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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Scary Video of Hurricane Maria in PR
« on: October 22, 2017, 07:54:51 AM »
Really gives you a taste of the ferocity of the wind:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1245&v=Ae96xf293Dc

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mosquito fruits??
« on: October 19, 2017, 05:44:38 PM »
"The Asian Tiger mosquito breeds in smaller shallower receptacles like halfed coconut shells, and as Oscar mentioned regular bromeliads."

You meant those Tigers are so smart that they will avoid fish tank and dirty pool for holed coconuts and bromeliads? I believe they will try to breed in any water bodies, and if there is a fish tank available 24/7 they will be shucked in slowly but steady.

Yes the Asian tiger mosquito will breed in large pools, but also in tiny collections of water. So your idea would reduce the numbers but not entirely eliminate them.

Agreed, but so does other fancier expensive methods: chemical spay or releasing neutered male. The cheap simple fish tank running 24/7 is like a bypass oil filter in the old Porsche 912 or 356.

So do I expect to see each of us has a fish tank? I just bough a large share of pet fish stock yesterday :)

If you are using barrels to catch rain water you can just add a few guppies to that for double duty as mosquito population reducers. I saw someone doing that and thought it was a good idea. Some day i would like to have a fish pond, but that's just another big project right now amongst many in the planning.
I don't have an outdoor tank. But i do use containers of water for my chickens, and empty them periodically, which also kills all the mosquito larvae. It helps, but there are still plenty of mosquitoes around. Best is to maintain vegetation free zones, or just lawn, around your house. If you plant bromeliads, or even bananas around your house, they easily breed in the water of fallen leaves. Also they like the shade created by any trees.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mosquito fruits??
« on: October 19, 2017, 03:09:58 AM »
"The Asian Tiger mosquito breeds in smaller shallower receptacles like halfed coconut shells, and as Oscar mentioned regular bromeliads."

You meant those Tigers are so smart that they will avoid fish tank and dirty pool for holed coconuts and bromeliads? I believe they will try to breed in any water bodies, and if there is a fish tank available 24/7 they will be shucked in slowly but steady.

Yes the Asian tiger mosquito will breed in large pools, but also in tiny collections of water. So your idea would reduce the numbers but not entirely eliminate them.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: About the Inga genus
« on: October 18, 2017, 05:38:29 PM »
Ingas will grow in very poor soils. Here they can grow right into the lava rock! They also drop tons of organic matter and enrich the soil that way, not just through nitrogen fixation.
In their native countries the fruits are sold in some markets. Some species are lots better and bigger than others. I think the main reason the potential of the fruits is not mentioned is just ignorance.
It might be interesting for you to know that while ingas are recommended for "saving" the forests they themselves are on the verge of extinction. The genus inga is very large, with between 250-300 species, and many of those are on the endangered list. I posted a list of endangered species of fruits on this forum, and the genus that has the most endangered species on that list is inga. So maybe some of those endangered species should be used for alley cropping?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mosquito fruits??
« on: October 18, 2017, 03:56:20 AM »
This is a problem with all bromeliads. Pineapples are a type of bromeliad. The types of bromeliads that hold a lot of water are much bigger problem than pineapples for breeding mosquitoes.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fall Fruit Plate 11 Different Fruits
« on: October 17, 2017, 01:39:28 AM »
Nice fruits, and nice to see you posting once again.  8)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mosquito fruits??
« on: October 17, 2017, 01:35:51 AM »
Depends on the type of mosquitoes in your area? Most would need a much bigger pool than that to breed. But some types, like the Asian tiger striped mosquitoes can breed in very tiny pools of water.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Annona spinescens germination
« on: October 15, 2017, 06:19:48 PM »
Mine came up really fast. BTW, funny looking seedlings. Don't look like other annonas.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Starfruit Question For Fruitlovers
« on: October 15, 2017, 05:15:12 AM »
All my trees are sweet types, so it will be sweet fruit. I can't tell you exact cultivar it came from, and there is variation from seed in any case. But seedlings from sweet types definitely produce sweet fruit. BTW tart type starfruits are almost non existent here now.

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The main problem is fungus growing on seeds that were not well cleaned. Pulp sticks a lot to the seed and is hard to get completely off. If they do a good job of  cleaning them then the second problem is that they start germinating in transit and they are seized by USDA, as germinated seeds are not allowed without a phyto.
So if you can get an excellent packer, they clean immediately after opening fruit, use very little moisture in packing, and use EMS shipping, then you stand a chance. I suggest you make a small order to try it out first.
Strangely enough some of the other species of durio last longer in mail than regular durian. So you have a better chance with these..

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: New Fruit Similar to Starapple
« on: October 07, 2017, 01:20:43 AM »
Hi Oscar,
How old is the tree and  at what age does it start to bear
fruit? I read somewhere in this thread it doesnt have a season and bear all year round.is it true?the skin looks thinner than chrysophyllum cainito and appears to have more flesh based on the image you posted.really amazes me the fruit flies dont attack those fruits

Now the tree is about 14 years old. It started fruiting when about 6 years. I would say it is fruiting about 9 months of the year.
For real!Thats almost year round fruiting.Star apples are rare in malaysia btw and its a seasonal fruit here.This fruit that you have here could be popular in the future since it is very productive and taste like star apple.Does it have a thick rind or thin rind? From the picture it looks thin like sappodilla or abiu skin.I prefer to plant fruits with thick rind due to oriental fruit fly infestation.I just chopped my sapodilla tree due to the fruit infected with maggots

Starapples fruit here also only 2-3 months out of the year. We have oriental fruit fly and never seen them on this fruit, unless they are cracked, even though it is thin skinned.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: New Fruit Similar to Starapple
« on: October 07, 2017, 01:18:34 AM »
is it as cold sensitive as the starapple?
Don't know.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: New Fruit Similar to Starapple
« on: October 06, 2017, 05:15:20 AM »
Hi Oscar,
How old is the tree and  at what age does it start to bear
fruit? I read somewhere in this thread it doesnt have a season and bear all year round.is it true?the skin looks thinner than chrysophyllum cainito and appears to have more flesh based on the image you posted.really amazes me the fruit flies dont attack those fruits

Now the tree is about 14 years old. It started fruiting when about 6 years. I would say it is fruiting about 9 months of the year.

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Adolf Grimal had a large pedalai tree in Key West, but i think it never fruited. It's quite good tasting, similar to marang. But as others have said the tree gets gigantic!

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Oscar, I'm really interested to find out how the Chucte fruit ended up tasting.  (If it has ripened.)

I guess you didn't see this? http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=4481.msg290725#msg290725
Ate lots of them. They are very rich in oil, between 25 and 28%, compared to between 7 and 21% for avocados. The taste is very nice. Main problem is they go bad really fast once ripe, don't keep as well as avos.


Oops, sorry I missed it!  That sounds great.  Was the flavor avocado-onion like or avocado-coconut like?  (Those were the two flavors that were described in the Jay Bost research papers.)

Would not describe the flavor in either of those ways. Would just say it tastes like a very rich (oily) avocado. But keep in mind there is a lot of diversity inside this species, and the ones Jay tasted were different than what i have.

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Oscar, I'm really interested to find out how the Chucte fruit ended up tasting.  (If it has ripened.)

I guess you didn't see this? http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=4481.msg290725#msg290725
Ate lots of them. They are very rich in oil, between 25 and 28%, compared to between 7 and 21% for avocados. The taste is very nice. Main problem is they go bad really fast once ripe, don't keep as well as avos.

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Bumper crop for durians, mangosteens did not fruit or are very late, avocados did really well, mangoes pretty good. I expect will be good year for rambutans also. This summer was a lot drier than usual and that helps many trees to initiate fruiting and cuts down on diseases when there is not heavy rains.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Can cherimoya grow in Vietnam?
« on: September 24, 2017, 03:02:50 AM »
I think Mikey is waiting for growers in tropical areas to tell him what happens if there's no chill hours. Will it die or just not set fruit.

Yes.  Please let me know your experiences in Florida.  Hawaii is able to grow them but I do not know if it is at higher elevation where there is chill.
They can fruit in Hawaii at  minimum 1000 ft. elevation but do better at above 2000 ft. I have some trees at 650 elevation and they fruit, but very little. No the plants don't die, they just don't fruit well. No they don't need chill in the traditional sense of temperate plant needing chill, which is below 45F. Never gets that cold here below 2000 ft. They are more like lychees than peaches in terms of temperature requirements.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: More Maui progress with Luc's garcinia
« on: September 21, 2017, 05:21:56 AM »
Guessing 3 years // planrs 6' tall
At 6 foot I'm guessing your plants are a lot more than 3 years old.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Star fruit juicer
« on: September 20, 2017, 03:04:24 AM »
Champion juicer works great and fast.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cut nut (Barringtonia edulis)
« on: September 19, 2017, 09:19:19 PM »
Got my seeds today , a 6 months germination time was mentioned ...

The way things are going now , two 7.1 quakes in less than a month in Mexico , powerful hurricanes one after another , not even wanna mention the political situation , N. Korea etc....I will still plant the seeds that is if Nibiru doesn't wipe us out on September 23 2017...lol...

Oscar , you mentioned ' cooking to be safe ' in an other post about Cut Nut ....why is that ?

So who else started these from seed and how long did they take to sprout ?
Don't remember that. I ate my cut nuts raw and they are delicious that way. Maybe you confused with another type of nut?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Can cherimoya grow in Vietnam?
« on: September 16, 2017, 09:38:20 PM »
Lots of fruits you don't see in Asia. That doesn't mean they can't grow  there. Many south American fruits are totally unknown there. I think atemoyas are worth a try. They grow at sea level here.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Can cherimoya grow in Vietnam?
« on: September 16, 2017, 09:07:14 PM »
Yes, for sure. But you need higher elevations. Starting points somewhere 600-700 meters  in tropics far from equator and roughly 1200 meters close to equator like Southern Vietnam. I've been having local Sri Lankan cherimoyas this entire past week even though we are clearly deep in tropics. Main production areas here at 2000 meters. Roughly 6000 feet elevation.

I wan to try to grow cherimoya in Ho Chi Minh city in a rural area call cu chi.  Please let me know if there are certain variety that can tolerate heat and rainy season.
No there is not. Try growing atemoyas instead. They are tropical.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rare pineapples
« on: September 15, 2017, 04:40:27 PM »
I am currently planting side shoots of the red pineapple, so hopefully next year i will have enough to sell to any forum member interested.

Awesome, sign me up for as many as possible. Is the flesh red as well?
No, only exterior is red. But is very good tasting. Will make announcement next summer when i'm ready to send some. Will have only very limited quantity.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Krasuey's Sapodilla
« on: September 15, 2017, 12:55:17 AM »
I've seen a few posts from Australia saying it is everbearing, sweet, and much better than Sao Manilla, etc.

Do you guys have any info on Krasuey's Sapodilla?  Anybody have it?



-Sonny
I have it. No Krasuey is not everbearing, at least not here. I would not say it is much better than Sao Manila.

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