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Title: Quickest producers from seed?
Post by: DSotM on August 17, 2018, 02:40:40 PM
I know Jamaican cherry and moringa both produce under 2 years. Are there any others with similar, quick production?
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Post by: RodneyS on August 17, 2018, 05:31:23 PM
Papaya
Tamarillo
Goldenberries aka Cape Gooseberries
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Post by: shinzo on August 17, 2018, 08:44:50 PM
Passionfruit
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Post by: coconut rancher on August 18, 2018, 02:53:31 PM
Papaya. I have Papayas up to 14" long planted less than a year ago from seed. South Florida - 10b
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Post by: DSotM on August 18, 2018, 03:44:32 PM
Thanks guys. How about woody trees? I’m growing papaya and golden berries. Any tips on encouraging golden berry flowering?
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Post by: barath on August 18, 2018, 04:04:18 PM
You can get white sapote fruit in 2.5 years if you grow a really vigorous (large seed) seedling and a year in graft it to Vernon, which I've seen set fruit a year after grafting.
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Post by: Chupa King on August 18, 2018, 04:19:09 PM
Cacao, Malabar Chestnut, Rollinia, most Eugenia.
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Post by: Stevo on August 18, 2018, 05:36:38 PM
Some jaboticaba can fruit in 3 years or less
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Post by: Ulfr on August 18, 2018, 06:18:58 PM
Jackfruit is quick too. Mine are flowering at 3 years and that’s with cutting back every year.

Edit: maybe not in your climate. Mulberry for sure.
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Post by: Guanabanus on August 18, 2018, 10:29:55 PM
Sugar-Apples can fruit in 2-and-a-half years, but usually in 3 1/2.

Dwarf Ambarella also.
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Post by: Botanicus on August 20, 2018, 08:43:48 AM
Spondias dulcis will go from seed to producing fruit within a year.
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Post by: DSotM on August 20, 2018, 09:26:48 AM
Thank you botanicus and guanabus  that’s exactly the type of thing I’m looking for. Do you have a recommended seed seller?

Ulfr, thanks. I’m testing my zone luck and have a couple seedlings in ground.

Chupa, I realized that my houseplant was a Malabar chestnut so I put it in ground just last week. Thanks! I’ll check your other suggestions.
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Post by: Future on August 20, 2018, 07:11:44 PM
I have two black Sapote that produced in 4 years.
Title: Re: Quickest producers from seed?
Post by: DSotM on August 21, 2018, 12:28:42 AM
Thank you. Unfortunately 4 years from seed is a bit long, and I’ve heard that black sapote isn’t too great of a fruit.

Thank you for all your responses so far.

I’m very excited about June plum. A local Asian grocer has them in stock so I’ll try germinating some asap. Fruit under a year is remarkable!
Title: Re: Quickest producers from seed?
Post by: Guanabanus on August 21, 2018, 10:32:57 AM
ONLY Dwarf June-Plum fruit right away, and in a 3-gallon pot.  Regular June-Plums get huge fast, and fruit after 4-6 years.
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Post by: DSotM on August 21, 2018, 12:44:28 PM
Any way to tell the difference between dwarf and regular June plum fruits?
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Post by: Guanabanus on August 21, 2018, 01:49:20 PM
Dwarf ones are small.
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Post by: Doug on August 22, 2018, 12:29:15 AM
ONLY Dwarf June-Plum fruit right away, and in a 3-gallon pot.  Regular June-Plums get huge fast, and fruit after 4-6 years.

I'm glad you posted this. I was concerned because my "regular" June Plum is four ears old, five or six meters high and no fruit. I had read they fruit at one or two years old and thought something was wrong with mine. LOL
Title: Re: Quickest producers from seed?
Post by: Doug on August 22, 2018, 12:43:31 AM

How about other "tropical cherry" plants....like Barbados and del Rio Grande? Savannah Cherry, too?
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Post by: HibachiDrama on August 22, 2018, 09:27:18 AM
Also see this thread from earlier this year:

http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=26426.msg307097#msg307097 (http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=26426.msg307097#msg307097)
Title: Re: Quickest producers from seed?
Post by: BrianL on August 22, 2018, 02:00:34 PM
If your thinking Black Sapote isn't great I wouldn't be getting too excited abut June Plum.
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Post by: EvilFruit on August 22, 2018, 02:51:42 PM
For me. June plum taste like green/unripe mango. I really like it.

Spondias purpurea, is also a fast producer but you need to propagate it from a cutting.
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Post by: Berto on August 22, 2018, 08:35:21 PM
Abiu (Pouteria caimito).
I grow 3 different abiu  seedlings, and one of them fruited in 3 years. The  other two fruited in 4 years from seed.
The one that  fruited in 3 years is a seedling from an Australian variety called  Z4.
 Now I grow variety #1; variety # 2; and variety # 4.
All of them are very large and sweet fruits. Number 1 is the most productive, and number 4 has a thicker skin and a longer shelf life.
Abiu is a fantastic fruit that  adapted quite well to Southwest Florida. I would recommend to grow at least 2 trees side by side for cross pollination.
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Post by: shafak on August 23, 2018, 10:30:18 AM
Peanut butter fruit (Bunchosia glandulifera)?
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Post by: miked on August 23, 2018, 10:33:53 AM
Eugenia pitanga (dwarf pitanga) is supposed to be a great container fruit that is supposed to fruit within the first year or so.

Lots of Eugenia's fruit in under 4 years from seed.
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Post by: DSotM on August 23, 2018, 01:52:18 PM
Thank you all for the continued suggestions. I love the idea of Surinam cherry...although opinions on the taste seem to be disappointing. For that reason I’ve decided to avoid it. I’ll look into pb tree
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Post by: Aina Exotics on August 23, 2018, 09:24:27 PM
poha
mulberry
naranjilla
cocona

as for taste of suriname cherry they can be bad but I have a 2 year old zill seedling that when bordering overipe tasts like mango peach cherries and has a truly amazing level 5 flavor)
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Post by: DSotM on August 24, 2018, 09:18:38 AM
Aina, I’d like a clone. That sounds marvelous haha!
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Post by: Bush2Beach on August 24, 2018, 01:20:58 PM
Plant in the shade or North facing.
What Papaya are growing in Fresno, How old?


Thanks guys. How about woody trees? I’m growing papaya and golden berries. Any tips on encouraging golden berry flowering?
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Post by: Bush2Beach on August 24, 2018, 01:27:21 PM
Suriname Cherry and C.O.R.G. could work.
Many of the suggestions are coming from area's with much higher nighttime winter temperatures , so take some suggestions with a grain of salt unless you have a humongous greenhouse.
THere's a couple Central Valley rare fruiters on the forum that could give good suggestions on what has actually worked for them in a similar climate.
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Post by: DSotM on August 25, 2018, 12:39:05 AM
Plant in the shade or North facing.
What Papaya are growing in Fresno, How old?


Thanks guys. How about woody trees? I’m growing papaya and golden berries. Any tips on encouraging golden berry flowering?

I’ve got a 1 year old babaco and a 6 month old babaco. Many are growing papaya in Phoenix at same zone
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Post by: fliptop on October 11, 2020, 06:26:55 AM
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Post by: Mike T on October 11, 2020, 07:00:55 AM
If we are ruling out stuff like melons,bananas and tomatoes and talking trees fruits not many can do it in 3 years. Dwarf ambarella can, scarlet jabs can, sometimes jackfruit can.
Title: Re: Quickest producers from seed?
Post by: Stevo on October 11, 2020, 07:06:51 AM
I have a scarlet jabotacaba which fruited in 980 days and have seen pitangatuba that
fruited in 18 months
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Post by: fliptop on October 11, 2020, 07:07:37 AM
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Post by: EddieF on October 11, 2020, 08:14:18 AM
Seeing this thread's 2yrs old, how did you guys do? 
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Post by: Jaboticaba45 on October 11, 2020, 04:24:05 PM
Strawberry tree fruits in about 1 year from seed, although cuttings root and fruit faster.
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Post by: fliptop on October 11, 2020, 04:52:16 PM
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Post by: Mike T on October 12, 2020, 05:44:36 AM
Great insight there Flip. I think the winner would be some precocious dwarf ambarellas. Didn't Rhianna sing a song about this fruit?
Title: Re: Quickest producers from seed?
Post by: fliptop on October 12, 2020, 07:40:54 AM
Probably the wisest stuff I've ever said, Mike T.

I had initially asked about Dwarf Ambarella here, but the question was getting lost in the shuffle, so I removed my posts here and started the new thread. My apologies and if I could remove the posts altogether, I would.
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Post by: Odenwald on October 12, 2020, 02:53:18 PM
While cuttings are always quicker to fruit and will be truer to the parent, the following can fruit in a couple of years:  cocoplum, noni, seagrape.
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Post by: palingkecil on October 12, 2020, 08:11:15 PM
Jamaican cherry AKA Mutingia Calabura. From seed to fruit in one year. Very vigorous and could be invasive.
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Post by: Mike T on October 19, 2020, 06:34:55 PM

(https://i.postimg.cc/BXLW28Y0/Bilimbi-5-weeks-flowering.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/BXLW28Y0)
A new champion has emerged. Seeds from my bilimbi tree fruit planted 5 weeks ago produced a super precocious individual.
Title: Re: Quickest producers from seed?
Post by: DSotM on October 21, 2020, 12:27:25 PM
I've had some papaya fruit within a year but have trouble keeping them healthy in the winter. They seem to develop rot around their leaf scars, but I have some that are a couple years old. Jamaican cherry fruits quickly. I ripped it out of the ground before testing its cold tolerance but it did get frosted leaves at 35 degrees so im not sure if it would have survived - but I wasn't thrilled with the fruit or look of the tree. Ambarella true to its reputation fruited extremely fast.