013, 08:11:37 PM »
Thanks ADam, I will take a couple more pics tom and maybe that will help. 

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #185 on: April 28, 2013, 08:17:03 PM »
Thanks ADam, I will take a couple more pics tom and maybe that will help.

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youre welcome...I could tell you needed some help...your are in a support group after all !

Nice tree BTW...If it's truncilfora...it would be sensitive to city water, and high ph...always looking kind of sickly.  The bark looks different than the common M. jaboticaba , Sabara.  It looks more tan/beige...where the sabara looks more red/orange/grey.
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #186 on: April 28, 2013, 08:21:04 PM »
Adam this tree, i think, is definately not Sabara just based on the others I have that i know are Sabara.  I am no where near the expert but I have learned alot from you guys.  This particular tree was just transplanted and brought back from the dead.  Jabos are very tough i think, and I was able to bring this baby back to life.  I am on well water so I dont have to worry about city water which is good.  i have no idea what my soil is but I use alot of organic fertilizer on my trees.

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #187 on: April 28, 2013, 08:26:09 PM »
I've seen them get chlorotic on well water.

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #188 on: April 28, 2013, 09:23:17 PM »
That tree came to me in a 5 gallon from Gary at GMG tropicals fruits in Loxahatchee.  I got that tree about 3 1/2 years ago and it was at my fathers house.  He neglected it so I took it and planted it at my house.  Its a really nice looking tree and it looked awful when I transplanted it but there is a ton of new growth on it now, and I am hoping it makes a come back.  Tom's picks will really shed some light, the actual bark on the tree is like a light gray color but I dont know if thats from the neglect or its natural color.

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #189 on: April 28, 2013, 09:35:27 PM »
ok..I looked again...real close..and I'm quite certain it's truncilfora.

the new growth has no pubescence at all...and the leaves are larger, more membranous than sabara.

the tree is larger than sabara, and takes longer to fruit from seed.   Give the tree some shade (maybe 15-40%), protection from wind, and lots of good water...(don't forget to feed regularly, but don't over do it!).

the tree will fruit much faster.
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #190 on: April 28, 2013, 09:43:16 PM »
Thanks Adam!  I can tell you the leaves are longer and more narrow than the Sabara's I have and also they are more membranous.  So I think you assumption is probably correct, I have a grimal too and they kind of look similiar and I almost thought it was, thats why I wanted to ask.  Is the truniclflora a good variety? 

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #191 on: April 28, 2013, 10:10:02 PM »
Thanks Adam!  I can tell you the leaves are longer and more narrow than the Sabara's I have and also they are more membranous.  So I think you assumption is probably correct, I have a grimal too and they kind of look similiar and I almost thought it was, thats why I wanted to ask.  Is the truniclflora a good variety?

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #193 on: April 29, 2013, 03:54:40 PM »
looks like a trunciflora.  they really struggle in conditions that are less than optimal...unlike the sabara, which is adaptable.

I'd advise you to keep pH low...and keep the water flowing...it's a thirsty tree, and a quick grower!
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #194 on: April 29, 2013, 04:34:04 PM »
Thanks adam, i need to get a soil tester kit and check and see what my soil is doing.  I use alot of organic fertilizer and I like to heavily mulch the jabos to keep the moisture in.  The tree is really starting to come back so I am hoping it really gets going this summer. thanks for again for all your help. 

Unrelated, do you like the yellow Jabo and is it a hard to tree to grow in South Florida?

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #195 on: April 29, 2013, 05:06:06 PM »
I really like Yellow jabo...the flavor is unique and delicious...like apricot coconut.

Its easy to grow, but gets chlorotic pretty easy with city water, or lime rock  (likes low pH).

fruits can get decent sized if you properly care for the tree.  They fruit quickly from seed, in about 4yrs.



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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #196 on: April 29, 2013, 05:27:44 PM »
I really like Yellow jabo...the flavor is unique and delicious...like apricot coconut.

Its easy to grow, but gets chlorotic pretty easy with city water, or lime rock  (likes low pH).

fruits can get decent sized if you properly care for the tree.  They fruit quickly from seed, in about 4yrs.




That's a nice big one! I like em too, but refuse to use the name yellow jaboticaba as they don't look, taste, or feel anything like a jaboticaba. Cabelluda, meaning hairy fruit, seems more descripitive, but probably yellow jabo is better selling name.
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #197 on: April 29, 2013, 05:59:57 PM »
I really like Yellow jabo...the flavor is unique and delicious...like apricot coconut.

Its easy to grow, but gets chlorotic pretty easy with city water, or lime rock  (likes low pH).

fruits can get decent sized if you properly care for the tree.  They fruit quickly from seed, in about 4yrs.




That's a nice big one! I like em too, but refuse to use the name yellow jaboticaba as they don't look, taste, or feel anything like a jaboticaba. Cabelluda, meaning hairy fruit, seems more descripitive, but probably yellow jabo is better selling name.

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the common Portuguese names are really hard to sell in USA. 

I agree somewhat with your statement, but other similar myrciaria fruits are hairy!  I still haven't even thought of a common name for M. strigipes...I think the translation of the common name is "Beach Cambuca", which is what I've been calling it, although I think a better name could be invented.

I've really got into the habit of only referring to jaboticabas by their botanical name...it can be a good and bad thing!  I seem to confuse lots of newbies, but it gets the message across to enthusiasts and collectors!
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #198 on: April 29, 2013, 06:10:04 PM »
I really like Yellow jabo...the flavor is unique and delicious...like apricot coconut.

Its easy to grow, but gets chlorotic pretty easy with city water, or lime rock  (likes low pH).

fruits can get decent sized if you properly care for the tree.  They fruit quickly from seed, in about 4yrs.




That's a nice big one! I like em too, but refuse to use the name yellow jaboticaba as they don't look, taste, or feel anything like a jaboticaba. Cabelluda, meaning hairy fruit, seems more descripitive, but probably yellow jabo is better selling name.

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the common Portuguese names are really hard to sell in USA. 

I agree somewhat with your statement, but other similar myrciaria fruits are hairy!  I still haven't even thought of a common name for M. strigipes...I think the translation of the common name is "Beach Cambuca", which is what I've been calling it, although I think a better name could be invented.

I've really got into the habit of only referring to jaboticabas by their botanical name...it can be a good and bad thing!  I seem to confuse lots of newbies, but it gets the message across to enthusiasts and collectors!

Well jaboticaba is a portuguese name isn't it? And it sells. But yeah, for the most part you're right. English names are easier to relate to for english speakers. BTW, cabelluda is the spanish spelling. The portuguese spelling ins cabeluda. True other myrtaceases are hairy, but this is hairiest of them all. I've been thinking about this one lately, but for now will stick to my guns (pun intended) and keep the name cabelluda.
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #199 on: April 29, 2013, 06:47:55 PM »
I will have to look into getting a yellow then!!! since i am cleary a jabo addict, what other varieties would you guys recommend me trying to get? I have a sabara, trunciflora, grimal, vexator, red, sabara X.  I am trying to get my hands on a white but i cant find one anywhere, and most places i called down here are out or havent heard of it.  So other than that am I missing any must get jabos ( that are available in the us) ??