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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: YIKES! Fig damage - what's up?
« on: February 17, 2018, 02:23:58 PM »
When this occured in asian persimons (kaki), on main trunk, plant survived but this year they forming new branches under the lesion. It is better to cut affected branch after the last freeze so the new branches will be stronger and longer.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: YIKES! Fig damage - what's up?
« on: February 15, 2018, 02:30:57 PM »
It is typical when after strong freeze  rise the  temperature , especially if the coverage is dark colored. Last year, when we have strong winter which is now in US, all figs were frozen to the ground, except one which is planted near south wall. A lot of hardy ,subtropicals, were damaged like the fig in your picture. Painting the trunk with white color can partially reduce this problem.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: I'm Looking for Pau rosa
« on: February 13, 2018, 04:46:38 PM »
I got them at the end of september. And here are the plants as were the next year at may.


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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: I'm Looking for Pau rosa
« on: February 12, 2018, 02:28:55 PM »
Few years ago I got fresh seeds from Brasil. Very good germination rate, nice plants, but only 1 year. Then they decline to grow for unknown reason and subsequently die. The same as the ishipingo (Ocotea quixos). From my experience very difficult to grow in pot culture or outside equatorial climate. :(

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Lardizabalaceae
« on: February 09, 2018, 02:27:15 PM »
I will definitely try Decaisnea this year, it seems to be very interesting for my growing zone. Problem is only with good seed source. I try several times to germinate them (stratified, without stratification) no one of big amount germinate :( Seed were probably very old or not properly stored.
Interesting info about Akebia Karen :) Seems that many of Lardizabaceae is not only unusuall but also healthy...

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Lardizabalaceae
« on: February 06, 2018, 07:02:08 PM »
Another interesting member with edible and curious fruits may be Decaisnea fargesii (blue sausage fruit). It is hardy down to -15 C and fruit have sweet jelly pulp. It is not well known here as the Akebia is, but looks very interesting....

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Apocynaceae pollination
« on: February 02, 2018, 02:31:56 PM »
I have only Carissa macrocarpa, it fruits without problems. Some Apocynaceae may need special pollinators like moths. I dont know if it is the case of Carissa, but flowers have strong delicate scent like jasmine.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Feijoa flowering (greenhouse)
« on: February 02, 2018, 02:28:01 PM »
I think that it is more due to the longer day at spring than temperature. It is cold greenhouse, temperatures go often to -1C at night. Feichoas are not as tropical as jaboticabas.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Feijoa flowering (greenhouse)
« on: February 01, 2018, 03:37:08 PM »
I have feichoas in greenhouse and they are very easy plants. Flowering period here is end of february and march, fruits rippen from september to october. From may to november I put them outside because they appreciate a lot of sun.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Shanxi Li vs Li jujube
« on: January 08, 2018, 05:32:28 PM »
I have Li and Lang- fruits of both are big but taste is good , sweet only in dry fruits. When they are fresh they taste like partialy dry apple. I know that other varietes may be better.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: tropical spices
« on: December 31, 2017, 03:57:55 PM »
If I have garden in the tropics I will definitely try some unusuall spices like - Indonesian cinnamon, Chinese cinnamon, Amazonian cinnamon, African Pepper, Calabash Nutmeg, Indonesian Bay leaf. I try some of these here, but Im limited with greenhouse so difficult job but have succes with Black pepper, Allspice (very good spice), various cinnamons, vanilla, ginger, cardamon, pompon vanilla. Sichuan pepper grows very good outside but may be problematic in tropics. Also Sassafras, bay leaf, Californian bay leaf grow well here. If you want more information and history of spices I recommend these site  http://gernot-katzers-spice-pages.com/engl/index.html  ;)

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Very easy to grow, smell is bad like spoiled eggs.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Any Rec's for Persimmons and PawPaws?
« on: October 19, 2017, 04:58:45 PM »
For me best is Nikitas Gift (X) very cold hardy not too big but sweet fruits with rum flavor. Persimons with bigger fruits here - Buyu, Kaukaz, Buffalo Heart and Chong Pjong (Korean columnar variety) - all adstrigent.
I have about 15 varietes of Pawpaws, but the best is one seedling with very sweet fruits with light seeds and firm pulp with vanilla taste. Very good fruits are from Overleese and Pensylvania Golden 1 (it has taste like caramel) 8)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Exotic Moraceae
« on: March 22, 2017, 07:35:17 PM »
I was surprised only with that Helicostylis as synonym for Brosimum . It is new thing for me. Anyway, one or another, they are very interesting trees not only for their fruits but also for pharmacological substances.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Anyone grow black goji berry?
« on: March 22, 2017, 04:40:33 PM »
Yes I grow them. Still wait for fruiting... They are interesting. When you put the dry berry to the water, it stay blue at first then violet. Fruits are rich in antioxidants.
Yeah! They'd make a beautiful tea. I would expect it to prefer a climate similar to that of the regular goji. Don't know if they are used fresh or in cereals like red goji.

They can withstand more drouhgt than regular goji. Very easy to keep plant... I havent an opportunity to taste them so I dont know. May be this year? :)

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Anyone grow black goji berry?
« on: March 22, 2017, 04:36:26 PM »
Where did you get seeds?

Many sellers in Europe offers them. I bought them from Italy . They are long viable seeds.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Exotic Moraceae
« on: March 22, 2017, 04:10:20 PM »
And perhaps in the future, topics about pouterias, about spondias, about other families will be cool, since it came out of the sameness.
















The seeds, marked as Helicostylis are seeds of some Brosimum (may be alicastrum). I have seeds of Helicostylis tomentosa and they look like the seeds marked as Naucleopsis in your picture. They are abou 4 times smaller than that of Brosimum. I will take the picture from my young plants.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Exotic Moraceae
« on: March 20, 2017, 06:42:23 PM »
Very interesting tree is cows milk tree - Galactodendron (Brosimum) utile. It have edible fruits and the sap of tree have composition similar to milk of cow. Tree seems to be more sensitive to drough than Ramon.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Anyone grow black goji berry?
« on: March 20, 2017, 06:34:36 PM »
Yes I grow them. Still wait for fruiting... They are interesting. When you put the dry berry to the water, it stay blue at first then violet. Fruits are rich in antioxidants.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cinnamon
« on: March 04, 2017, 06:24:12 AM »

If one's ultimate goal is to harvest the bark for cinnamon,  pruning the tree to keep "small" is not beneficial.   You want the tree to grow up so you can proceed with the sacrific to get the water suckers to harvest the bark.

I must keep them small because Im limited with roof of greenhouse as I live in nontropical climate. In FL I think you can grow them without any prunning and they can easily attain 10 m hihg

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cinnamon
« on: March 04, 2017, 06:18:51 AM »

I reccomend to plant both because they can be easily maintained by prunnning about 10 ft high and both are very good for kitchen as a spice.

Because of high coumarin content in casia, I would discourage use of this species. I think it does more damage than good. Go for the real thing.

If you dont consume it daily and in high doses I think it cannot harm you. But it is true that ceylon cinnamon scent is much more better and is safer.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cinnamon
« on: March 03, 2017, 03:52:52 PM »
Anyone growing Cinnamon in sw/s FL.? How big does it really get?

"Which" cinnamon?  Some nurseries tend to abuse the name and interchange cassia and cinnamon.  Leaf shapes are totally different as are the uses, benefits and growth habits.

You can distinguish them not only by the leaf shape but they have different scent. Ceylon cinnamon is sweet  with tone of clove inside. More pungent is cassia and between them Indonesian cinnamon (C. burmanii). Indonesian cinnamon grow very fast, ceylon cinnamon is less vigorous grower. I reccomend to plant both because they can be easily maintained by prunnning about 10 ft high and both are very good for kitchen as a spice.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Sassafras root suckers
« on: February 26, 2017, 05:17:00 PM »
I have few plants from seeds. Seeds must be fresh and they need undergo stratification. They grow very slowly but leaves has nice smell

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Gevuina Avellana ( Chilean Hazelnut)
« on: February 26, 2017, 05:13:30 PM »
5 y ago I have small plants in pot but no one survive. They are difficult for growing in containers, may be we have hot summers here. Some plants from Proteaceae family need specific soil composition. With Macadamia I have no problems.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: growing black goji
« on: February 06, 2017, 04:41:15 PM »
i had mine in containers that didnt do so well.
i put them in ground, and they looked shabby for months
i gave them some mycorrhizae, and it took a few weeks
but , they really took off after that.

also, they are in a raised bed with garden soil.
i think when the roots finally hit the soil underneath
(mostly sand), is when they started growing faster.

not sure if i am a fan of the growth habit.
they fall over, and produce "branches" that sprout up,
 then THEY fall over etc...

i did harvest a few handfuls of fruit in the fall.

this is 3 plants... 2 are smaller, most of this jumble, is 1 plant.





Are you sure that it is black goji? (L. ruthenicum) It look like red one... My plants have very narrow and thick leaves.

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