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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Looking for Licia scion
« on: March 29, 2018, 11:23:57 PM »
Need licia cherimoya budwood

you'll have to email me, but i should have a few cuttings.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pruning rollinia problem
« on: March 29, 2018, 11:21:59 PM »
pretty common with biribas in FL, i see die back all the time, it seems like some limbs just abort...it's definitely a touchy tree in some cases, it hates root stress.

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I was smelling longevity spinach blooms today and they have a strong smell of                              nacho cheese doritos ,small yellow flowers

lol those frickin flowers smell like the worst case of athlete's foot ever!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Wild Plinia Phitrantha?
« on: March 28, 2018, 07:37:08 PM »
looks a lot like phitrantha, but hard to say for sure from just a few pictures, because there's so many possibilities in your area.

but yes, fruit looks costate, leaves look right, and bark color does too.  I would bet on phitrantha.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: fruit fly and jaboticaba?
« on: March 25, 2018, 02:23:51 PM »
They can get fruit fly, but it's uncommon here, and mostly the thin skinned types, Red Jabo mainly, never cabeluda, or blue Jabo

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they need to go through some official proceedings to designate a botanical name for Grimal jabo...i don't think it would be Plinia jaboticaba, but rather a new species, that has not been named.

Helton has done some great work, but I have seen quite a few debates arise due to his taxonomic beliefs.

Why is Peluda de Alagoas (Large leaf Jaboticaba) still referred to as Plinia sp.? It is Plinia jaboticaba (distinct from Plinia cauliflora). If they are conspecific, then so should P. coronata be absorbed. At least, this is the way it was explained to me by Helton, who has read all of Mattos's original work. The key morphological difference is that P. cauliflora flowers on everything from trunk to thin branches, whereas P. jaboticaba only fruits on the thick branches. Varieties of cauliflora include Sabará, Paulista & ponhema. Varieties of jaboticaba include Olho de boi, Rajada, Pintada, açú etc... So PdA or Grimal is variety of P. jaboticaba. Or if you want to go with the current incorrect orthodoxy, a variety of P. cauliflora...

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yea i got 10 of them or more, and last year we had hurricane, and freezes, pretty bad...the freezes came and i watered them constantly overhead to protect them with ice formation, but what happened is crazy, i think there's pics on my FB page, but the trees got covered in ice, and it weighed them down so heavily that they were toppled, and uprooted from the pots, i guess the roots hadn't fill out the new 30 gal pots i put them in sufficiently to keep them upright with all that ice formation, it was crazy like 26F one night, and 25F the other, the trees were frozen over, and sitting in pools of water, with their roots disturbed heavily, but i just set them back upright, and kept them tied up, so the wind wouldn't jostle the roots as they recovered, and now they are doing just fine, but this year, not much flowering so far, just a light bloom, and light crop setting now, hopefully later this year the put out a nice crop..

I recently transplanted some Grimal Jabuticaba trees from 15 gal, into heavy duty 25 gal pots with reservoirs built in at the base.

some of the trees have light crops, and some are bare...but one is going crazy..(this is the 3rd crop this year...one was light, one was heavy)

Admittedly, I have been over-watering them...although the trees don't mind, the fruits will split when they are close to maturity. 

You can see the minerals from the water on the skin of the fruits, making them look chalky. 










Adam.  Do you still have this tree? or fruiting Grimal?

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Nice!

I had been selling some of the trees as pre-healed, which means I graft them and immediately send them to my customer to heal...the Garcinias have had surprisingly high success rate. 

I hope they grow very well for you, it's nice to be able to propagate this tree without waiting for seeds.

thanks for sharing!

Hi all, I'm new to the forum. I've enjoyed reading this thread. Exciting to see how close several people are to having fruiting trees. I wanted to share this grafted Luc's I got from Adam that just took.
-Josh



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: can you ID this garcinia?
« on: February 10, 2018, 06:41:33 PM »
how did that greenhouse work out for you? the one i see in the picture from 2015?

I will try to get pics of my G. gardneriana for you, so we can compare leaves, yours does look a little funny now that i see 2015 pics, reminds me of gardneriana more i suppose...it would be nice if it was brasiliensis (maybe a superior form) or even gardneriana, or achachairu...they're all good eating fruits.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: can you ID this garcinia?
« on: February 06, 2018, 12:31:08 AM »
probably achachairu G.humilis.

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congrats on all that action...

use those vexator seeds as stock for grafting camu camu, it's fun.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: New jaboticabas, 1.5m, 5 feet tall
« on: February 01, 2018, 06:30:23 PM »
lol, maybe the other post was of paulista, this one coronata...and it helped confuse me for the other post.
Ok thanks, these are from another source, ver y similar but leaves smell stronger and nicer...

I made a tea out of its leaves and it tastes very good

now i see more pics i hadn't seen before, i guess i agree with Helton, it looks more like coronata than pualista,,, congrats on your flowers

Ah,ok, maybe wild coronata... we dont have flowers yet :-S

hey i thought those were flowers coming??

btw, you can easily tell once they fruit...the paulista kind of has a crown, but it's just not the same as real coronata, which has much more prominent apical disk.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: First jaboticaba flower buds??????
« on: February 01, 2018, 02:50:03 PM »
this is same tree we tried  figure out if paulista or coronata?

you have flowers coming right?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: New jaboticabas, 1.5m, 5 feet tall
« on: February 01, 2018, 02:48:38 PM »
now i see more pics i hadn't seen before, i guess i agree with Helton, it looks more like coronata than pualista,,, congrats on your flowers

Ah,ok, maybe wild coronata... we dont have flowers yet :-S

hey i thought those were flowers coming??

btw, you can easily tell once they fruit...the paulista kind of has a crown, but it's just not the same as real coronata, which has much more prominent apical disk.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: New jaboticabas, 1.5m, 5 feet tall
« on: January 31, 2018, 10:26:34 AM »
now i see more pics i hadn't seen before, i guess i agree with Helton, it looks more like coronata than pualista,,, congrats on your flowers

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Two year old Red Jabo plants
« on: January 29, 2018, 07:50:55 PM »
likes to be in a dish, and then let it dry out somewhat every few weeks if you don't want mosquitoes...lol

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started selling scions a few weeks ago,  i still have vinho tinto (reticulata), genova red illama, Pet pack chong atemoya, big red sugar apple, giant mexican sugar apple and annona salzmanii, and miami guanabana...i have a few others that were on my original list, but my yucatan sugar apple died....

please email me at flyingfoxfruits@gmail.com, and i will try to respond in a timely manner    ;D

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: New jaboticabas, 1.5m, 5 feet tall
« on: January 28, 2018, 05:31:19 PM »
Thanks Adam, it would be very nice if they can get 25º F (-4º C) and survive in a protected place where colds can get 20º F (-6.6º C), under other bushes and with automatic watering. We planted one of them in that place now and hope that will be fine this winter... maybe will put an anti frost blanket


If wind is not intense, you can protect by letting them ice over during a freeze, I did this just recently for 26F and 25F, two separate hard freezes, about 10hrs total duration at those minimum temps, the irrigation must be started before the onset of freezing weather, (38-36F works for me, I start early because I've had the water start to freeze inside my pipes before it actually froze), and you mustn't stop watering until the freeze has passed, I wait for temps to rise above 36F, and then I stop irrigating

The process of ice forming actually generates heat

http://littleshop.physics.colostate.edu/tenthings/FreezingWarmer.pdf

One bad thing is that if you water too much and the freeze is too hard, it can produce so much ice, it weighs down the branches and breaks them...good thing jaboticaba wood is very strong, mine held what seemed like 60lbs of ice armor.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: New jaboticabas, 1.5m, 5 feet tall
« on: January 27, 2018, 10:51:15 PM »
look a lot like pualista,  good news they are very cold tolerant, we went down to 25F and it didn't really get damage at all

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« on: January 27, 2018, 10:49:39 PM »
pltdworld

congrats i think it's sabara

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jaboticaba
« on: January 23, 2018, 08:26:15 PM »
Stay green only

probably Plinia aureana, but yours looks interesting, the leaf is smaller and less bullate than mine, so maybe a different variety...there are many variations of this species, some even with red colored fruits.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« on: January 23, 2018, 02:23:44 PM »
the ice really helped protect the plants, i got some vexator fruits that iced over like 4 times, and still held on and look like they are getting ripe!    even sensitive stuff like Plinia inflata did great, and the ice got so heavy, it pulled the trees down, uprooting them from their pots, but they didn't mind, because it was so wet, and cold....if it was hot and dry, it would have been a different story, but they all seem to be doing very well.  Winter is not over, Feb is usually the worst month...but I'm fighting hard to keep everything alive....and always have a plan B.

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Adam,
Did the junglesop tree survive Irma?

yes, i had sold them by then, but they did fine

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Aw, man. I was hoping that the reason that these usually take at least 10 years to fruit was because they grow slowly; if so I'd be able to start one and while it would take a long time, it wouldn't take up too much greenhouse space in the meantime.  But after seeing how FlyingFoxFruit's trees have put on a good chunk of a meter per year, I guess that's not an option!

I'm also curious as to how his trees are doing.  They looked pretty healthy in the last pics.  :)

they weren't going to be something that I propagate, and they were getting so large, i decided to sell them both...the person that got them is in a much better area for growing them, so they actually have a chance to fruit...but they chose to remain anonymous, I don't know if they share pics.

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