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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Can I graft loquat on Apple ?
« on: May 02, 2016, 01:15:13 AM »
NO

Can The Dom graft loquat onto quince? hahaha

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit picture info
« on: May 02, 2016, 12:56:01 AM »


This is what I was thinking of. I have seen them with a grid background as well. I guess you just gather as many parts of the plant as you can. Fruit, leaves, seeds, flower.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Fruit picture info
« on: April 30, 2016, 05:40:36 PM »
What is the name of the pictures that have the fruit and leaves on a grid or some other type of measurement system? I think there are color spots as well. I would like to start taking fruit pictures of cultivars and would like to know if there are certain steps or features to make the photo legitimate for scientific research or cataloging.

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Very cool. How do I get in that seed room?? hahaha

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Can I graft loquat on Apple ?
« on: April 30, 2016, 05:14:45 PM »
But it is fun Dom.  ;)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Can I graft loquat on Apple ?
« on: April 30, 2016, 03:42:36 PM »
All of this sounds amazing. Stop giving me these Frankentree ideas. I get obsessed with these things. Now I have to go buy some quince seeds.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D So stoked.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Wildlife in your fruit trees ?
« on: April 29, 2016, 10:47:00 PM »
He is feeling all of the feels on this one.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Wildlife in your fruit trees ?
« on: April 29, 2016, 10:33:44 PM »
Blueberry buddy

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Forum Rules
« on: April 29, 2016, 10:24:52 PM »
Bahahahhahahahhahaa. Well that clears everything up.

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Flying Dragon Seedlings
« on: April 29, 2016, 01:09:32 PM »
Very interesting. If I posted a picture could you help differentiate my seedlings? I'll snap some later today.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Forum Rules
« on: April 29, 2016, 01:18:34 AM »
Thanks guys. Simple misunderstanding. I'm on here enough that I should know how to embed a video into the post.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: x
« on: April 29, 2016, 01:17:24 AM »
I was on my computer. The only thing that showed up was an ! and an message about it not being available in red. I saw that you had modified it so I figured that it wasn't allowed for some reason. I erased the post because it didn't make much sense without the context of the video. I tested the link before I posted it but I didn't know how to embed it.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Forum Rules
« on: April 28, 2016, 04:38:34 PM »
What are the rules for the forum? Are they listed somewhere? I couldn't find them in my searches. I posted a link to a youtube video about planting avocados on mounds last night and it got removed by a moderator. Links to websites seem ok. I have seen people share videos of yard tours. I have seen people share other peoples videos. Pictures are definitely allowed. I'm confused. Help me help myself follow the rules of the forum.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / x
« on: April 27, 2016, 11:33:54 PM »
x

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Drip irrigation/fertigation
« on: April 27, 2016, 11:29:04 PM »
This is a lot of help. Thanks guys.

@Mark in Texas The website is great. Do you use a sulfuric acid injector to lower pH as well or just run some though for cleaning? Thanks for the tips.

@Cookie Monster I wish I could. Most of my yard is planted out already. There are a few open spots I can really dig into and some trees I planted early on that I will try to transplant to more ideal spots. I don't have much room here. I ended up digging out about 40% under my jackfruit that was showing signs of what I thought was root rot or phytophtora. It was crazy. I had two big holes dug out and then used the auger sideways in the hole and was scraping away by hand. I felt like I was escaping from Alcatraz. I had a tunnel that connected the two holes below the roots and that muck held in place like a rock. I ended up filling it all in with pine fines, perlite, peat, the busted up stuff from the hole, and some biohar then I blasted through the rootzone above the fresh fill with a water hose attachment I built out of a 5 foot piece of 1/2 inch PVC to loosen up the root zone and blend it in. So far it looks ok and it is still holding it's fruit. Hopefully it takes off after it recovers. It was a test to see how far I could go. The last stuff I planted that I dug obscenely large holes for are looking great.

@Mr. Clean Those spray stakes look dummy proof. I will definitely be trialing some of those.

@goosteen That hose just has small holes in it right? Like drip tape that you lay it out and you don't have to add any emitters?

@Tropheus76 I am on a well. I would only run the lawn sprinklers out front on their own zone one day a week per regulation. Everything else I could customize to the needs of each tree with this new system. If you bought a tree from a nursery the taproot is worthless. You are better off chopping it out when you get the plant home in my opinion. I guarantee if you bring home any fruit tree from a nursery and you bare root it there will be a contorted root system in the shape of a 1 gal pot inside a contorted root system of a 3 gallon pot. You could dig a deep hole with a post hole digger or auger by your tree and fill it in making sure there aren't and obstructions and plant a seed. Make sure the seed was planted before it was oriented or the tap root will shoot out a different way other then down. Inarch graft that root system to the existing tree if you really want a taproot. Or you could just prep your planting mounds and plant seeds, wait for them to grow, then find budwood.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best cherry for south Florida
« on: April 26, 2016, 05:04:53 PM »
I just ate about 20 Zill Dark surinam cherries. They were amazing. Just a tinge of resin flavor that was very enjoyable. My grumichamas are holding fruit right now. I am excited to try those for the first time. My Barbados Cherry beautiful, has a medicinal dose of vitamin C, and is a heavy producer but the Zill Dark blew it away taste wise. I haven't tried any of the improved barbados cultivars like "Florida Sweet". Both Florida Sweet and Thai are listed on the Excalibur website. Maybe Rob can let us know which one is better. I will definitely be picking up a COTRG soon. Has anyone seen capulin in Florida?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My first Maprang ripe off the tree!
« on: April 25, 2016, 08:43:06 PM »
Very nice Raul. I just purchased some maprang and mayang chid seeds and they arrived today.

Where did you order from?

Genesis

Awesome! Mine were all rotten when I got them. They were from a different seller. These will fruit in Florida. I haven't given up the search yet. I think I am done ordering seeds from SE Asia and Indonesia for a while. I would probably be better off setting up seed trays and flying over there myself to send them back.
http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=17599.msg244338#msg244338

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Drip irrigation/fertigation
« on: April 25, 2016, 08:36:07 PM »
Well the ants sound like a real PITA. I might have to really bump up my boric acid ant baits around the yard. Thanks for the comments.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My first Maprang ripe off the tree!
« on: April 25, 2016, 12:30:33 PM »
 ;D !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
CONGRATS!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Drip irrigation/fertigation
« on: April 25, 2016, 10:57:24 AM »
Thank you all for the responses. Part of the reason I am doing this is because I have an almost hardpan layer 6-8 inches down that goes to about 2.5 - 3 feet. I finally realized that my house was built on "sawgrass muck". It is real dark and really compacted old swamp lakebed but just below that is a very distinct change to bright white virgin well draining sand.

I bought a gas powered auger and an extension bit to bust everything up. I want to remove the existing sprinkler lines so I don't have to worry about drilling through them when I am working. Luckily the last 20% of trees I put in I already dug out "burying a body" sized holes, got through that layer, and amended with pine fines and perlite. It will be so nice to know exactly where everything is buried and have it customized.

I also have watering restrictions with the county for 1 day a week so I will link all of the grass zone sprinklers out front to one zone and keep the basic pop up sprinklers in there. The rest I should be able to dial in however I want.

There isn't any grass to mow around the planted area so it is looking like I will just put hose bibs around the yard to hook up the irrigation tubing which can run above ground. The mulch or perennial peanut/sunshine mimosa ground cover can cover it up. Maybe I will put in an optional valved bypass at the beginning of each zone or just after the pump/in front of the valves to hook up a small fertigation tank? A separate zoned hose bib line in different locations for a garden hose hook up?

My irrigation is hooked up to a well with a submersible pump.  I don't have a bladder tank or an above ground pump with a pressure switch. I have a sprinkler control box with different zones that tells the valve to open and the relay to kick on the pump. The house is on city water so the well is for irrigation only. I remember my dad telling me he got an "extra deep well" put in. Do I need an inline filter for the micro sprinklers?

Here is the guts of the system.

Well with submersed pump


Relay


Controller


I figured I would just move all of the valves close to the pump in a single manifold. Right now they are spread all over the yard. Seems strange but maybe there is a reason for it.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Drip irrigation/fertigation
« on: April 24, 2016, 09:42:08 PM »
I am ripping out my current sprinkler system that was set up for grass and replacing it with micro sprinklers or drip or both. Where is the best place to purchase? Are there certain brands that you guys and gals like prefer? I was thinking a few adjustable microsprinklers on each tree so get a good deep soak. I am probably going to get some sort of fertigation hooked up as well at some point. This is my first go with the stuff so any info or first hand experience is appreciated. This is for a "normal" sized subdivision lot.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Persimmon tree problem
« on: April 24, 2016, 09:17:35 AM »
HAHAHA

Is perennial peanut a nitrogen fixating plant like sunshine mimosa? I'm thinking on replacing the grass and weeds I have in my back yard with perennial peanut or sunshine mimosa. Having to rip out the st. augustine grass away from my mango trees is getting old.

Speaking of perennial peanut, I bought a tray of it today from Nu Turf, Pompano, for $25.  40 plants.  To cover an area of about 8 feet by 18 feet alongside my driveway.  I wanted to plant pineapple and banana plants there, but my wife said she would divorce me if I did.  I did manage to sneak in one cactus for the fruit.

hahahaha. I keep sneaking in more and more plants all over. I'm at my Mom's house. I think the poor woman has been planted into submission and is finally starting to embrace it. It seems like I'm always the asshole until the fruit starts coming in or they read about chemical intensive farming.

That is really cheap for that try of perennial peanut. There are some different named and unnamed types with different growth habits. The "Ecoturf" spreads underground and the other trays I bought from the native nursery run above the soil line.

Both the Sunshine Mimosa and Perennial Peanut are nitrogen fixing. The reason Florida made that Florida Friendly law about turf replacement is because they require much less fertilizer and are very drought tolerant.

I agree that mulch is supreme if you are living on sand. I found out that I have a deep "sawgrass muck" layer because my house was built on drained swamp that was later used to grow celery in the 1930s and 1940s. I have been busting up this impermeable 2-3 foot layer so I can fix my drainage and get back to heavy mulching. The peanut does well with mulch. Weeding can be a pain but I am trying to get both growth habits of peanut and mimosa spread around together and hopefully that will create a nice nitrogen fixing/weed choking mat. It looks really cool too.

I just realized this thread got hijacked but my beyond organic extremist two cents on the persimmon tree would be stop using toxic chemicals altogether because I see this persimmon tree as the canary in the coal mine for the entire ecosystem and feed the soil, not the tree.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Persimmon tree problem
« on: April 22, 2016, 01:28:17 PM »
By law you are allowed to replace your lawns in the HOA community with perennial peanut and sunshine mimosa. I haven't been that ballsy yet and I keep a small manicured lawn out front to keep the curb appeal. Perennial peanut and sunshine mimosa are all over the sides and backyard to satisfy the amount of turf I am supposed to have according to the bylaws. Luckily they are pretty chill here if you keep up the basics so I don't want to start any problems until they come to me.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Giant Loquats
« on: April 22, 2016, 10:12:06 AM »
Isn't XMAS a popular cultivar mainly for the extra early ripening?

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