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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tagging trees
« on: March 24, 2017, 10:00:59 PM »
I print out the name on 72pt font in WORD.  Then laminate it and staple it to a stake and put one at the base of each tree.  Ypu can get a laminate machine on amzon for 20$

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado pits stuck? Fruits falling
« on: March 22, 2017, 09:05:27 PM »
I think you right mark.  Trees are young and I need more mulch.  The mulch is a never ending chore.   Its a pain to move the mulch to the trees too.  Have to walk up and down 20 stairs with 50 gal buckets.  Wish I could drop it by helicopter.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado pits stuck? Fruits falling
« on: March 22, 2017, 06:08:42 PM »
Thanks for the replys everyone.  Tomorrow I will cut a fruit and post a photo.  Its a strange thing that none of the other fruits have done so far.  But all of them from this tree have it.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado pits stuck? Fruits falling
« on: March 22, 2017, 05:31:31 PM »
I don't typically water that often.  Just trying to give my youngest trees that were planted over winter a good start during the heat spell we had.  Normally I only water once a week or so during the height of summer with maybe a quick squirt in between heavy waterings for the ypunger trees.  My soil drains so well though, it would probably be hard to over water.  Now that its cool again I will be watering less.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado pits stuck? Fruits falling
« on: March 22, 2017, 04:02:06 PM »
Simon, I had typed the last post while you were replying.  I was watering every other day heavily during the heat.  Maybe my larger trees just need a bit more but some of the other types look ok.  All the hass look like that.

Here are more trees on the same line.


1 pinkerton I picked and 4 dropped hass

Sir Prize 1 year old

6 mo old holiday

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado pits stuck? Fruits falling
« on: March 22, 2017, 03:55:32 PM »
  May have been thirsty but I dont really think thats it but maybe.  I have been watering quite a bit with the heat we have had.  All the trees are on the same sprinkler line and I have been giving extra to keep the younger trees happy.  Ive got a well and good draining soil so Im not shy with the water.  Im not as worried about the fruit drop as I am the sticking seeds.  The tree is holding the remaining fruit now that its cooled down. 

I will let another fallen fruit get fully soft then cut it and post a photo.

In the mean time here are some photos of my trees.  The large ones are 2 years old.  The smaller ones range from a few months old to a year or so old.

Soil is damp and full of healthy roots and worms.

It seems like Bacon and hass are dropping leaves but not the other varieties yet.  I thik the leaf drop is perfectly normal.  All the trees are flushing new leaves and flowers now.


Fuerete no leaf drop yet

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado pits stuck? Fruits falling
« on: March 22, 2017, 12:16:26 PM »
My trees are shedding all their leaves and are in full bloom.  The fruit was on the tree about 1 year exactly.  New fruits are setting now.  I will cut one open and post a photo.  The tree is still young but so far none of the other varieties have had these issue.  All of the trees are around 2 years old.  Sorry not the greatest photo of the tree.  Its 6 or 7ft tall and wide.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Avocado pits stuck? Fruits falling
« on: March 21, 2017, 11:26:57 AM »
I have a 2 year old hass tree that had a half dozen or so fruits on it.  Wasnt planning to start picking them for another couple months but they have started falling off the tree.  The do ripen and taste great but they all have a pit that sticks to the flesh.  They are not splitting and coming in half easily.  There is a hard part still in the flesh connected to the pit.

2 questions.  Is the tree dropping fruit because it is just immature?  I suspect that is the case.  We had a heatwave here also and the old leaves are shedding and the trees are blooming. 

The second question is whats going on with the seeds and the bad flesh sticking to the pit?  Hopefully this goes away when yhe fruits hang longer or I will probably end up taking the tree out or regrafting it.   

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: worm castings
« on: March 20, 2017, 06:58:53 PM »
As long as its wet the worms will hang out.  Im not doing anything special.  The soil here is all decomposed granite.  Not exactly earthworm haven but they will come if you add a minimal amount of wood chips or compost on top. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: worm castings
« on: March 20, 2017, 02:33:05 PM »
I can grab and handful of my vegetable garden soil or avocado mulched decomposed granite soil and always get a handful of worms.  Its easier to put the scraps/compost/mulch directly in your garden soil or orchard soil and let the worms take care of things.  IMO

Very cool Mark.  You have good things going on there.  I have a lot of pine trees here.  They do take some water though.  Our average rainfall is probably half or less than yours and its hit and dry.  Eucalyptus is maybe a better choice here.  But all of it will explod in case of a wildfire.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: worm castings
« on: March 18, 2017, 08:00:25 PM »
What experience has anybody had  using worm castings as a soil supplement for growing fruit trees? Results?

I have used them for vegetable gardens and throw a few big scoops in when planting a few avocado trees.  Its certainly good stuff.  Its also not cheap.  You can get similar results for less money by putting down a layer of compost and then mulch when planting your trees.  The worms will move the organic matter down and poop it out for you.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 100 Mango Varieties planted
« on: March 17, 2017, 06:50:59 PM »
Wow, thats quite the collection.  I guess you are Australias top mango collector?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Top these cherimoyas?
« on: March 17, 2017, 05:54:13 PM »
Ok I lopped them all off at 24in or lower.  Do my mangos need the same treatment?  A few of them are 4 or 5ft tall before any branching. 

Exotica is a jungle, been there seen that.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Top these cherimoyas?
« on: March 17, 2017, 03:02:19 PM »
By the way, I am not really planning to do multi grafting.  Or any grafting.  With grafted trees costing 25$ at the nursery and acres of land there isnt much point for me to bother I think.  I already have more projects than I want here.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Top these cherimoyas?
« on: March 17, 2017, 02:59:54 PM »
Something feels really wrong about stumping the trees.  You guys are certain more branches will form even if there are currently no bud sites that low?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Top these cherimoyas?
« on: March 17, 2017, 10:21:55 AM »
Well all 6 cherimoya trees I planted over fall and winter made it.  Every single one of them was NOT rootbound at all.  They all pretty much fell apart when taken out of the nursery pots and I was concerned I damaged roots etc transplanting them.  But they have all started to push new branches and leaves out.  They all got beaten and battered in the rain/wind/cold and had dropped all leaves.  I thought they might have died.  But it looks like they are all alive and well.  Temperatures here the last 6 days:  90, 92, 95, 92, 90, 88.  The heat is making everything grow.  I planted 6 mangos over winter also and all are growing and budding now too.

So the question is, is now a good time to go ahead and trim them down and start shaping them?

Varieties of cherimoyas planted:
2 honeyhart
1 vietnamese
1 Dr White
1 Fino De Jete
1 Booth

If these do well as my avocados I will probably put in 10 or 20 more of them.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Shade tolerant fruit trees?
« on: March 16, 2017, 05:20:32 PM »
My parents' fig and guava fruits okay with only morning sun. I would think wax jambu would do okay as well with those broad leaves. Not sure about pomegranate with those small leaves. The pomegranate one row away from the fig is fruiting fine as well. It gets sun until maybe 2pm.

Guava do well in part shade.  Raspberries also. Pomegranite will need decent sun.  Even bananas can take some shade.

I hear sun rays are cancerous too.  And southern CA air.  And the flouride and chlorine in city water....   Its a scary world out there.

Mark, I thought your second photo was a tomato tree for a second there.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Bacon blooms
« on: March 10, 2017, 05:37:40 PM »
Sure, I don't know much about grafting but the trees are already pruned now.  They are going to grow hard until October or so then need to be pruned more then. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Bacon blooms
« on: March 10, 2017, 12:12:35 PM »
The bacon tree is supposed to be a good B type pollinator tree.  Also have one fuerte tree that is supposed to be a pollinator.  I will let the tree grow one more year before holding fruit.  The 2 year old Hass trees are massive.  They should set a lot of fruits this year.

List of avocado trees in my garden:
Hass x 6
Reed x 6
Pinkerton x 2
Sir Prize x 2
Holiday x 2
Lamb Hass

My neighbor in 9B in east county has lots of coffee, bananas, and moringa growing no problem.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Bacon blooms
« on: March 09, 2017, 05:35:17 PM »
Most prolific bloomer of the bunch.  Most mediocre avocado...

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: My cherries are blooming in sync!
« on: March 08, 2017, 04:23:39 PM »
Very nice!

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