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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« on: January 18, 2018, 08:29:04 PM »













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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Plinia sp. "Anomaly" new Jabuticaba variety
« on: December 30, 2017, 04:00:04 PM »
still waiting for blooms to open, taking a long time because of night time temps being in the 40's...new pics soon.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« on: December 27, 2017, 01:45:51 PM »
nice update, greenman62, thanks for sharing.

ISpendTooMuchTimeHere

a couplpe of really large plants
i hav stayed away from plantogram cause they seemed very expensive
but, that is a huge jabo for only being in ground 2 yrs
was it a 7 gallon ?

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on a separate note.
i have a red from (flyingfox) that has been through hell.
i first had put it in ground when too small, and the couple of frosts we have had really hurt it
or, at least set it back.
then the first time i gave it iron was not in a chelated form
and did nt help.
the water here is very alkaline, which i just found out recently also.
i also had to dig it up and replant it
i had planted it too deep, and with the large amount of mulch i used
it swamped the trunk.

but, its now perking up
ive decided to only very lightly prune it for now
just pruning inside crossing and interior small growth.
ive left the lower branches alone
i figure the more photosynthesis it does, the faster roots will grow.


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this is the first Jabo i got from PIN about 4 years ago (below)
it took a while to adjust going in ground 2 years ago
then, last winter, we had 1 night that froze
it very rarely gets under 30F here, but, it hit 27F that night

i actually planted it just 1ft from the cement walkway, thinking it would hold heat
and somewhat protect the plant and roots
i dont think any roots were damaged, as it regrew pretty quick
but, the main trunk completely died out.
all the new growth is making this more of a bush, than a tree in habit.

the snow/sleet pic is from this year (2 weeks ago)
and just burned a few leaves since it warmed quickly the next morning.







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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Plinia sp. "Anomaly" new Jabuticaba variety
« on: December 23, 2017, 05:56:14 PM »
ok... so u saw the last bloom i posted pics below of, around Dec 3, or 4th...(i think the little cold snap we had, and this dry weather, made it so no fruit set...it saw 36-38F a few times i think)

but now check this round of flowers ;D...


















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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Ever blooming mulberry
« on: December 20, 2017, 11:53:49 PM »
if u want lots of fruit, get the one called Thai dwarf, every time u cut back u get a crop...best crop seems to be spring, largest fruit...the fruits are large, crisp, and somewhat tart...
the everbearing makes small fruits, and doesn't produce near as much as thai dwarf...it's the most productive variety i can think of.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: White Jade Pineapple
« on: December 15, 2017, 09:23:42 AM »




Looking good Marley!  Thanks for the plug! 

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congrats

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nice looking tree there, the leaves look really cool, most of them i see here don't have such a slender elongated shape...they are more oval shaped usually.

Hi, thanks for writing, I didnt knew that! I hope that the fruit will be good, I read that some of them have "mucosa"/sticky pulp and other ones are more firm... would it be true?

just don't wait to eat the fruit too long, or it will be snotty... this is one fruit you can pick slightly early, and it will taste best...so do not let the fruit turn fully yellow, pick when there is a about 10% green coloration left, 90% yellow.

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nice looking tree there, the leaves look really cool, most of them i see here don't have such a slender elongated shape...they are more oval shaped usually.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Plinia sp. "Anomaly" new Jabuticaba variety
« on: December 05, 2017, 01:00:33 PM »
Awesome! I love seeing pictures of that little "Anomaly" monster.
Your posts encouraged me to graft a bunch of Sabara  seedlings and I had a really good success rate with 4 varieties from branches that already fruited. Thanks Plinia Prince , or have you graduated to a loftier Jabo centric title at this point?

thanks Jonah!

glad to hear u are grafting Plinias, it's really not that hard, especially if you aren't using super thick scions.

I'm trying to move as fast as I can, to get this variety released to the public, but I just realized it was something special around 2y ago, and it takes years of observation to figure out how the plant will behave.

I'm learning more about the juvenility period of Plinia grafts, and finding out which ones fruit fastest, and how to graft them so they will fruit faster. 

I'm hoping to use some mature scions from the Anomaly next season, I still want to see a small grafted plant (single graft, not multiple grafts, which usually fruit faster) flowering in 1y.

I've been able to get Myrciarias to flower this way, but not yet any of the Plinias, which seem to fruit on older wood.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Plinia sp. "Anomaly" new Jabuticaba variety
« on: December 04, 2017, 02:51:27 PM »
so...it's been a little less than 2y, since I grafted a small scion off of the "Anomaly" seedling, i remember the cutting i took was not more than 4mm in diameter, and if i'm not mistaken, it had not flowered yet (the mother tree had been flowering, but not the actual branch i took)...

as of now, the mother tree has been flowering continually for 2yrs straight, never taking a complete break, but definitely has biggest crops during winter, and spring, with production lagging during late summer/fall....and sometimes the tree will set lots of fruits, and other times, it will not set any at all, i think it depends on the environmental conditions quite a bit.

because the tree was so precocious, and bloomed so prolifically, i thought i might get lucky, with the grafted tree fruiting in about 1y from the time it was made...but it ended up taking about 22-23 month for the grafted tree to show signs of reproductive growth,

here is a recent photo of the mother tree, flowering up a storm per usual...

and also some photos of the first grafted tree I made from the Anomaly, with flowers emerging after approx. 2y from grafting.  It looks like it's going to be blooming in several places, I'm excited to see how it behaves as a grafted tree...it's vigor is noticeably improved when it's growing on Sabara roots.











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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yay! My first pitangatuba fruit!
« on: November 29, 2017, 06:01:13 PM »
nice work!

maybe a little over ripe, next time maybe you will get the fruit just right...they taste really good if they're perfectly ripe.

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the tree in the pics below was grafted from my mother tree, (which subsequently died from root trauma when i tried to repot it), now this back up tree is in a 5 gal, about 1.5y from grafting, and 3ft tall, it has set over 6 fruits, but a few aborted, now it's holding at least 3 fruits....









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cuttings are pretty easy to root, i got some going, and sold them, i think i have a handful left, they grow slow as hell, and hate being in the shade, with alkaline pH, or too wet.

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Lack of humidity may be the issue, if not maybe the fertilizer, they hate excess Nitrogen

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mystery Garcinia from southern Brazil
« on: November 26, 2017, 02:36:43 PM »
Just had some G. gardeneriana fruits at Helton's place. Very nice...sweet and juicy.
The G. brasilensis is very similar to G. intermedia (lemon drop), although there are different forms of the fruit on each species, the plants look pretty much identical.

i believe skin of G. gardneriana is always thicker, and not palatable.

a distinguishing characteristic of brasiliensis, is it's thin edible skin.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mystery Garcinia from southern Brazil
« on: November 23, 2017, 07:04:48 PM »
It's the superior form of garcinia brasiliensis, which was confused by some collectors as gardneriana

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Good or bad bug ?
« on: November 21, 2017, 09:56:07 AM »
maybe this link will be helpful, you can watch their behavior to see if they are predatory

https://beauregardparishcountrylife.wordpress.com/2015/06/11/comparison-between-leaf-footed-bug-and-milkweed-assassin-bug-nymphs/

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Good or bad bug ?
« on: November 21, 2017, 09:48:20 AM »
these are true bugs, in nymph stage, they suck plant juices, and can be problematic for certain crops...but some are assassin bugs that eat other bugs...and are beneficial...i can't tell which you have...but im leaning towards the ones that suck juices of plants

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« on: November 20, 2017, 02:55:09 PM »
nice collection Ispendtoomuchtimehere!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Garcinia gardneriana
« on: November 19, 2017, 10:55:46 PM »
that was a mix up, it turns out the small leaf Garcina gardneriana, is a superior form of Lemon drop mangosteen (G. brasiliensis), i really like this fruit a lot!

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i still think E. uniflora (zill dark), and E. involucrata (large fruited type) are my fav eugenias for eating out of hand.  I do like the E. candolleanas, but not quite as much.

here was a nice ZD pitanga this last season


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