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I'm looking for the following,can someone help?

2 x white sapphire
2 x mr woo
2 x phoenix red
2 x connie mayer
2 x asunta 1
5 x condor
2 x zamorano
2 x florida sunset
2 x nicaraguan red
2 x bien hoa red
2 x orejona
2 x soul kitchen ,
2 x peruvian white
2 x white king vietnam

Send me a msg, I have a few of those.  Will have more of them available in a few months.

If you want the very best grow lights you need COB leds.  They are the closest thing to real sunlight.  They arent cheap but they are super efficient and make white light that plants need to grow.  Each COB has many small LEDs on it tuned to different wavelengths so you get a perfectly tuned spectrum.
 3500K rating will be like pure sunlight. 

This place sells them.

If you want the next best thing that is a bit cheaper but less efficient try searching for ceramic metal halide lamps. They have them on amazon.

The purple china LEDs on amazon will work but the purple light is terrible to be around.  And it may draw unwanted attention from neighbors if thats an issue.  Trust me on this, get a light that makes white sun like color.  Its so much more pleasant to be around.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado tree water requirements
« on: January 14, 2018, 09:27:31 AM »
Mature trees can take  up to 400 gallons per week.

If you dont water them they wilt and the fruit falls off within a few days.  I have had my trees wilt and drop fruit after not watering for 4 or 5 days of really hot dry windy weather.

If you water after they wilt they do come back quickly.  If you continue to not water the leaves will die and the wood will turn black and tree will eventually die.  If you water just enough to keep the tree from wilting it will slow the trees growth and you will not get good fruit production.  They also get salt burn with insufficient watering schedule.  The pro avocado farmers will do excess irrigation periodically to leech the soil of salts.  They may even go so far as to use special devices that pull water from the soil so they can monitor the TDS and EC levels of the ground water in the rootzone.

This water requurement all depends on how hot it is, how windy it is, and how low the relative humidity in the air is.  Also the quality of the irrigation water.   When its hot, dry and windy the trees perspire a lot.  They do take more water than some plants and less than say a banana.  There is a lot of leaf material on avocados and a lot of fruit.  They need to metabolize a lot of sunshine and water to be productive.

We are still picking guavas.  Ate one last night.  The trees did a few fruit sets and there has been a steady supply of fruit coming for months now. They do not all ripen at once.  I think you will have better luck with shaded guavas in san diego than in northern CA. 

We planted 3 trees.  2 of them make excellent fruits, the 3rd one is terrible and is getting removed.  The one tree with bad fruit makes green fruits that never ripen and taste like cardboard but its sitting in full sun next to the others.

They should fruit for you in partial shade.  I have a neighbor with about 30 of them tightly spaced and shading each other into a canopy on the north side of a hill.  They sell theirs at market.   Have another neighbor that lives on the north slope and has several guava trees also in a packed orchard with partial shade. 

I have a few but mine are in full sun.  We have been eating guava since October.  The trees are very productive at a young age.  We got about 100 larget fruits off of each of our 1 year old trees and we had thinned the fruit set.   You can probably get better production in your shade area if you do heavy thinning.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Should I buy a grafted loquat tree?
« on: January 12, 2018, 08:45:07 PM »
Walter anderson sometimes has them.  You can also get them at clausons and atkins or the other nurseries up in the farming towns in north county.  Bonita creek may have them also.

I was going to buy one from atkins last time I was there but forgot to buy it before I left.  Had several items and forgot. 

I had a champaigne loquat tree from walter andersons but the jack rabbits chewed it up and it died.   

If you go get one post back what you get.  I still would like to get one of these trees at some point.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Should I buy a grafted loquat tree?
« on: January 12, 2018, 06:33:00 PM »
Most that I see are grafted and named.  Big jim, champaigne etc.

I would get a grafted one personally.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Diy hoop bender measurements?
« on: January 09, 2018, 11:05:09 AM »
ThangBom, you can take a string of 10ft length and pin one end down.  Now put a chalk on the other end and swing it around and draw a circle with it.  Now you have your curved part.  You can make it as long as you want. 

My 20ft bender is just sitting around not used now I am done with my project.  I could sell it to you at a discount if you wanted it.  I doubt I will be using it again.  Send a PM if you want it. 

And honestly, I don't think its worth your time to try and build one.  They have a very affordable one on

The one I got was the mid grade one with a stand for it.  You can bend a hoop in about 30 seconds with it.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My first taste of Dr. White cherimoya
« on: January 08, 2018, 10:59:20 PM »
2 lb cherimoyas very nice Samu, that would cost a small fortune at the market.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: A stroll through the yard
« on: January 08, 2018, 10:56:06 PM »
Nice fruit collection JF!  Looks like your trees are very happy.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Please help ID this avocado
« on: January 08, 2018, 05:02:26 PM »
It looks almost exactly like the bacons I picked.  Yes they do get very large.  Most you see at the farmers market are quite small.  Minte were about 1.5  - 2lbs.  And well, they were Bacon avocados.  Not great but not bad.

I regret not taking photos of the ones that came off my tree.  They are all gone now but the tree is blooming and there should be more for next year. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: To eat or not to eat??
« on: January 08, 2018, 03:17:45 PM »
Its edible, I have one and tried a few.  Its like very bland dragon fruit.  Its fine to try.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Please help ID this avocado
« on: January 08, 2018, 11:46:58 AM »
I can see it is a large fruit.  Bacons do get that large.  I pulled several bacons and fuertes that size off my trees last month.

The shape and skin look like a large bacon.  If you have photos of the tree it could help also.  Bacon trees make really big clusters of flowers.  And very aggressive avocado weed tree.

I would guess bacon genetics but of course it could be anything if its a seedling. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Please help ID this avocado
« on: January 08, 2018, 11:23:44 AM »
Looks pretty similar to bacon and fuerte.  Awfully shinny though.  May need more time on the tree.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherimoya prices skyrocketing
« on: January 06, 2018, 01:02:25 PM »
4$ a pound in poway today at the farmers market.  Picked up a few good lookers.

Cherry of rio grande, coffee

Thangbom, check out "rocket mass heaters".  Thats what I want to put in mine for heat.  Its a bit of learning to make one but they are very cool.  The fire burns super hot to the point there is no ash or smoke.  Only CO2 and water come out.  An exhaust line is buried and coved with rocks or bricks (mass) and heated through the day and then released at night.  Youtube has videos. 

There is some permaculture farm place in Missouri that has some video on greenhouse application and video on youtube.  And they have a website with photos. 

A wood stove will work also but you have to route the exhause upwards and out which makes the roof or end wall design more difficult.

I will try and dig up a rocket mass heater video for you.  You may like it enough to try one somewhere else on your homestead also.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado thread
« on: December 28, 2017, 12:29:14 PM »
Reed is very vigorous for me and a must-have in your collection.  Sir Prize has a bit different fruit character, both really sooooooo fine.   Oro Negro is good perhaps a 6.5 out 10 rating.  My Gwen is a true runt and another very good fruit.  Very productive such that it needs thinning.

Against the grain I use a 12 mo. encapsulated 18-4-9 with micros.  I might tweek it come late fall with a Peters 20-3-19.

Brad, try letting it go black and then pick immediately.  Would like to know if yours ripen ultra fast.  That first one I picked could have been cut in only 2 days for a better quality fruit.  Have 3 more hanging with one on the counter coming in at 12.0 oz.  This is fun!

I will try it if they ever turn black.  They are fully green still here.  Not sure what the hold up is.  Maybe because its still 80F outside.  Im hanging out in shorts and sandals still.  My oranges are not turning orange yet either.  Usually they are ready now. 

I got a 50lb bag of osmocote pro 8-9 month 19-5-8 sitting on the shelf.  I may try some of that on my in ground trees this coming spring.  I like the time release for potted plants a lot.

Hi Thangbom, for your 20ft hoop bender, 3 pieces of pipe will be about 30' 6".  And the radius of the hoop and the height of your tunnel would be about 10'. 

If you are still wanting to make it 12 feet tall, you will need taller anchor posts or you could use 3 and a half top rails and make the hoops 35' instead of 30'.  Then bend them so there is 2.5' of straight on each end. 

Whatever you decide, you should give yourself at minimum 1ft extra of poly to work with on all 4 sides.  You may want to build your hoops and get them in the ground then order the poly once you know exactly how much to order.  You will have plenty of time to work on poly rails and end walls while they ship you the poly.  This is a time consuming project.

For the anchors, I made my anchors 18" (1.5 ft) long and got my holes dug and concreted with at least a foot of concrete on every 1-5/8" anchor post.  My ground is full of granite where I put the hoop house and I had to jackhammer it out to concrete it.  If your soil is easily diggable, you will want to go much deeper than I did.  You will need 2ft in the earth if its soft clay and no rocks.  You will have to decide.  If the ground is soft and your location is easily accesible, rent a auger to dig deep holes easily.  It will be worth the rental cost.  If you dont concrete each post will you still dig a hole or will you hammer those ones in?  If already digging, just use concrete on them. 

You can make concrete cheap if you can get to a material supply yard that sells recycled concrete.  Its crushed up concrete and sells for 20$ a ton here.  I use that and mix it 5 parts recycle concrete to 1 part portland cement.  Its 4 or 5 times cheaper than buying bags of concrete at the store.  Get 100lbs sacks of portland cement at home depot for every 500lbs of recycle concrete.

And to save time and cost, just smoosh the bottom of the anchor post or bend them to keep them in place instead of screws. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado thread
« on: December 27, 2017, 05:56:00 PM »
Nice one Mark,  weird your skin is sticking.  It peels right off mine.  My fuertes stick like you are saying though.  I picked another green Sir Prize and its on the counter now.  They are all still green.  Had a bacon get over ripe.  Been eating hass, bacon, fuerte, and 2nd Sir Prize is coming. 

Samu, thats a bummer, I had lots of hass knock off in the santa anas.  It seems the key is to water water water for that weather.

Boxturtle Reed is a medium fast grower.  They grow pretty fast if they arent holding fruits. If its in full sun it should hit its stride next summer.

 I quit fertilizing back in September but its been so hot they could use a feeding probably.  Any citrus/avocado food will work.  Usually hit them every few months with a few handfulls of fertilizer on the mulch and then water it in.  Was hoping we would get some rain soon to leach out the soil but its not looking like much rain this winter.

Also noteworthy is even if you can keep them alive, Avocado trees tend to look lanky and sickly in colder areas.  Farther north with cold temps is not go to make a nice producing healthy tree most likely.  Even if it doesn't die, it may just be barely hanging on.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Wind-resistant shade house design
« on: December 26, 2017, 10:57:46 AM »
You could copy my hoop house design and use shade cloth instead of plastic.  It will take the wind and keep animals out.  Theres a thread called hoop house with photos down the page.

People in northern California grow Mexicola and it is more cold tolerant than other avocados.  Its going to die in single digit temps.  They are supposed to be good to low 20s F.  Theres tons of info out there on this if you google Mexicola.  Its not a scam to sell more trees, these trees are native to mountains in Mexico where it gets colder.

If you are going to plant 1 or 2 for the family, go ahead and plant them and cross your fingers.  Whats the worst that will happen?  If you are going to plant a 100 of them, don't.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Growing fruit trees in pots
« on: December 24, 2017, 04:52:49 PM »
It looks like a good idea to use that.  The only issue may be it is not PH neutral.  Best to test water soaked in that in a bucket.  Then rinse and see if you can change the ph.  It maybe PH neutral, you just need to test and see.  They have cheap 10$ PH tester pens or liquud test kits on amazon if you dont already have one.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Cherimoya seeds
« on: December 24, 2017, 01:52:41 PM »
The fruit looks good! Can you tell us the variety? Thanks!


Don't know sorry.  Picked up from one of the farm vendors.

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