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Im in southern California. My trees are very young so I water my mango trees a little bit every day, except on cooler days. My Valencia Pride has been in the ground for about 3 years. To my surprise, It pumped out 17 large mangos in the second year after it was planted. I remember watering it everyday and applying bloombooster 0 10 10 once a month until harvest. My coconut cream is in its second year in the ground. The first year had huge blooms, but no fruit set. This year is looking pretty good. I have it planted with VP in the same hole. It must be the bloombooster and maybe the cross pollination with VP or the roots are more established. Could be all the above. Hopefully, I will have some homegrown coconut cream this year!
In this picture, Coconut Cream on the left and VP on the right. Both are fruiting this year.
Coconut Cream fruitlets
Have you tasted the R55-22? Why did you choose to plant that one ? Just curious- I also planted that out recently.
As far as a new planting, I would wait and plant out something that you have personally tried and like the most. There are going to be personal preferences in regards to flavor. There are also other factors such as size, ease of cleaning, latex level, color, etc.
We have some feedback from forum members regarding the quality of the jacks you mention.
Rob highly backs the Excalibur varieties, including new ones such as Excalibur Gold, Excalibur Red, etc. with some support from Sheehan. Other than that, we have very little end user opinion on the newer Excalibur varieties. The "older" Excalibur varieties such as the Mai's, Bangkok Lemon, Red morning, etc are well regarded by others as top end Jacks.
We have basically no evaluations of the newer PIN varieties as far as I know...
Black Gold x Tabouey is offered grafted by PIN. The only one I have tasted however is from Harry's seedling which may or may not be very similar to the grafted version. The seedling Harry has IMO is excellent, although is somewhat variable and not always at the top of its game.
J-31 I've eaten a seedling version which was very good
If we look at past experience with mango ratings on this forum, we find that most mango fanatics are in line with the flavor evaluations posted by Rob. Many here do not agree with mango ratings given by PIN. Given that, I tend to believe Rob when he gives an evaluation on fruit quality. I don't think you would be wrong to go with one of his recommendations.
If you have a lot of room, and plan on planting a number of trees, then choosing a few of the recommended and or new varieties may be a good plan ( I did it - I have a few planted out that I have never tried).
Any new information on this jackfruit?
I do not think I ever had this range of flower to nut.
Anybody want to guess the variety? It is unknown to me.
No problem! I am sure food does have something to do with it. Composting worms live near the top of soils and can consume foods high in nitrogen (like manure). Common Nightcrawlers / Earthworms (Lumbricus terrestris) burrow deep and I would suspect that they prefer a different food source, more likely more broken down (less nitrogren).
I don't know how much (or really if) they actually fight (no teeth or appendages) or how they determine each others territory. Yes, that would either be a really fascinating (worms fighting to the death) or really boring (worms bonking into eachother) National Geographic
Adam do you think the Grimal would do better on Florida's limestone sand than other jabos?
not exactly...the one at fruit and spice looks like it went through a meat grinder.
it would be best to get a one grafted onto Sabara.
but I'm sure you can keep a seedling Grimal happy...it just might take a bunch of chelated Fe.
Cool, then that would make the 3rd Red I have. My wife asked where I was going to plant them. I just shrugged and said 'somewhere'. Do we even think about that with our obsession? Got a couple whites, 4 or 5 sabara's (3 fruiting age). Now a Yellow. I guess blue is next. LOL. Wish me luck. My main problem is keeping fresh water on them. My only water sources are alkaline well water or rain. Too bad they aren't a little more drought friendly!
Your comparisons are not that great. Try comparing Haden, Hatcher, Kent and other "old classic" varieties to newer ones (it is not a new variety however I would place Mahachanok in the newer category as it has not been available in the United States for that long). There are also intermediate varieties, those that are not 100 years old but in between.
With the jackfruit, the Mais are relatively newer along with Bangkok Lemon, Excalibur Gold and Red, a new soon to be released red which may be the best red hands down. Red Morning/Daeng Suria is a classic variety that is outstanding. I wont comment on the newer PIN/Fairchild varieties because i dont think they are amongst the best by any means.
To respond to yoyr question, i feel the reason it seems many of the newer "named" varieties of their respective types of fruitscare better as that is what the "breeders" are trying to do, improve on what is available. What would be the piint in releasing what you knew was average or inferior?
Jackfruit and sapodilla can handle wetter conditions.
