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Title: Brazilian producers have been celebrating the famous Adalgiza avocado.
Post by: Mark in Texas on April 13, 2017, 09:56:55 AM
Brazilian producers have been celebrating - the famous Adalgiza avocado, a local favourite, has been officially recognized as an avocado variety. The main differences between this variety and the Hass are: the shape of the trees, (the Adalgiza grows inside the treetop where it is better protected than the Hass avocado), the shape of the fruits, (which are more rounded), and the taste and texture (the Adalgiza is more buttery and less fibrous). 

http://www.freshplaza.com/article/173493/Brazil-The-Adalgiza-Avocado-new-variety-is-officially-recognized (http://www.freshplaza.com/article/173493/Brazil-The-Adalgiza-Avocado-new-variety-is-officially-recognized)
Title: Re: Brazilian producers have been celebrating the famous Adalgiza avocado.
Post by: Mark in Texas on April 13, 2017, 09:59:18 AM
Anyone know the genetics of this cross?
Title: Re: Brazilian producers have been celebrating the famous Adalgiza avocado.
Post by: vlan1 on April 13, 2017, 10:58:33 AM
How long before you track down budwood to add to your Frankencado tree?
Title: Re: Brazilian producers have been celebrating the famous Adalgiza avocado.
Post by: behlgarden on April 13, 2017, 11:11:19 AM
Anyone know the genetics of this cross?

interesting
Title: Re: Brazilian producers have been celebrating the famous Adalgiza avocado.
Post by: ScottR on April 13, 2017, 11:36:06 AM
Very interesting indeed, we need a adventurous young person to go hunt this avocado down ;) 8)Thanks for sharing Mark!
Title: Re: Brazilian producers have been celebrating the famous Adalgiza avocado.
Post by: Mark in Texas on April 13, 2017, 02:31:58 PM
How long before you track down budwood to add to your Frankencado tree?

Carlos?   :D  If anybody has it he does.

Hass marketing ass kicker? Fellas, they said the same thing about Gwen which was not accepted by the public cause it didn't turn black.  if this isn't an Afrocado it won't sell well.

Speaking of my Frankencado, here's some of the fruit I've been pulling  (tree is only on 2nd leaf).  Every variety is loaded.  This is Sir Prize.  More I research this variety the more excited I am about it.  for example - http://www.specialtyproduce.com/produce/Sir_Prize_Avocados_12030.php (http://www.specialtyproduce.com/produce/Sir_Prize_Avocados_12030.php)

(https://s30.postimg.cc/crmy2z559/Sir_Prize_April.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/crmy2z559/)
Title: Re: Brazilian producers have been celebrating the famous Adalgiza avocado.
Post by: CTMIAMI on April 13, 2017, 10:13:19 PM
I never heard of it. If it is related to Hass will not grow well here
Title: Re: Brazilian producers have been celebrating the famous Adalgiza avocado.
Post by: prix.rezende on June 17, 2018, 10:46:35 AM
The Adalgiza variety was developed on my father's farm and we have the worldwide patent. The variety showed numerous characteristics superior to Hass, such as shape, content of pulp, precocity and so on.
(https://s22.postimg.cc/hdg7lu665/Capturar.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/hdg7lu665/)
Title: Re: Brazilian producers have been celebrating the famous Adalgiza avocado.
Post by: BestDay on June 17, 2018, 11:18:35 AM
my gosh, that is a small seed!
Title: Re: Brazilian producers have been celebrating the famous Adalgiza avocado.
Post by: ScottR on June 17, 2018, 11:32:45 AM
The Adalgiza variety was developed on my father's farm and we have the worldwide patent. The variety showed numerous characteristics superior to Hass, such as shape, content of pulp, precocity and so on.
(https://s22.postimg.cc/hdg7lu665/Capturar.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/hdg7lu665/)
Can you confirm the parentage of this variety Guatemalan crossed with ? or was it a sport of your Fathers tree's? 
Title: Re: Brazilian producers have been celebrating the famous Adalgiza avocado.
Post by: joehewitt on June 17, 2018, 01:58:51 PM
This is Sir Prize.  More I research this variety the more excited I am about it.

Sir Prize is a good early season avocado, covering the gap in spring before Hass arrives. I was buying them at the local farmers market a while back and grew quite fond of them, but they are a second tier avo for me because fat content is not their strong point. What I liked as the unusual golden color of the flesh and the fact that it would not oxidize no matter how long I left it on the counter.
Title: Re: Brazilian producers have been celebrating the famous Adalgiza avocado.
Post by: zands on June 17, 2018, 02:37:35 PM
This is Sir Prize.  More I research this variety the more excited I am about it.

Sir Prize is a good early season avocado, covering the gap in spring before Hass arrives. I was buying them at the local farmers market a while back and grew quite fond of them, but they are a second tier avo for me because fat content is not their strong point. What I liked as the unusual golden color of the flesh and the fact that it would not oxidize no matter how long I left it on the counter.


I may be mistaken but I have seen Sir Prize photos here where it is dwarfish and heavily laden. It might have been in a container. Is this the case? At least in California?
Title: Re: Brazilian producers have been celebrating the famous Adalgiza avocado.
Post by: prix.rezende on June 17, 2018, 05:18:30 PM
my gosh, that is a small seed!

Yes  8)
Title: Re: Brazilian producers have been celebrating the famous Adalgiza avocado.
Post by: prix.rezende on June 17, 2018, 05:21:53 PM
The Adalgiza variety was developed on my father's farm and we have the worldwide patent. The variety showed numerous characteristics superior to Hass, such as shape, content of pulp, precocity and so on.
(https://s22.postimg.cc/hdg7lu665/Capturar.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/hdg7lu665/)
Can you confirm the parentage of this variety Guatemalan crossed with ? or was it a sport of your Fathers tree's?

This variety has no kinship with Guatemalan and is not sport of my father's tree, we cultivated the variety 20 years ago on our farm.
Title: Re: Brazilian producers have been celebrating the famous Adalgiza avocado.
Post by: Mark in Texas on June 17, 2018, 05:28:12 PM
This variety has no kinship with Guatemalan and is not sport of my father's tree, we cultivated the variety 20 years ago on our farm.

Well, doesn't look like it has W. Indies either.   If it's patented you must have some info on the parentage via DNA flags?

Stunning fruit BTW!
Title: Re: Brazilian producers have been celebrating the famous Adalgiza avocado.
Post by: JF on June 17, 2018, 08:14:02 PM
Those look like hass with a small Pickering seeds. I hope this doesnt turn out like another Ardith
(https://s15.postimg.cc/6fv7xcgav/22_C31_B2_B-_A95_E-4957-85_F6-3_B7_A86_A70_E46.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6fv7xcgav/)

(https://s15.postimg.cc/9zh5n5bav/4_A3_BFB53-_E485-4151-_AB2_D-0574_FDACB681.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/9zh5n5bav/)
Title: Re: Brazilian producers have been celebrating the famous Adalgiza avocado.
Post by: spaugh on June 17, 2018, 11:17:25 PM
This is Sir Prize.  More I research this variety the more excited I am about it.

Sir Prize is a good early season avocado, covering the gap in spring before Hass arrives. I was buying them at the local farmers market a while back and grew quite fond of them, but they are a second tier avo for me because fat content is not their strong point. What I liked as the unusual golden color of the flesh and the fact that it would not oxidize no matter how long I left it on the counter.

Probably got ones picked too early.  They get really dense and oily here around May.  If they were grown up north I would expect not to really be ready until July or later.

I let a few hang until June this year and they were amazing.  Skin should be black when they are still hard to know when to pick.
Title: Re: Brazilian producers have been celebrating the famous Adalgiza avocado.
Post by: Finca La Isla on June 18, 2018, 09:07:16 AM
What is the ideal growing condition for the Adalgiza avocado?  How about some more detailed information to help promote the patented material.
Peter
Title: Re: Brazilian producers have been celebrating the famous Adalgiza avocado.
Post by: prix.rezende on June 18, 2018, 11:36:54 AM
This variety has no kinship with Guatemalan and is not sport of my father's tree, we cultivated the variety 20 years ago on our farm.

Well, doesn't look like it has W. Indies either.   If it's patented you must have some info on the parentage via DNA flags?

Stunning fruit BTW!

Adalgiza has Hass as an upward, but has the spherical shape, less fibers, buttery flavor, smaller seed and more pulp. Thank you!
Title: Re: Brazilian producers have been celebrating the famous Adalgiza avocado.
Post by: prix.rezende on June 18, 2018, 11:40:23 AM
What is the ideal growing condition for the Adalgiza avocado?  How about some more detailed information to help promote the patented material.
Peter

The Adalgiza was only grown on my father's farm, where the climate is "cerrado". The farm is at high altitude and the climate is dry and mild most of the year. This year we have already reaped the fruits. We will test the variety in other countries to evaluate the commercial potential. Thank you!
Title: Re: Brazilian producers have been celebrating the famous Adalgiza avocado.
Post by: spaugh on June 18, 2018, 12:07:06 PM
This variety has no kinship with Guatemalan and is not sport of my father's tree, we cultivated the variety 20 years ago on our farm.

Well, doesn't look like it has W. Indies either.   If it's patented you must have some info on the parentage via DNA flags?

Stunning fruit BTW!

Adalgiza has Hass as an upward, but has the spherical shape, less fibers, buttery flavor, smaller seed and more pulp. Thank you!

Sounds like it would grow ok in CA.

Can you post some photos of the trees and the new flushes up close?
Title: Re: Brazilian producers have been celebrating the famous Adalgiza avocado.
Post by: prix.rezende on August 10, 2018, 03:59:00 PM
(https://s22.postimg.cc/pe2f3k5jx/Water_Mark_2018-08-10-16-49-57.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/pe2f3k5jx/)