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Hi, the tree is 4 years old or so, 4m high, it is flowering for the first time... some flowers just "die" and onthers have fruits. I didnt hand pollinated them

Why does it works?

maybe we have some interesting bug pollinating them?



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / tasting a "bad" ubajay for the first time...
« on: December 14, 2017, 12:38:51 PM »
A few weeks ago at Carlos Thays Botanical Garden I found ubajays on the ground and, as the perfume did not pleased me, it did not seem a good idea to eat them ... I barely bit one and it was very acidic, but other people wanted to taste them and they liked them, to this day I did not understand them...

Yesterday a friend harvested ubajays from their trees and he did not liked them either, so I asked him to give me some fruits to try: it did not seem so bad to me, they just have a very strong and acid flavor but there are other varieties that should be clearly superior, good and sweet (Miguel Pt and a nursery woman form Entre Rios).

For now I hope that my ubajays bear some fruit to see which one is the best - maybe I have the sweet variety given that a tree is from Entre Ríos and the nursery woman who sold it to me said that she has a good variety, with medlar (nispero) flavor. Then I will graft the trees of the acid variety with branches of the best variety, or perhaps I will leave them like this because I think that these acid fruits have a complex and interesting flavor tone to prepare ice cream ... in fact an overripe fruit had a much better perfume , similar to that of the uvaias, and I imagine that flavor prepared with a lot of sugar and I think it's fantastic for jams, sweets, candies ... it's a caramel-like taste but with something strange, with a strong "alcoholic" touch.

But if I try to ear them raw, natural: I dont like them.

I added some sugar and the almíbar from them was good








PD: my friend wants to kill his trees... hahaha, he will give them to me as a gift

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It surprises me that it is almost exactly like a normal cherry but with a myrtaceae touch!

Taste report and photos, inside of the fruit, etc., spanish:

http://www.huertasurbanas.com/2017/12/13/probando-cerella-por-primera-vez/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXVEdBdSfI0

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I planted it near a sete capotes and it looks so good! maybe next year we will have some fruit! Seeds from Hawaii

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Hi, the season is open! I will have several more species in the next months (http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=22466.50), but these pitanga varieties are very tasty so I am selling the seeds now.


* red eugenia uniflora, pitanga, no resinous taste at all, taste similar to tangerines, very productive
10  seeds USD 9
25  seeds USD 15
50  seeds USD 25
100 seeds USD 45




* black eugenia uniflora, pitanga negra, no resinous taste at all, acid and sweet similar to a grape
10  seeds USD 20
25  seeds USD 40




Shipping costs:
16 USD 30 days
20 USD 15 days

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Hi, I dont know if call them spine or thorn (they dont hurt you), but I dont have another jaboticaba species that has this little spine-like at the tip of the leaves. Similar to guaviyú too, but softer.

It looks like grimal or sabará or coronata, but I dont know what is it in fact... the seller (from Misiones) of these seedlings told me that it bears big fruits, that is the only data I have!














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Tropical Fruit Discussion / first psidium guyanense flowers!
« on: October 25, 2017, 12:46:45 PM »
The smell is similar to psidium cattleianum but I like it more (now that I have both, this smells sweeter), the flower is bigger (as the leaves and fruits!)



I call it arazá blanco, or white arazá, but I dont know if there is a popular name for it...

The last year we got just one fruit and I didnt noticed the flowers, now I know how nice they are :D

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Tasting more jaboticabas (video)
« on: October 10, 2017, 08:28:03 AM »
The fruits were very tasty, sweet and acid, not too acid, like a mix of grapes, guavas and plums (but they were harvested a bit unripe and they traveled for 4 days so I think they were in the starting stage of a fermentation... they had a "wine" taste too). Soft to the touch.

To me, they dont have the green crown in the apex that should have a myrciaria coronata fruit, maybe they are sabará...

My english is not too good, I never speak english! I sound like an arab (dont have nothing against them).


English video:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpHBFM-g5bY&t=1s

Spanish video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mo508ZRMSXI&t=5s





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Tropical Fruit Discussion / outstanding eugenia uniflora flowering
« on: October 02, 2017, 12:27:51 PM »
It is full of bees, I hope it will bear thousand of sweet fruits this spring! This is her best year so far.

A nice video, today (idk how to embed it here...):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jv4mS3vtsPA

Photos, yesterday:








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Hi dear forum members.

This method would be good for many species, but I am focusing now on jaboticabas, could you help us? There are many forum members that doesnt know what kind of jaboticaba are they growing, but if we could compare leaf venation, size, shape and other details, we should identify them properly!

* How can you help? (and we maybe can help you!)

Could you take some photos of the leaves? If you could take good near photos of leaves we can identify it properly.

It would be cool to have photos of your named m. cauliflora paulista, m. jaboticaba sabará, m. coronata, other species, and photos of unidentified jaboticabas (and or eugenias too!).

Any photo of the leaves would be fine, but it would be better if you can take photos like these:



I did that just with my cell phone using android, but you can do it with a normal camera or an iphone too:

How-to:

1) take a leaf of your plant and point it directly to the sun to show their veins
2) the camera should be in "flower" or "macro" mode to focus a near object! (in android, go to Auto --> PRO, Settings, Manual Focus, select the Flower icon)
3) focus your camera or cell phone to the leaf: the leaf should be between the sun and the camera
4) be sure to focus right! take a shot (as much shots as you think till it focus right)
5) upload it here!

your photo should look a bit like this:



There you can also see the sun behind, I let it there just for explaining purposes


A good photo should look like this (although the tip is not visible, it should ideally be seen):





Here you can get some clues of myrtaceae leaf taxonomy (spanish doc):

http://www.scielo.org.ar/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S1851-23722011000100004

For instance:




We can work together and find what we really have!


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / First jaboticaba flower buds??????
« on: September 16, 2017, 12:25:25 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzV_AsyRJpU&feature=youtu.be










This tree is maybe 6 to 8 years old, 2cm thick in the base of the main trunk.

http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=25386.0

Adam S. identified it as myrciaria cauliflora, jaboticaba paulista...

Do you think It is having its first flower buds right now?

it would be so............... awesome!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / is there a taxonomist here?
« on: September 12, 2017, 03:43:37 PM »
Hi

I would like to learn taxonomy in terms of leaf architecture in order to identify the species I am finding... so, could anyone teach, help or give examples? I can take good photos of the venaria of Myrtaceae and other families ...

I hope so...

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I simply want to share my amazement at this jaboticaba that produces pure reddish leaves a few days before spring, and has never given me problems at direct sun or water from the city (very easy to grow, unlike any other). Now it must be something like 6 years old and I hope it will fructify soon, although I know it could take 3 or 4 years more ... it measures 70cm in height and the thickness of the trunk is 2cm (a little less than 2 inches)










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Tropical Fruit Discussion / ID: myrciaria delicatula or what?
« on: September 11, 2017, 01:21:48 PM »
In this photo from http://www.scielo.org.ar/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S1851-23722011000100004 sou can see A and B, are myrciaria delicatula:



And this is from my plant:











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Hi, I think that these are the first photos of psidium guyanense (not guineense!) flower buds on the net!

It flowers along with psidium cattleianum, so we now know how is its season. The fruit is very tasty, sweet and juicy, similar to p. cattleianum but bigger and with bigger seeds.







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Tropical Fruit Discussion / psidium to ID
« on: August 13, 2017, 04:20:48 PM »
Hi, I got this psidium from a collector and he think it is very rare and unknow... but, would you know what is it?









When I broke a leaf, I smelled it and chewed it, it had a pleasant aroma and taste, unlike all the other 10 psidium I have ... more like p. Eugeniaefolia than the rest, and less bitter than the rest ... The aroma was interesting, similar to that of psidium longipetiulatum, but less strong, and stronger than psidium cattleianum. Definitely not any of the ones I had:
It is not:
Friedrichsthalianum
Longipetiolatum
Eugeniaefolia
Sartoriarum
Cattleianum
Guineense
Guyanese
Guajava
Australe

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / ID: jaboticaba oblongata or aureana?
« on: August 13, 2017, 03:17:16 PM »
Hi, I got this jaboticaba from a collector that thinks that it could be aureana or oblongata, what do u think?












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Hi, this is good news: I just ate one fruit that fall from the tree 1 week or more days ago, maybe 10 days ago, I cant remember. It was getting too hard/yellowish and I thought it was unedible, but I peeled it with a knife and inside it was dark yellow, with a "firm" soft, not juicy pulp and it was nice (very similar to jaboticabas in this overripe stage!).  I wrote "amazing" because most of the myrtaceae I know cant last more than 2 or 3 days being edible.

Normally, when you eat them just ripe, out of the tree or fallen, they have a green gelatinous and juicy pulp, acid and sweet, but this was not gelatinous and no green.

To me this is very interesting because maybe another campomanesia species could be of comercial use if they can last more than 1 week being edible!

We are in the middle of the winter, it produced just a few now.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / new jaboticaba to ID
« on: May 12, 2017, 09:52:36 PM »
Being that Adam is not checking the forum, it would be difficult to ID this jaboticaba, but I will post it anyway... there are a lot of forum members that grow jaboticabas and there are some "maniacs" and jaboticabaholics here so I have some hope...


The leaves remember me the red jaboticaba (myrciaria aureana x myrciaria cauliflora), but this is not possible as the source is from Misiones and almost nobody grows red jaboticaba here at Argentina. So I am thinking it could be myrciaria cauliflora or something similar... but I am not good identifying plants.




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Hi, I am still harvesting some fruits (myrcia selloi, eugenia repanda, arazá-una, sete capotes, psidium australe) and have many fresh seeds of them and other species to sell.

So I'm dropping prices, 50% off

* Angola guava (psidium guajava) (New, march 2017)
20 seeds (USD 4  )
40 seeds (USD 7)



* Psidium guyanense (or psidium spp.) (NEW 24 march 2017) VERY RARE
5 seeds, 7 USD

NOTE: it is not psidium guineense! they are more rare, psidium guyanense, the fruit is bigger, leaves are much different -shiny, brilliant- and to me it is easier to grow / more hardy! The flavour to me is really better than guineense (more complex and similar to strawberry guava).




* Araçá do folha marrom (psidium australe)  VERY RARE
10 seeds: 8 USD



* Black Eugenia Repanda,  VERY RARE, justr a few left
5 seeds (USD 7)
10 seeds (USD 13)



* myrcia selloi,  VERY RARE, out of stock
5 seeds (USD 5)
10 seeds (USD 9)




* Araçá-una / black strawberry guava or purple forest guava (psidium eugeniaefolia),  VERY RARE
10 seeds: 7 USD
20 seeds: 12 USD



* Red Strawberry guava (psidium cattleianum var sabine)
20 seeds (USD 2)
40 seeds (USD 3)
80 seeds (USD 6)




* Yellow lemon guava (psidium cattleianum var lucidum) (New, march 2017), 2 varieties
20 seeds (USD 3)



* Organge tamarillo (solanum betaceum) (New, may 2017),
20 seeds (USD 3)



* Sete capotes (campomanesia guazumifolia) out of stock
5 seeds (USD 5)
10 seeds (USD 9)





* Jiló (solanum gilo)
20 seeds (USD 3)
40 seeds (USD 4)




* Aguaymanto (physalis peruviana)
20 seeds (USD 3)




I accept paypal, WU, bitcoins, etc.

Shipping cost is aprox. 10 USD for light mails (dry seeds) 30 days service, and 16 (less than 20gr) or 20 USD (up to 150 gr) for 15 days service.

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Hi, today is an exiting day for me!

This is NOT psidium guineense, nor psidium cattleianum,it is rare.

I went to my backyard to watch the trees and walked directly to my unknow psidium spp. (maybe p. guyanense), touch the fruit, saw it was getting yellow but it was soft to the touch (maybe just ripe or maybe the worms were doing their job...), so I moved it a bit and it fell down.








Sweet and acid, 12º Brix, the gelatinous pulp sticks to the seeds just as strawberry guava, similar taste to this one, and the leaves of the plant are similar too.












If you never tasted strawberry guava and you cant compare/imagine the flavour, I would say it tastes like guava+tomato or you can compare it to a pear, very similar experience.

It reminded me the white asian guava I tasted one year ago, it was the best I had, but this one is more acid, making it very good for juices, icecreams and mermelades.

It had just 2 fruit fly worms inside, but that means that the fruit would be tastier and sweeter without worms that dont allow it to ripe just fine. It was not too much damaged. Seeds are bigger than tropical guavas and strawberry guavas I know, 4mm to 5mm diameter.

So, I think this is a very good species, it grows very fast and bears in 3 years, 1m tall. I really dont know about its frost resistance, but here at my backyard It had no problems at -1ºC.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / mistery tree to ID
« on: March 10, 2017, 10:04:44 AM »
Hi, this tropical mistery is from a friend that grows a lot of rare tropical fruit trees, but we really dont know what could it be... maybe an hybrid?

When it didnt had fruits, I tought of LULO, the leaves are very similar to lulo (solanum quitoense), but its elongated fruits now seem to be a tamarillo...




what do you think?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / jaboticaba ID, from Paraguay
« on: February 27, 2017, 12:54:20 PM »
Hi, I think I posted this species before: we cant identify them. If some of you knows what could it be, please tell me.










8 years old, no fruits yet, we have 10 of them

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / rare myrtaceae to ID
« on: February 14, 2017, 05:45:54 PM »
Hi, this rare myrtaceae seems to be an eugenia, we believed it was eugenia involucrata, but the fruits are smaller en with not much pulp








and taste was bitter...

what do you think it could be?

My friend bought it at Misiones, this is not a tree of mine

Thanks in advance

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Hi, I am amazed...



5 months in a mail... from USA... the customs at my country are very bad...

but they are alive, at least one of the 4 seeds sprouted roots and also had (white) leaves, 2 others seem to be alive and the other left was just empty.



I hope I can grow it in a good way, I will put it in the shade and water with rain water.

Cheers

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