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What does elevation do for cherimoyas?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit Hunting in Africa - Where to go?
« on: April 25, 2017, 12:05:21 PM »
I hear somalia is nice this time of year. 

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I would move before everyone starts listing their houses.  All those citations would have me out of there ASAP. 

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Florida Prince peach
« on: April 23, 2017, 09:41:22 PM »
Love this tree.  Fruit should be ready in a few weeks.  Sweetest peches ever!  I thined them down to 1/3 of what had set and its still loaded.






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You should build a raised bed or large mound and use imported dirt.  You want something that can drain well.  Get decomposed granite and mix a little conpost with it in a 1 to 2 ft tall raised bed.  Maybe 4ft x 4ft square.  Use 2x12 lumbers

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Maybe enough people grow citrus at home there is not enough retail market.  I quit buying orange juice once it got above 3 or 4$ a gallon.  We still buy the mandarin oranges rom the store but are working towards never having to buy those again either.  What amazes me when i drive around here is how much water and resources are spent on trees that don't produce fruit.  Imagine how cheap fresh fruit would be if all these business parks etc were growing fruit trees instead of ornamentals.  It doesnt make much sense really.  Especially in CA where all the trees need irrigation.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Anyone grow melons in South Florida
« on: April 21, 2017, 05:13:54 PM »
Going to do 6 plants in a bed as suggested and also throw 10 or 15 more out on a hillside in a row or 2.  Will dig a horizontal trench behind/above them to flood irrigate on the hill. Also hoing to put in a bunch of pumpkins.  We will see if the rabbits mess with them.  Can't hurt to try I guess.  We have a friend that is hooked on frozen water melon.  She is always bringing us things and doing computer work for us.  So I plant extra crops to share with her.  This years gift crop is water melon and 8 types of heirloom tomatos. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Anyone grow melons in South Florida
« on: April 21, 2017, 11:29:15 AM »
I got a pack of sugar baby seeds and have several plants started in pots waiting to be transplanted into raised beds.  Never grown them before.  A question for you guys that grow them.  How many do I pack into a 4x8 ft bed? 

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Tropical Vegetables and Other Edibles / Re: Worm management
« on: April 20, 2017, 08:47:16 PM »
Mulching and keeping it wet will keep the worms happy.  We don't have worms where I am at either except for where I have mulched and am watering.  The worms will work on breaking down the mulch.  The soil here is decomposed granite.  Much like most of northern baja.

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Tropical Vegetables and Other Edibles / Re: Agave tequiliana
« on: April 20, 2017, 07:28:41 PM »
I have a number of agave plants and noticed the first bloom spoke ever this week.  It s huge.  Took nearly 7 years.   Is any one else growing these? 

I seem to recall reading about chopping the bloom spike off - if the plant's spikes don't chop me first - to get they plant to live on and 'fruit'.

Anyone?

I am growing several species of agave and also hae wild agaves all over my property.  None of them are tequila agaves though.  Those ones are MASSIVE.  I had some blue americanas in my yard that go out of hand and we took them out. 


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This is the valve we just installed for our 5hp pump.  Very curious to see how it performs for domestic and irrigation purposes.

Nice setup, but why the 5 HP pump?  How many feet/miles of irrigation pipe are you going to run?

Just a note, I too use the PVC ball valves which need replacement from time to time.  If you have any sand, no matter how fine, that plastic ball will eventually show grooves.  Brass/S/S valves are way better.   I know, they're expensive as hell but in the long run they save on labor and time.

I love Grundfos submersible pumps.  Like I said my 1 HP kicks butt and is really overkill.   For the house and other structures (greenhouse, store, etc.) I have the Grundfos Constant Water system.   With the touch of a button you  can change the PSI from 40 to 110 on the console, turn it off, has internal diagnostics, dry well control, etc.  It's a DC pump connected to 110V AC such that the voltage supply is used to talk back and forth to the control console and computer in the pump housing.  A pressure transducer in line measures the pressure and tells a computer in the pump how much RPM's to turn.  So, if you're brushing your teeth (low demand) the pump spins slowly.  If the transducer senses that 4 two inch lines are open and you need full output it spins at 12,000 RPM.  Mine has been active going on 13 years.

Also, jerry rigging a 4' long PVC tube skirt by clamping it to the bottom of the pump will insure very little debris intake as the pump kicks in, hits the side of the well with its torque, etc.

I love the 4' long straw idea for the well pump.  Brilliant.  You should patent and sell it.  You will be a millionaire.

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MrTexas - the landscape stones is a good idea. Your irrigation suggestions are a little more familiar to me than Spaugh's because I have installed a Rainbird irrigation system for my potted plants.

I use rainbird sprinkler controllers and rainbird pro 1" anti syphon valves.  All stuff from home depot.  Just bigger pipes than a small yard would have. Nothing exotic. 

Your property will have a big pipe probably 1" or 1.5".  Just ask them to bring the full unrestricted pipe out to the grow area.  Then you will have the largest pipe that can flow the most water at once to work with.  You don't want to choke the main gardening supply line down at all.  Its very convenient to run everything at the same time if possible. 

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Best mandarin recommendations?
« on: April 18, 2017, 05:47:54 PM »
The trees definitely had the bugs, she showed them to me.  She said they left a notice the trees were infected with haunglongbing and the psyllids.  Its possible they don't have HLB.  I don't really know, I am only going by what they told me.  I was shocked when they were telling me this.  I though it was contained to los angeles.  Apparently all the trees in lakside have the asian psyllids.  The AG department came in their backyard when they weren't home and inspected their trees and left them a note.  I will ask again exactly what the note said.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Best mandarin recommendations?
« on: April 18, 2017, 03:22:02 PM »
I was wondering the same thing.  They definitely has the asian psyllids.  They said they have HLB but they could be confused and not realize the bugs are just what can potentially spread it.  They don't know anything about their trees so not sure.  I was pretty surprised when they told me they have hlb.  Maybe they just have the bugs?  I will aska again.  Apparently all the trees have the bugs in lakeside. 

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You can grow a lot of crap on half an acre trust me.  You will be a busy guy.  Do you know what size pipe your meter is?  I assume you get a pipe and meter for your house like they do it out here.  You probably want to get a 1" pipe and have 3 or 4 stations T off of it for later use on all your gardening stuff.  At least have them pop up several 1" pvc stubs and cap them off around where you will need it for sprinkler valves and hose bibs.  You can never have too many pipes and water around.  Have them put in 6 or 12 conductor sprinkler control wire along the pipe while the trenches are ipen for later use too.  You will want a sprinkler controller or 2 back at a 120v power source then run the 12 conductor line from there to where you need valves for your food trees.

This is a really, really good idea. I regret not running the wire... now I have to go back and trench in the wire. Its only maybe 2000 feet of wire....only.

Frank, what do you need sprinklers for?  Dont you get enough rain to grow everything with?  Seemed like it rained all the time when we visited your island.

We are on a dry spell. Dug a trench today, 2.5feet down, it was like flour.... I finished trenching irrigation and immediately got the hose to water trees. I think this year we had a couple solid rains, but we are way under typical rainfall (for this year its been maybe 8", when its typically 40"+). The problem is it rains 4" in an hour, and then nothing for 4 weeks. The whole island is sloped with natural swales that go to larger swales so there is little water retention before its gone in the ocean.  A pond to catch rain water would help.

All the people vacationing must love it... for farmers its pretty bad. Cattle have to be moved, trees watered, grass is dying... it will bounce back. Just have to hold on.

When things get this dry, I get this eerie feeling about winter hurricanes.

They need to build a dam on the west side of that volcano there and turn it into a reservoir.  Wettest place on earth right?  You think things get dry where you are, you should see my place.  I just weed eated a massive fire break around my house and won't have to mess with it until it rains again in 6 months.

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You can grow a lot of crap on half an acre trust me.  You will be a busy guy.  Do you know what size pipe your meter is?  I assume you get a pipe and meter for your house like they do it out here.  You probably want to get a 1" pipe and have 3 or 4 stations T off of it for later use on all your gardening stuff.  At least have them pop up several 1" pvc stubs and cap them off around where you will need it for sprinkler valves and hose bibs.  You can never have too many pipes and water around.  Have them put in 6 or 12 conductor sprinkler control wire along the pipe while the trenches are ipen for later use too.  You will want a sprinkler controller or 2 back at a 120v power source then run the 12 conductor line from there to where you need valves for your food trees.

This is a really, really good idea. I regret not running the wire... now I have to go back and trench in the wire. Its only maybe 2000 feet of wire....only.

Frank, what do you need sprinklers for?  Dont you get enough rain to grow everything with?  Seemed like it rained all the time when we visited your island.

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Use schedule 40 pipe too.  These house builders put in that paper thin garbage that breaks if you look at it funny just to save a few bucks.

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You can grow a lot of crap on half an acre trust me.  You will be a busy guy.  Do you know what size pipe your meter is?  I assume you get a pipe and meter for your house like they do it out here.  You probably want to get a 1" pipe and have 3 or 4 stations T off of it for later use on all your gardening stuff.  At least have them pop up several 1" pvc stubs and cap them off around where you will need it for sprinkler valves and hose bibs.  You can never have too many pipes and water around.  Have them put in 6 or 12 conductor sprinkler control wire along the pipe while the trenches are ipen for later use too.  You will want a sprinkler controller or 2 back at a 120v power source then run the 12 conductor line from there to where you need valves for your food trees.

This is a really, really good idea. I regret not running the wire... now I have to go back and trench in the wire. Its only maybe 2000 feet of wire....only.

I have trenched and run probably 1000ft of additional pipes ranging in size from 2", 1.5" feeds , and 1" valved lines since moving to my place.  Number one regret is not adding more wire next to the pipe.  Its not a bad idea to use a  3/4 conduit on the 12 conductor line.  And throw in some 2 conductors and stub up some places to get wire out for 12V LED lighting if necessary also.  Remember 1 conductor is a shared ground so 12 is better than 6.  Conduit for the wire, do it right the first time.  I've screwed this up and regret not running lighting wires or more conductors or not using conduit.  Whatever you think you need for wires and water pipes, do more.  And go bigger if possible.  If you have a 1.5" feed to your house run that out to your garden and T off 1" valves off it.  Then you can run 3 or 4 stations at a time. 

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You can grow a lot of crap on half an acre trust me.  You will be a busy guy.  Do you know what size pipe your meter is?  I assume you get a pipe and meter for your house like they do it out here.  You probably want to get a 1" pipe and have 3 or 4 stations T off of it for later use on all your gardening stuff.  At least have them pop up several 1" pvc stubs and cap them off around where you will need it for sprinkler valves and hose bibs.  You can never have too many pipes and water around.  Have them put in 6 or 12 conductor sprinkler control wire along the pipe while the trenches are ipen for later use too.  You will want a sprinkler controller or 2 back at a 120v power source then run the 12 conductor line from there to where you need valves for your food trees.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Top these cherimoyas?
« on: April 17, 2017, 03:08:57 PM »
I could certainly put in eucalyptus for some wind shelter.  I have the cherimoyas and avocados tucked down in a little somewhat sheltered area though.  Id probably have to put in a ton of trees to make a wind break.  And Im in an extreme wildfire alley so eucalyptus isnt the best trees to have in a fire storm.  The sap turns into napalm.  I will try and post more photos of my grow area soon.  Ive got almost an acre deer fenced now.  And half of that is unplanted.  At this point, Im pretty much done planting.  If the cherimoyas do well then maybe I can plant half an acre or so of them for profit.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Best mandarin recommendations?
« on: April 16, 2017, 11:58:44 PM »
I have a tango, naval orange, key lime, and pink lemon verigated that are all old mature trees.  Just put in the satsuma and gold nuggets.

Went for easter dinner to a friends house maybe 10 miles away and his 30 year old orange trees all have HLB.  The ag department came around and let everyone know they have it but didnt make them take them out or do anything.  That was in lakeside CA, east san diego.  I don't know much about HLB.  If this is going to wipe out all the trees, I guess Im done planting citrus.  Was going to try and put a few more in but will have to read up on HLB.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Surplus home citrus?
« on: April 14, 2017, 10:35:17 PM »
I have a 200lb.  Aldabra tortoise and various tortoises that enjoy extra fruit. But I do grow extra fruit and vegetables and give it to my
neighbors and friends. This past winter I had 10 cherry tomato plants with 3 different varieties. I use to pick plastic cups fulls and give them to everyone. I think people really enjoy being handed free freshly picked anything! I was giving 5 cups a day away. If someone did something nice for me I would give them a cup of assorted cherry tomatoes the next day. I took a big bag of kishus this past fall to a Cub Scout campout. The boys really enjoyed the small tangerines. I didn't bring any home, in fact I ran out on Saturday, I could have given away 2 bags.
I have over 100 fruit trees and will never be able to eat all the fruit. A very nice neighbor down the road has been going through allot with
her aging father and I like going down and leaving a cup of various fruits to brighten her day. She is almost always at the nursing home with her father. If everyone did 1 nice thing a day for someone else it would be a much different world
Nice post.  Been there with the cherry tomatos.

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Mexican lime, pink lemonade lemon.  My mother inlaw made cello liqour out of both of them off my trees.  It was ok but I'm more of a beer or bourban drinker.  I do like a bourbon on ice with a squeeze of key lime in it.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Top these cherimoyas?
« on: April 14, 2017, 05:48:07 PM »
By the way what type of fertilizer do cherimoyas need?  High nitrogen citrus/avocado blend ok?  Any special micronutrients they need like zinc?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Top these cherimoyas?
« on: April 14, 2017, 04:19:34 PM »
Regarding dont let them get more than 12" before retrimming I figured I would maybe hit them again in a few months then again at the end of summer.  If these trees grow like my avocados they will be 10ft in 6 months.  Plants seem to grow like crazy here.  Full sun on top of a south facing hill in well draining DG and nice clean groundwater is the recipe for happy plants it seems.

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