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Title: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: Cookie Monster on December 28, 2016, 11:15:17 AM
We're supposed to hit lows in the low 50's this week! This should be sufficient to induce bloom on the holdouts.

https://weather.com/weather/5day/l/33321:4:US
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: mangokothiyan on December 28, 2016, 08:49:01 PM


That is great news!!!
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: mangomongo on December 28, 2016, 08:55:12 PM
It still seems a little early, Is that going to be a good thing?
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: Cookie Monster on December 28, 2016, 09:22:19 PM
Dec / Jan is not early for mango bloom in South Florida. In most years here, bloom starts in mid to late Nov and ends in early Mar.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: mangokothiyan on December 28, 2016, 09:41:51 PM
 
Ugly Betty  is always the first to bloom in my yard. This year, NDM #4 followed it, late in November. I also have Carrie, Cac and Sweet Tart flowering. The other trees are all dormant.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: Cookie Monster on January 01, 2017, 02:30:05 PM
Looks like we have another potential Bloom Fair fly over: https://weather.com/weather/tenday/l/33321:4:US

This is looking to be better than last year where our chill came super late.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: bsbullie on January 01, 2017, 06:55:25 PM
Looks like we have another potential Bloom Fair fly over: https://weather.com/weather/tenday/l/33321:4:US

This is looking to be better than last year where our chill came super late.

Hope the rain holds off, currently showing at 60%, on those 2 cool evenings.  Wet, cool/cold nights are not a good set up...
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: savemejebus on January 01, 2017, 07:15:13 PM
I'm apparently blind. Walked around the yard a couple days ago and convinced myself that nothing was anywhere near flowering. Yesterday I'm outside with the wife and she's pointing out the flowers on the coconut cream, angie, and rosigold... all of which are in my face and totally not hidden. Time to check the prescription on my glasses.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: Cookie Monster on January 01, 2017, 08:55:36 PM
This last cold snap should give us some nice blooms in the next couple of weeks. The little bit of bloom that we're seeing now is from that cold snap we had around the 3rd or 4th week of Nov.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: mangomongo on January 02, 2017, 06:18:09 PM
I have a nube question. Should I throw a little 0-0-60 around the trees to help them flower/ push fruit.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: Cookie Monster on January 02, 2017, 06:41:59 PM
It wouldn't hurt. Personally, I never saw much benefit in using pure potassium. I once used it on the recommendation of Dr Richard Campbell, but I found that getting an exceptional mango crop requires:

 - Application of micronutrients 2 or 3 times per year: zinc, manganese, iron, boron, copper, etc
 - Application of a high potassium analysis, slow release fertilizer with phosphorus and magnesium, once in the fall and again in the spring. I really like Har's new Fruitilzer formulation, which is a 0-3-16 with minors and slow release K.
 - Application of gypsum with the high-K fertilizer. This depends on soil conditions, but gypsum will stave off internal breakdown and help to increase brix. Deep sand and high organic content soils can benefit from gypsum.
 - Fungicide if inland.

Lately, I've also been experimenting with potassium nitrate, which is supposed to increase fruit set and retention.

TLDR; version: Potassium by itself is unlikely to be very beneficial unless that's the only nutrient that your soil is lacking in (unlikely). You want to start your fertilization regimen in the fall so that your trees have a bank of nutrients in the leaves by the time bloom starts.

I have a nube question. Should I throw a little 0-0-60 around the trees to help them flower/ push fruit.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: LarryG on January 03, 2017, 10:10:07 PM
The cool weather (and the potash) seems to work for me with my lychees. My biggest Hak Ip and Sweetheart trees put on a nice bloom set just before Christmas. I took this photo this afternoon of my 15 year old Sweetheart.
(https://s30.postimg.org/w3ofil625/IMG_2140.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/w3ofil625/)
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: bsbullie on January 03, 2017, 10:33:40 PM
The cool weather (and the potash) seems to work for me with my lychees. My biggest Hak Ip and Sweetheart trees put on a nice bloom set just before Christmas. I took this photo this afternoon of my 15 year old Sweetheart.
(https://s30.postimg.org/w3ofil625/IMG_2140.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/w3ofil625/)

Very nice, Larry.  Your Sweethearts are usually of excellent quality.

How are the mangoea doing?
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: Cookie Monster on January 03, 2017, 11:39:57 PM
My sweetheart is blooming too! It's turning out to be a better bloomer than my mauritius.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: bsbullie on January 03, 2017, 11:48:07 PM
My sweetheart is blooming too! It's turning out to be a better bloomer than my mauritius.

With Sweetheart's superior quality,  that is a good thing. 
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: JonathonForester on January 04, 2017, 09:40:54 AM
I'm seeing heavy mango blooms from St Pete south to Sarasota at least.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: Cookie Monster on January 04, 2017, 10:49:18 AM
Yep. The quality of my sweetheart harvest last year was off the charts.

Looks like we have several nights worth of bloom inducing temps ahead!!

https://weather.com/weather/tenday/l/33321:4:US

My sweetheart is blooming too! It's turning out to be a better bloomer than my mauritius.

With Sweetheart's superior quality,  that is a good thing.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: puglvr1 on January 04, 2017, 11:59:06 AM


My Mauritius is blooming but its definitely a "mixed" bloom, lots of leaves mixed in the blooms.

My only blooming mango tree is (1) of my Cogshall, I have 2 but only one is blooming. Nothing on one potted  and one inground Glenn, Keitt, one Cogshall and Maha. I hope I get some on the others soon. I have some cold nights coming later this weekend.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: Carbo on January 04, 2017, 04:00:39 PM
My Cogshall is as dormant as Rip Van Winkle; my Pickering, (second year in ground from a 3 gallon pot), sent up one pannicle about a month ago and looks like it's getting ready to send up a few more.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: Jani on January 04, 2017, 05:11:17 PM
All's really quiet on my end ....
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: savemejebus on January 04, 2017, 05:55:21 PM
looks like my cogshall will be next to join the bloom party. NDM had the swillen buds of a drunk teenager at prom over the last month but has yet to push pannicles up.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: Cookie Monster on January 04, 2017, 06:20:32 PM
The bloom party is going to kick off in a week or two. We've got a few more nights in the 50's ahead of us! We could even get some good lychee bloom down here in Broward.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: edzone9 on January 04, 2017, 07:40:38 PM
This Sunday 46f in my area .

Mango trees in Bloom :
Pickering-Frances Hargrave .

Ed
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: LarryG on January 04, 2017, 10:27:49 PM
The cool weather (and the potash) seems to work for me with my lychees. My biggest Hak Ip and Sweetheart trees put on a nice bloom set just before Christmas. I took this photo this afternoon of my 15 year old Sweetheart.
(https://s30.postimg.org/w3ofil625/IMG_2140.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/w3ofil625/)

Very nice, Larry.  Your Sweethearts are usually of excellent quality.

How are the mangoea doing?

Rob, my mango trees are doing well, most are in their second season at my new property. Here's a photo of a few trees I got from either you or Walter, all were planted summer of 2015. From left, Providence, Pickering, Angie, and Maha Chanok. The Maha's growth was stunted because I allowed 13 fruit to ripen in 2016 (they were small but delicious). The bloom on these trees is completely unaffected by Anthracnose so far. I also have good bloom set on my Nam Doc Mai, Lemon Zest, Edward, Dot, Pina Colada and Okrung. All of these have varying degrees of Anthracnose damage, the Pina Colada being the worst.
~ Larry G
(https://s30.postimg.org/5wcofblsd/IMG_2145.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/5wcofblsd/)
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: zands on January 05, 2017, 09:55:24 AM
Pina Colada has tiny mangoes forming if you look closely at large version of photo. Some of the upper branches were cut back 4 weeks ago and still put out panicles.

(https://s27.postimg.org/gdspfs5n3/IMG_0392.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/gdspfs5n3/)

(https://s27.postimg.org/m38y03btb/IMG_0393.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/m38y03btb/)

All other mango tree are asleep except for an NDM trying to push
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: Cookie Monster on January 05, 2017, 11:15:30 AM
Looks like you got some fruit set on the pina colada. How has production been on yours?
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: zands on January 05, 2017, 06:56:53 PM
Looks like you got some fruit set on the pina colada. How has production been on yours?

You asked what I omitted. Nice bloom but zero fruit production last year 2016. iirc not even any tiny bb size fruits formed to later fall off due to fungus or whatever. Which I think is part of the reason it is doing so well so early this year. But in 2015 good production of small and delicious fruits.

Last year with no fruiting it grew more than ever before
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: Cookie Monster on January 05, 2017, 07:30:57 PM
OK. Last year was a bad year in general for mangoes. Rain at the wrong time.

Looks like you got some fruit set on the pina colada. How has production been on yours?

You asked what I omitted. Nice bloom but zero fruit production last year 2016. iirc not even any tiny bb size fruits formed to later fall off due to fungus or whatever. Which I think is part of the reason it is doing so well so early this year. But in 2015 good production of small and delicious fruits.

Last year with no fruiting it grew more than ever before
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: amberroses on January 21, 2017, 05:34:58 PM
My pina colada is the same way. It had massive blooming last year, but only a few fruit set which later fell off. I was ok with that because it was only on its second year. This year, again, it has beautiful massive flowering, but only a couple of tiny fruitlets. It isn't poor pollination or disease, there are no female flowers. I'm wondering if this is just some age related hormonal issue for the tree, or can I expect to be frustrated and disappointed by this tree every year?
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: bsbullie on January 21, 2017, 05:54:34 PM
Yesterday,  the forecast showed the lows in the upper 40s here for mid to late week this upcoming week.  Now it has been pushed back to end of next weekend and overall, the lows are trending a little warmer.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: Cookie Monster on January 21, 2017, 07:06:52 PM
Yep, but it looks like we have a solid block of a week or more with lows in the 50's. I'm starting to get a second wave of blooming here, and my lychees are looking like they will put out a bloom this year.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: bsbullie on January 21, 2017, 07:15:24 PM
Yep, but it looks like we have a solid block of a week or more with lows in the 50's. I'm starting to get a second wave of blooming here, and my lychees are looking like they will put out a bloom this year.

Yeah, comsistent lows from low to upper 50s for the next week plus.

My LZ which has been a reliable fruiter the last 2 years does not even have any bud swell yet.  Peach Cobbler and NDM  the same.  Coconut Cream,  which usually throws tons of blooms has only thrown about a 33% of normal bloom amount so far...hopefully this cold snap tyrns them on.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: fisherking73 on January 26, 2017, 09:25:56 PM
Still nuffin by me...........boooooooooooooooo
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: Cookie Monster on January 27, 2017, 12:58:43 PM
Several of my trees are just starting on a second bloom: carrie, pickering, sunrise, sweet tart, coco cream, ... lots of swollen buds on the rest.

Coco cream is a funny one; it will bloom on unhardened / near-red-stage leaves. Only tree in my collection that does this.

We've got a 5 day block of low temps ahead of us, including 2 nights in the mid to high 40's.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: skhan on January 31, 2017, 11:02:41 AM
Well if this recent weather doesn't induce my NMD or Cogshall (my biggest trees), I give up
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: mangokothiyan on January 31, 2017, 12:34:55 PM

Starting to see second bloom on my Carrie, Lemon Meringue and Ugly Betty. The rest are yet to wake up, not even showing signs of it.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: Squam256 on January 31, 2017, 12:59:40 PM
The bloom will come, just give it some more weeks. We have one more night in the 50s tonight.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: Cookie Monster on January 31, 2017, 01:11:58 PM
OK. So, we should end up with 3 asynchronous blooms this season.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: FruitFreak on January 31, 2017, 03:00:58 PM
Got down to low 40's in Naples.  Temp said 43 at 7:30am.  That should definitely fire up the bloom fairy on some of the trees around here.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: Jani on January 31, 2017, 06:53:20 PM
i have no doubt my mango blooms will come, not worried about that..more importantly (and more variable) is that my lychees have remained dormant all fall and winter so far and luckily didnt wake up during the warm december...so i can only hope these recent chills spell good things for my lychees whenever they wake up.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: FruitFreak on February 05, 2017, 10:44:38 AM
Reporting that my Florigon is now loaded with blooms and some fruit set from earlier.  Same for sweet tart.  Fairchild is starting to show at tips. It looks like the last little cold front had an effect.  The temps dipped down into the low 40s.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: Cookie Monster on February 05, 2017, 02:45:11 PM
The blooms are starting at my place. This hot weather after the cold spell seems to be driving out the blooms.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: shot on February 05, 2017, 04:41:20 PM
Me to just started ,I hope the major bloom, before hit and miss had me worrying
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: MarvelMango on February 05, 2017, 05:10:19 PM
Buds on my Irwin just started to swell.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: bsbullie on February 05, 2017, 06:09:18 PM
Buds on my Irwin just started to swell.

Sorry to hear that, lol
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: MarvelMango on February 05, 2017, 08:01:38 PM
Buds on my Irwin just started to swell.

Sorry to hear that, lol

Don't be a hater lol. I bought after trying a few. I needed something compact in my small yard. I grew up on Hadens and I still love them. The fruit last year were not that great, but winter last year sucked too with all the water. So I'm hoping it does better this year.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: skhan on February 09, 2017, 09:28:38 AM
Finally seeing some action in some tree in my area.
My Cogshall and Coconut Cream is pushing. We'll see in about a week if they are flowers.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: Cookie Monster on February 09, 2017, 10:45:17 AM
Yep, pretty much everything in my yard is pushing bloom now. That last 2 weeks of chill was magic.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: skhan on February 09, 2017, 11:20:26 AM
My three trees that are big enough to hold fruit are NDM, Cogshall, and Neelam.

The NDM has had swollen buds for months now, i have yet to see anything pushing. The only slightly intriguing thing i saw was that one terminals has a drop of fresh white sap. But it could just be from something injuring it.

Last year the Neelam gave me a pretty big crop considering its size. I harvested and trimmed it back in September. It recently flushed out leaves in December so i don't expect fruit this year. (3 flushes since Sept then, I dont know how this is condo mango.)

Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: bsbullie on February 09, 2017, 12:56:45 PM
Thats because Neelam is not a "condo mango".  That term, which may have originated from PIN, is nonsense and should be ignored.   Many of the varieties they term as such can and will get 20 - 30 feet tall.  Bottom line, ignore the varieties termed this way and just let your pruners, loppers and hand saws be your friends...but make sure you know the proper way to prune to restrict size.  Dont just hat rack or give "hair cuts".
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: puglvr1 on February 09, 2017, 01:31:28 PM


Still nothing here  :'(
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: Carbo on February 09, 2017, 06:24:33 PM


Still nothing here  :'(
Likewise down here in Broward.  My Cogshall has nothing that even resembles a bud.  Pickering is ready to bloom, however.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: 561MangoFanatic on February 10, 2017, 08:59:21 PM
Cogshall finally started blooming about a week ago even with my sooty mold & scale infestation. PPK died  :'(
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: gnappi on February 16, 2017, 02:37:38 AM
My Pickering is blooming heavy as is my Madame Francis (for the second time) Everything else is still asleep.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: Jani on February 16, 2017, 08:06:22 AM
Iman passand, pickering and NDM just starting to wake uo and push limited early blooms.. question when is a good stage  to spray against mildew? Mine have just started breaking the buds but i can tell it's pannicles emerging...
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: bsbullie on February 16, 2017, 08:25:00 AM
Iman passand, pickering and NDM just starting to wake uo and push limited early blooms.. question when is a good stage  to spray against mildew? Mine have just started breaking the buds but i can tell it's pannicles emerging...

Early?

Spray sulphur of copper?  You could spray copper (dor anthracnose) if flower buds have not opened, you could spray.  If flowers are open (best not to spray open buds), wait till fruit set.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: Jani on February 16, 2017, 12:21:59 PM
Copper...

Early as in the flower buds are not near opening yet..(just emerged), so there's benefit to spraying now, or wait a bit until the pannacles develop further and spray right before opening..?

Thanks as always....


Iman passand, pickering and NDM just starting to wake uo and push limited early blooms.. question when is a good stage  to spray against mildew? Mine have just started breaking the buds but i can tell it's pannicles emerging...

Early?

Spray sulphur of copper?  You could spray copper (dor anthracnose) if flower buds have not opened, you could spray.  If flowers are open (best not to spray open buds), wait till fruit set.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: Cookie Monster on February 16, 2017, 02:07:16 PM
Here's the IFAS recommendation:

The two major disease problems for mango trees in the home landscape are powdery mildew and anthracnose. Both these fungal pathogens attack newly emerging panicles, flowers, and young fruit. One to two early spring applications of sulfur and copper timed to begin when the panicle is 1/2 full size and then 10 to 21 days later will greatly improve the chances for fruit set and production. Usually, protecting the panicles of flowers during development and fruit set results in good fruit production in the home landscape.

If you use sulfur, try to stay away from tender leaves and try to spray in the evening, as phytotoxicity can result. Lemon zest seems especially adverse to sulfur. And yes, you can mix sulfur and copper (I've done it before). Discontinue sulfur use probably sometime in March when the weather starts heating up.

Personally, I spray every 2 weeks with a rotation of several different anti-fungals, including copper and products that are effective against powdery mildew.

http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/mg216 (http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/mg216)
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: sapote on February 16, 2017, 03:11:18 PM
We so focus on the plant issue and wanted to add sulfur and copper or other fungicide, but are they harmful to pollinators, i.e. honey bees?

Sapote
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: FruitFreak on February 16, 2017, 04:01:17 PM
We so focus on the plant issue and wanted to add sulfur and copper or other fungicide, but are they harmful to pollinators, i.e. honey bees?

Sapote

I usually don't see pollinators flying around at the time when I spray.  Typically, I'll do it right before sundown.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: FruitFreak on February 16, 2017, 04:08:12 PM
My ST is loaded with blooms on every panicle.  Fairchild is also looking like most panicles have blooms.  Trees are in 65gal fabric pots and are not exposed to much direct sunlight.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: MarvelMango on February 16, 2017, 05:17:40 PM
Cogshall buds a beginning to swell.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: roblack on February 16, 2017, 06:50:54 PM
Glenn mango has 2nd round of flowers busting out now. Already has egg sized fruit from earlier flowers.

Rollina/biriba is covered in flowers. Dropped all leaves, and now every branch is covered in new growth and most are starting to show small flowers.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: Tropicalgrower89 on February 17, 2017, 06:38:37 PM
My NDM #4 and Carrie are popping out blooms now
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: gnappi on February 17, 2017, 11:50:55 PM
Jeff,

It's been pretty dry for a while, should copper be sprayed prophylactic measure anyway? I have yet to get it other than on my little Pickering which I think had it when I got it.

 
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: Cookie Monster on February 18, 2017, 11:35:24 AM
Up to you. Here, I have to use fungicide to get good crops of clean fruit and to prevent new leaf growth from dying off. If you're not seeing it affecting your trees, then you can maybe skip it.

Jeff,

It's been pretty dry for a while, should copper be sprayed prophylactic measure anyway? I have yet to get it other than on my little Pickering which I think had it when I got it.

 
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: gnappi on February 18, 2017, 11:46:52 PM
I found today my graft of two years onto my seedling East Indian erupted in blooms as is my Pickering and Madame Francis mango and peach trees. I'm hoping my other mango stay asleep for a while longer.

The Fairchild #2 canistel is winding down (small but delicious fruits) as are the Kari and Kajang Carambola, and bananas. But my Makok is STILL giving up a few fruits a day for the last 2 months, Pineapple, Gold Nugget Jak and Jabo are flowering. Overall I'm happy. If my Green Caimito had not broken off at 4' from the ground I might have seen some blooms this year but grrr...

Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: puglvr1 on February 19, 2017, 08:58:04 AM

Yay!!! I finally see some swelling on my mango trees...probably going to be 'light' year production wise but its better than getting nothing ( I hope)...One advantage of late blooms are the chances of freeze damage significantly drops in March here :o)
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: mangokothiyan on February 19, 2017, 09:15:38 AM
All my mango trees, except for Keitt and Kesar, are finally in bloom. Blooming for the first time this year are Cac (bloomed in late November and now has golf ball sized mangoes on it),  Maha Chanok, Dwarf Hawaiian Sweet Tart and Angie. Kesar  has swollen buds and should bloom in the next few days.It is a mix of flowers and leaves on all the trees.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: TnTrobbie on February 22, 2017, 07:47:46 PM
Looks like a great year and potential great crop for my Ice Cream mango tree. On its 2nd bloom with golf ball fruit set from the 1st. Juliette is in full bloom. Lemon Zest is in full bloom :D. Both Julie's are in their 2nd bloom with fruit set from the 1st. Honey Kiss is in full bloom. Pickering, Maha, and Okrung looks as if they are about to bloom. Kesar's lower half is in full bloom. Tog Bi Con is mixed with growth and flowers with some branches are have multiple flower panicles only. Dot is mixed. Cushman, Imam Pasand, Mallika, Langra, Venus, Fernandin, Philippine, and ST Maui...crickets.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: Jani on February 23, 2017, 08:24:47 AM
Seems from looking around town...south Florida mango trees have just about woken up all over...

So that's good..but my lychees and the lychee trees in the area are doing nothing...plus I haven't seen much on the forum here to suggest any significant lychee bloom around south Florida...as we are getting into March next week, is it time to start worrying about a poor lychee season or is there still time?
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: Dangermouse01 on February 25, 2017, 02:07:23 PM
Not South Florida but Central Florida.
My NDM bloomed awhile back and currently has thumb size fruits.
Peach Cobbler did a small bloom about the same time as the NDM and it is now doing a heavy second bloom.
Lemon Zest is doing a heavy bloom.
Irwin is doing a small bloom, but it is still a small tree.
PPK is doing a fairly heavy bloom.
Coconut Creams, Mallika and Kent are all starting to show blooms.

DM
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: FruitFreak on February 25, 2017, 04:53:38 PM
Florigon

(https://s24.postimg.org/mlf2v769d/image.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/mlf2v769d/)

(https://s24.postimg.org/wk01hofox/image.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/wk01hofox/)

(https://s24.postimg.org/72hmy2xyp/image.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/72hmy2xyp/)

Sweet Tart

(https://s12.postimg.org/ydapo1e0p/image.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ydapo1e0p/)

(https://s12.postimg.org/98oaod3y1/image.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/98oaod3y1/)

(https://s12.postimg.org/kmatzkegp/image.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/kmatzkegp/)

Fairchild

(https://s17.postimg.org/be91ivay3/image.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/be91ivay3/)
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: mangomongo on February 27, 2017, 10:02:43 AM
Pina colada is in full swing.
(https://s1.postimg.org/krb48nurv/20170227_092611.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/krb48nurv/)
Honey kiss is really giving it a push. Nice show for a little guy but going to have to wait.
(https://s3.postimg.org/drwysdwen/20170227_090301.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/drwysdwen/)
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: mangomandan on February 28, 2017, 03:40:26 PM
I think my yard is behind some of yours, bloom-wise.

I have a nice, 3/4 bloom on Lemon Zest.
Mature-sized Dot has 6 mangos from first bloom, is just barely starting to bloom again.
Mature Beverly has only a few blooms.

Sweet Tart, still a smallish tree, is starting a modest bloom. It didn't bloom last year, after I allowed it to bring a dozen mangos to fruition the year before.

PPK, a tiny tree, held on to its first bloom, but is too small to allow to bear fruit.
Tiny Venus held on to its early bloom, but I picked off the fruit. It set more fruit than it has leaves.

No signs of life from 6-foot tall Fruit Punch, or 4-foot tall Guava.

Dupuis Saigon had a nice first bloom, but lost it all. Now is starting a modest second bloom.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: johnb51 on March 03, 2017, 09:36:19 AM
FINALLY Pickering and Angie are in full bloom.  Mallika just starting.  Don't know if Providence will do anything since it's only a year-and-a-half-old (but quite tall).
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: skhan on March 03, 2017, 10:22:06 AM
My cogshall seems on its way to a full bloom. Neelam is just starting to push.
The NDM (don't know what number) is a strange tree. Has 3 panicles and the rest of the terminals show no sign of pushing.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: puglvr1 on March 03, 2017, 11:16:35 AM
Fruitfreak/Marley, very nice trees!! Are you planning on keeping them in pots for planting them inground in the nearby future?

Great to hear most everyone's mango trees are finally blooming!

My Glenn has mostly new growths with just a few blooms...I'm guessing the very warm weather during the bloom stage must have interrupted the bloom cycle  :'(
 
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Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: FruitFreak on March 03, 2017, 11:20:34 AM
Fruitfreak/Marley, very nice trees!! Are you planning on keeping them in pots for planting them inground in the nearby future? 
(https://s12.postimg.org/r6fr90rp5/IMG_3123.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/r6fr90rp5/)

Hi Pugs.  Thanks and your Glenn looks like a perfect specimen, absolutely beautiful.  All of my trees are going in ground this year.  Those are the 65gal fabric pots.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: Cookie Monster on March 03, 2017, 12:59:24 PM
boo. Don't worry, my glenn did the same thing.

Fruitfreak/Marley, very nice trees!! Are you planning on keeping them in pots for planting them inground in the nearby future?

Great to hear most everyone's mango trees are finally blooming!

My Glenn has mostly new growths with just a few blooms...I'm guessing the very warm weather during the bloom stage must have interrupted the bloom cycle  :'(
 
(https://s12.postimg.org/r6fr90rp5/IMG_3123.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/r6fr90rp5/)
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: dwfl on March 03, 2017, 01:37:18 PM
My Glenn is going crazy. Ton of fruit about golf ball size and just put out another bloom.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: puglvr1 on March 03, 2017, 01:48:18 PM

Thanks! Should really take off once you get them planted later...

Good to know Jeff that mine isn't the only one doing the mixed bloom/growth thing! I love my Glenn so its very disappointing not getting more flowers this year.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: Squam256 on March 03, 2017, 03:44:56 PM
I have seen a number of Glenn trees doing this in the past few weeks. Clearly wasn't a fan of the weather this cycle.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: mangokothiyan on March 03, 2017, 07:54:03 PM
Sunrise is the only tree exhibiting that sort of behavior in my yard.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: gnappi on March 03, 2017, 08:12:59 PM
My Glenn is pushing growth, no blooms :-( On the + side everythig else is doing good.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: Cookie Monster on March 03, 2017, 11:06:42 PM
Lucky.

Sunrise is the only tree exhibiting that sort of behavior in my yard.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: TnTrobbie on March 04, 2017, 08:02:50 AM
Looks like a great year and potential great crop for my Ice Cream mango tree. On its 2nd bloom with golf ball fruit set from the 1st. Juliette is in full bloom. Lemon Zest is in full bloom :D. Both Julie's are in their 2nd bloom with fruit set from the 1st. Honey Kiss is in full bloom. Pickering, Maha, and Okrung looks as if they are about to bloom. Kesar's lower half is in full bloom. Tog Bi Con is mixed with growth and flowers with some branches are have multiple flower panicles only. Dot is mixed. Cushman, Imam Pasand, Mallika, Langra, Venus, Fernandin, Philippine, and ST Maui...crickets.

Fernandin and Venus in half bloom. Pickering and Dupuis Saigon in full bloom. Tog Bi Con has ~90% blooms. Maha, ST Maui, and Imam Pasand is partial bloom (< ~30% branches). Okrung, Cushman, Coconut Cream, Philippine and Langra.....crickets.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: 561MangoFanatic on March 04, 2017, 09:49:59 AM
Carrie & Keitt starting to bloom. ST Maui & some new blooms on Cogshall seem to be trying to shoot out new blooms but they died??
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: FruitFreak on March 04, 2017, 11:30:50 AM
Pretty cool weather in swfl this morning.  I noticed the ol Haden is pushing out mega late bloom spikes everywhere.  I thought it was done but guess not!
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: Das Bhut on March 04, 2017, 07:34:47 PM
false bloom alarm
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: GrassFlats on March 04, 2017, 09:20:36 PM
I moved back in late September but stopped by the old house about 6 weeks ago and the Glenn mango was full of blooms......sadly, I learned that the guy who moved into the house chopped the tree down :( :(
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: gnappi on March 05, 2017, 01:33:06 AM
I moved back in late September but stopped by the old house about 6 weeks ago and the Glenn mango was full of blooms......sadly, I learned that the guy who moved into the house chopped the tree down :( :(

The same thing happened in one of my past houses. I planted a very prolific Peach Mango and the next owner chopped it. I think the neighbors wanted to lynch him, I gave away baskets of mango to them.

Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: puglvr1 on March 05, 2017, 08:02:35 AM

That is very sad to hear when new neighbors or tenants move in and chop down mango trees (especially the good varieties)...maybe they don't know what it is or like mangoes. Its the only sane explanation I have on why they do it  :'(
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: johnb51 on March 05, 2017, 09:30:15 AM
Many years ago when I was growing up, we planted a Hass avocado tree in our front yard in the Los Angeles area.  The tree started to produce fruit--beautiful, delicious little fruit--but we sold the house.  When I came back to visit the neighborhood after a few years, the tree was gone.  It was heartbreaking.  People are truly weird and have no sense!
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: bsbullie on March 05, 2017, 11:10:40 AM
People on this forum are obviously fruit tree lovers/fanatics however you realize that it is a very small sector of society .  Many would say the same if any forum member cut down an Oak tree or an ornamental flowering tree for a fruit tree...

I can tell you I currently live in a community of over 500 homes and the vast majority would never want a fruit tree anywhere near their property cause the feel they are messy and attract rats.

Bottom line, to each their own...
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: Jani on March 05, 2017, 12:39:58 PM
so these not so humid and very windy conditions should be good to limit fungus on developing blooms right? I guess the drawbacks being some flower loss, and making it more difficult for pollinators?
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: puglvr1 on March 05, 2017, 01:37:21 PM
It sure has been very windy the last few days...my Cogshall is on its second bloom. Most of the flowers are not open yet. Only have 2 mangoes set from the first bloom cycle in late December lol...

(https://s7.postimg.org/7orbjk9tz/IMG_3134.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/7orbjk9tz/)

Rob, very good point! Most of my neighbors have Citrus trees...and those are slowly disappearing due to Citrus greening  :(.  I think there are only a few mango and lychee trees in my development...I know because I've spent a lot of time driving around "looking" for them, lol...I think I have the oldest and largest trees in my (close) to me in my neighborhood. The rest of the ones I've seen are much smaller/younger ...However if you drive a little further away there are some old established trees in some of the older neighborhoods near me. Even a Lychee grove less than 10 miles from me.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: Cookie Monster on March 05, 2017, 01:53:27 PM
Yep. Nine times out of 10, the new owner will axe most of the fruit trees and plant palms or oaks (or just plain old grass) in their place.

My current home was on that path. The first owner (Bill Snyder) was a charter member of the Broward Rare Fruit Council and had planted the entire yard with edibles. The next person to buy it removed perhaps half of the fruit trees (including what was rumored to be a fruiting mangosteen) and replanted with ornamentals. Then I came along and removed the ornamentals, replanted with fruit trees, and purchased and converted the neighboring lot to an orchard for good measure.

I guess the lady who chopped down many of the fruit trees here eventually saw a satellite image of her former property and was shocked to see that it returned back to the state that Bill had left it in :-).

People on this forum are obviously fruit tree lovers/fanatics however you realize that it is a very small sector of society .  Many would say the same if any forum member cut down an Oak tree or an ornamental flowering tree for a fruit tree...

I can tell you I currently live in a community of over 500 homes and the vast majority would never want a fruit tree anywhere near their property cause the feel they are messy and attract rats.

Bottom line, to each their own...
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: fisherking73 on March 11, 2017, 06:21:37 PM
Finally about 2 weeks ago my coconut cream popped, and has had more veg growth and pushed more bloom spikes, so should get more mangoes from it than last year in its 4th year. PPK still NADA, zilch, looks like maybe some tips swelling but not a singe break open. Pickering woke up about a week ago. Fairchild still nothing either. And on an unrelated note, Wurtz avocado blooming too!!
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: greenman62 on March 12, 2017, 01:17:51 PM

I can tell you I currently live in a community of over 500 homes and the vast majority would never want a fruit tree anywhere near their property cause the feel they are messy and attract rats.


i know the feeling.
i am, however, trying to change that.
If only on my street.

i spend a lot of time in my yard
and whenever i am in the front yard, and someone is walking by
i give them whatever fruit i have growing (in the front)
and tell them that anything in reach of the sidewalk is for them, and the neighborhood to pick.

i have a couple of guava, a Muntingia (just  died back from frost, but its coming back)
a couple of fig trees, a Jujube a  jambul/Java plum, and a mulberry.
(others in the future too)

Hardly anyone ever actually picks fruit unless i hand it to them
and then, i sometimes feel i am being pushy.
One neighbor tasted a guava and looked like she wanted to throw up.
its one of the better guava ive ever tasted. (ive since got her to like one)

Part of the point of my food-forest, is to show that people can grow a percent of their food.
i talk to them about the benefits of nutrition, lack of pesticides etc...
and i keep most of the better stuff in the back yard.
When you consider 1/2 of the food grown is never eaten (waste etc...)
and the costs involved in labor, transportation, fuel, storage, losses etc...
its mind boggling.
If everyone grew %20 of their food the world would be a happier place.
and the USA is worse than most countries. Ive been to several places outside the U.S.
and a lot of people have small gardens and a couple of fruit trees.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: johnb51 on March 12, 2017, 01:49:22 PM
I'm with you, greenman.  My neighbors are fascinated with my sapodilla tree.  They think it's kiwi fruit.  I, too, give samples, and someone at the end of the block planted their own, so this does work!
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: pineislander on March 14, 2017, 11:00:31 AM
A video walk-through of about 90% of my mango grove. Many varieties, 50 trees in all some I haven't identified. The trees were planted 5 years ago. I bought the place 3 years ago but wasn't able to be there and attend to them, they are in need of pruning. Good bloom this year even with no maintenance so far.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3Urfo160to (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3Urfo160to)
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: puglvr1 on March 14, 2017, 02:16:31 PM

What a beautiful sight to see, Wow!!!! All those future mangoes!!! Congrats!! Thanks for the video  :)

Are you planning on selling them to the public when they're ready?
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: pineislander on March 15, 2017, 06:28:47 AM
Yes, I'll be selling what I can't eat.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: puglvr1 on March 15, 2017, 09:11:37 AM

Please post when they are ready for sale, Thanks! Please email me with the info when the time comes...I'm not that far from you.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: GrassFlats on March 15, 2017, 12:05:08 PM
Holy moly! You could make a killing selling mangoes dude!
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: FruitFreak on March 15, 2017, 12:24:34 PM
A video walk-through of about 90% of my mango grove. Many varieties, 50 trees in all some I haven't identified. The trees were planted 5 years ago. I bought the place 3 years ago but wasn't able to be there and attend to them, they are in need of pruning. Good bloom this year even with no maintenance so far.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3Urfo160to (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3Urfo160to)

Curious to know the tree x row spacing?  Looks nice
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: pineislander on March 15, 2017, 08:10:58 PM
Curious to know the tree x row spacing?  Looks nice

Spacing is 14 ft in row and 23 ft between rows. They are bedded about 18" high for drainage.
Planted in 2013, but may have been from 25 gal or more nursery stock.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: zands on March 16, 2017, 08:19:21 AM
The cold snap of yesterday and today/hopefully tomorrow should stimulate more swelling buds to put out mango panicles. Or is March 15th too late?
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: bsbullie on March 16, 2017, 08:38:08 AM
The cold snap of yesterday and today/hopefully tomorrow should stimulate more swelling buds to put out mango panicles. Or is March 15th too late?

Not too late to push out flowers but I have also seen on very late blooms, if temps rise to extremes when fruit is trying to set, actual set can be inconsistent to somewhat on the poor side relatively speaking.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: Future on March 16, 2017, 09:25:43 AM
A video walk-through of about 90% of my mango grove. Many varieties, 50 trees in all some I haven't identified. The trees were planted 5 years ago. I bought the place 3 years ago but wasn't able to be there and attend to them, they are in need of pruning. Good bloom this year even with no maintenance so far.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3Urfo160to (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3Urfo160to)

That is impressive!  Happy harvest!
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: greenman62 on March 16, 2017, 09:30:48 AM
A video walk-through of about 90% of my mango grove. Many varieties, 50 trees in all some I haven't identified. The trees were planted 5 years ago. I bought the place 3 years ago but wasn't able to be there and attend to them, they are in need of pruning. Good bloom this year even with no maintenance so far.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3Urfo160to (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3Urfo160to)

wow, thats awsome.
I love the sound of "crunch crunch" of the leaves.
good natural mulch.
I think i would grow a couple of acacia on the north side
or plant some eleaegnus in between the rows as a nitrogen fixer
and comfrey for mulch and minerals.

do you plan on selling the place anytime soon :)
i guess i would have to also buy a house in Fla which isnt cheap... LOL

My backyard is getting really full
i might have to lok at buying an empty lot near here.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: baccarat0809 on March 16, 2017, 12:16:12 PM
A video walk-through of about 90% of my mango grove. Many varieties, 50 trees in all some I haven't identified. The trees were planted 5 years ago. I bought the place 3 years ago but wasn't able to be there and attend to them, they are in need of pruning. Good bloom this year even with no maintenance so far.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3Urfo160to (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3Urfo160to)

Wow - at about a minute 40 seconds in there's a tree that's full of fruit already.  Do you know the variety on that one?
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: pineislander on March 16, 2017, 09:23:13 PM
Wow - at about a minute 40 seconds in there's a tree that's full of fruit already.  Do you know the variety on that one?

A Thai variety of 'green mango', very early and very sour now which is just what they want. I'm advised to sell it that way because the variety gets large but is quite susceptible to anthracnose later. Can't recall the name, and have a lot of sorting out to do on the varieties here.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: pineislander on March 16, 2017, 09:37:48 PM
wow, thats awsome.
I love the sound of "crunch crunch" of the leaves.
good natural mulch.
I think i would grow a couple of acacia on the north side
or plant some eleaegnus in between the rows as a nitrogen fixer
and comfrey for mulch and minerals.
There's really no room at this point for more trees in the mango planting which is 1/2 acre. I'm preparing an acre to plant this summer, and will be doing misc tropical fruit with intercrops as it matures. My northern border will be 350 ft of sweet edible shoot bamboo, 3-4" diameter x 30-40 ft tall, western border is the seagrape lined fence at the start of the video. Neither Russian Olive or comfrey do very well around here, but the dryland tropical legumes do well. I'm about zone 10a-b.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: zands on March 17, 2017, 05:17:47 PM
The cold snap of yesterday and today/hopefully tomorrow should stimulate more swelling buds to put out mango panicles. Or is March 15th too late?

Not too late to push out flowers but I have also seen on very late blooms, if temps rise to extremes when fruit is trying to set, actual set can be inconsistent to somewhat on the poor side relatively speaking.

Thanks bsb. The bloom situation is being monitored closely!  8)
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: zands on March 17, 2017, 05:23:35 PM
My northern border will be 350 ft of sweet edible shoot bamboo, 3-4" diameter x 30-40 ft tall,
You must be planning on selling fresh bamboo shoots. They seem to have good shelf life. I see them sold in bulk in Chinese supermarkets. Submerged in water in 5 gallon plastic buckets. Where did you buy them? I should plant a few.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: pineislander on March 17, 2017, 08:08:11 PM
My northern border will be 350 ft of sweet edible shoot bamboo, 3-4" diameter x 30-40 ft tall,
You must be planning on selling fresh bamboo shoots. They seem to have good shelf life. I see them sold in bulk in Chinese supermarkets. Submerged in water in 5 gallon plastic buckets. Where did you buy them? I should plant a few.
I was going to plant a windbreak along the border anyways, and was offered cuttings. First I have to clear a 350 ft treeline full of Brazil Pepper and Earleaf acacia, and then plant cuttings in situ under drip irrigation this summer. I'm told there is a market, and why not grow something which can be harvested as a dual purpose planting? Hopefully I will see how it goes. If the propagation is successful, in a few years I'll be able to sell shoots/plants/cuttings.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: zands on March 18, 2017, 10:33:08 AM
My northern border will be 350 ft of sweet edible shoot bamboo, 3-4" diameter x 30-40 ft tall,
You must be planning on selling fresh bamboo shoots. They seem to have good shelf life. I see them sold in bulk in Chinese supermarkets. Submerged in water in 5 gallon plastic buckets. Where did you buy them? I should plant a few.
I was going to plant a windbreak along the border anyways, and was offered cuttings. First I have to clear a 350 ft treeline full of Brazil Pepper and Earleaf acacia, and then plant cuttings in situ under drip irrigation this summer. I'm told there is a market, and why not grow something which can be harvested as a dual purpose planting? Hopefully I will see how it goes. If the propagation is successful, in a few years I'll be able to sell shoots/plants/cuttings.

Internet says they grow 40 ft high so should look nice. If I get some planted I will top them off at twenty ft. I will have to research if this is harmful to bamboo. Good luck!
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: Dangermouse01 on March 19, 2017, 02:23:41 PM
My Peach Cobbler.
(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n200/dangermouse2006/flowers%20and%20plants/Mangoes/Peach%20Cobbler/PC_03-16-17_zpseic5wr7s.jpg)

DM
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: puglvr1 on March 19, 2017, 04:01:13 PM

Very nice tree DM!!! Great looking blooms!!
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: savemejebus on March 26, 2017, 04:56:50 PM
another year of super heavy bloom on coconut cream, another year with 2 or so bb sized fruit when all is said and done.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: murahilin on March 26, 2017, 05:02:49 PM
another year of super heavy bloom on coconut cream, another year with 2 or so bb sized fruit when all is said and done.

Last year I got about 120 Coconut Cream fruit from one tree. I only sprayed it once or twice with Serenade.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: Squam256 on March 27, 2017, 08:21:47 AM
another year of super heavy bloom on coconut cream, another year with 2 or so bb sized fruit when all is said and done.

They are erratic, unreliable fruiters due to a tendency towards bad ratios of male flowers some years.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: Cookie Monster on March 27, 2017, 11:09:08 AM
My coco cream trees are both loaded with bb's -- hundreds of them.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: Cookie Monster on March 27, 2017, 11:19:44 AM
Do you think nutrition has anything to do with this? Both my coco cream trees (which came from the 2011 batch) produced poorly until this year -- which is the first year that I've really taken care of their nutritional needs with plenty of micros, p and k, starting a year before the bloom. My pina colada is doing the same thing -- it's loaded with bb's... as are all of my trees.

The party line among mango tree growers seems to be that they don't need anything but potassium. But, I've found that to be untrue. It is indeed true that mangoes do exceptionally well in the absence of nitrogen, but they do need micros, p and k.

another year of super heavy bloom on coconut cream, another year with 2 or so bb sized fruit when all is said and done.

They are erratic, unreliable fruiters due to a tendency towards bad ratios of male flowers some years.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: Squam256 on March 27, 2017, 11:43:48 AM
Do you think nutrition has anything to do with this? Both my coco cream trees (which came from the 2011 batch) produced poorly until this year -- which is the first year that I've really taken care of their nutritional needs with plenty of micros, p and k, starting a year before the bloom. My pina colada is doing the same thing -- it's loaded with bb's... as are all of my trees.

The party line among mango tree growers seems to be that they don't need anything but potassium. But, I've found that to be untrue. It is indeed true that mangoes do exceptionally well in the absence of nitrogen, but they do need micros, p and k.

another year of super heavy bloom on coconut cream, another year with 2 or so bb sized fruit when all is said and done.

They are erratic, unreliable fruiters due to a tendency towards bad ratios of male flowers some years.

I think it's possibly more an issue with their relative age. The coconut cream trees at Fairchild farm produced poorly  for years until maybe 3 years ago, then they started having good crops.

I have an excellent nutritional program in place and have found that younger CC trees still tend to produce too many staminate flowers. They are definitely capable of producing decent crops but they aren't consistent about it. I blame the 'Gary' and 'edward' influence in its genetic makeup. Mediocre disease resistance too.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: Cookie Monster on March 27, 2017, 12:00:47 PM

OK.

Do you think nutrition has anything to do with this? Both my coco cream trees (which came from the 2011 batch) produced poorly until this year -- which is the first year that I've really taken care of their nutritional needs with plenty of micros, p and k, starting a year before the bloom. My pina colada is doing the same thing -- it's loaded with bb's... as are all of my trees.

The party line among mango tree growers seems to be that they don't need anything but potassium. But, I've found that to be untrue. It is indeed true that mangoes do exceptionally well in the absence of nitrogen, but they do need micros, p and k.

I think it's possibly more an issue with their relative age. The coconut cream trees at Fairchild farm produced poorly  for years until maybe 3 years ago, then they started having good crops.

I have an excellent nutritional program in place and have found that younger CC trees still tend to produce too many staminate flowers. They are definitely capable of producing decent crops but they aren't consistent about it. I blame the 'Gary' and 'edward' influence in its genetic makeup. Mediocre disease resistance too.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: merce3 on March 27, 2017, 06:45:54 PM
This year has been frustrating for me. I hacked back my pickering too late last year and it's only puahing vegetative growth. Maybe I let it hold too many fruit last year... Not really sure. I also have a NDM that's good size but it looks like it's stuck. Swollen buds since late January but absolutely no growth or blooms... I could deal with at least some homegrown NDM but the wait is killing me.
Title: Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
Post by: skhan on March 27, 2017, 08:19:44 PM
This year has been frustrating for me. I hacked back my pickering too late last year and it's only puahing vegetative growth. Maybe I let it hold too many fruit last year... Not really sure. I also have a NDM that's good size but it looks like it's stuck. Swollen buds since late January but absolutely no growth or blooms... I could deal with at least some homegrown NDM but the wait is killing me.

I feel your pain. My NDM has like 5 panicles, it was planted from a 7 gallon over 3 years