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Tropical Fruit Discussion / annona ID: atemoya or what?
« on: May 26, 2018, 04:36:27 PM »
Hi, the tree is from Misiones and the seller said he get the green fruits from the market: white or cream pulp inside... should it be atemoya?


Hi Marcos,
My Black eugenia repanda seedlings from your seeds now are growing very well.
Just want to take the photo of the seedlings for your ref.

Very thanks for posting! it is amazing to see them growing at Vietnam, so far from here. Eugenia repanda is one of the most beautiful trees I grow.


UPDATE, 24 may 2018: I have some very rare cephalotaxus fortunei seeds on sale now. 10 seeds USD 18.

Tropical guava varieties on sale now:

brazilian  yellow/yellow nice taste
brazilian yellow/white maybe the best taste
cuban green/pink very nice taste, firm, big fruit
paraguayan yellow/pink very nice perfume, nice taste
peruvian yellow/pink, more pulp, few seeds, nice taste

Tropical Fruit Discussion / when should I harvest our chirimoya?
« on: May 18, 2018, 09:54:56 AM »
When to harvest cherimoya? (Annona cherimola) Does anyone knows?. It has been changing color to a more yellowish or clear tone; It is still hard to the touch and does not detach if I try to pull it out ...

it has black dots that I suppose are some disease or fruit fly bite. It is the first time that our tree bears fruit, it is about 4 or 5 years old.

Grapebush: Yes, I got your post on Facebook, that is terrible what happened. They have small greenhouses here that you can fix to the wall on your balcony, I will send you a link soon, that might be a good idea to protect your plants. I have been able to overwinter these ones inside last winter, next winter they go into an I heated greenhouse, so I don’t know if they’ll still look as good this time next year. ???

Cassio: thank you for the extra information. It seems the trees from your seeds remain a little bit smaller than some of the others. They didn’t set any fruit this year, but if they bloom again next year, I hope they will. If the fruit turns out to be to sour for my taste - I have never tasted any Uvaia yet - I will still keep these ones and try to cross them with a sweeter type. I think the fast fruiting is a very attractive trait in these rare fruits!

Congrats for that amazing collection and healty plants!

You can make really good mermelades and icecreams with the not so sweet or sour types!


Round uvaia. Eugenia pyriformis

shocking! when did it produced the first fruits?

Hi, I stil have most of the species, but not guaviyú, eugenia uniflora, eugenia repanda, uvaia (eugenia pyriformis).

Hi, do you have sete capotes seeds available?

Hi, no, sorry: I sold them all and there are just a few on the trees now. Very nice fruit. The next year I should have many more and probably campomanesia xanthocarpa and campomanesia lineatifolia too!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: i need help to ID this rollinia
« on: May 12, 2018, 09:35:00 PM »
Thanks Mike

Carlos, fijate si coincide con lo que dice Helton:

"A espécie é facilmente identificada por se observar as folhas glabras (sem pelos) e elípticas (estreitas desde a base até o ápice)."

(neosalicifolia es sinónimo de salicifolia)

Hi, I stil have most of the species, but not guaviyú, eugenia uniflora, uvaia.

I believe it is Annona deliciosa/Rollinia deliciosa. The tree looks great by the way. Chris

Annona mucosa.  What a terrible name, but it's the current accepted one   :Þ  (Species 2000 / ITIS Catalogue of Life / GBIF; and NCBI say Rollinia mucosa, but nobody accepts A. or R. deliciosa anymore).  Has to be right up there on the list of terrible plant names alongside Eugenia dysenterica.

many collectors list annona deliciosa and annona mucosa as different species... they are convinced... Helton does it...

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Uvaia Blossoming
« on: May 10, 2018, 01:24:35 PM »

From the photos, it seems to me common E.pyrifomis, I needed a photo of the whole plant, I never saw uvaia cultivated in the shade, always in full sun, even in the forest, they get huge disputing sun with other trees.

99 percent of the Uvaia are sour, they vary a lot, on the shape and the flavor generally, it is good but sour, it reminds me of the taste of Eugenia Spitata (Araca Boi), There is a hybrid of E Pyriformis x E Lutecens, which is sweet , but nothing like some guys talk about sweet as honey, is acidic.

All these fruits have a characteristic of rapid fermentation, do not serve to store their pulp, or make juices to consume many hours later, and as soon as you remove the fruit from the tree it becomes soft, almost liquified.

You can make juices, jellies and ice creams, once a Taiwanese asked me for 2,000 Uvaia seeds, to plant and sell the fruit in the supermarket, like a fresh fruit, I made a video at the time explaining about this fermentation characteristics and he gave up this huge amount.

It is a fruit very attacked by the fruit fly.

I really like this tree, it's a wild tree where I live, and every place it varies a lot, in the shape of the fruit and in the flavor.


I agree with every word, but in Argentina we dont know so many type of uvaias... I just grow 3 or 4 from different sources: one is acid, another ones are sweet (12º Brix or so) (rounded or more pear shaped) and the other didnt produced yet.

We made an amazing icecream with the pulp! I just harvest them, take the seeds, separate the pulpa and freeze it, then I go to the icecream masterchef and he does it.

The taste is very nice to me, but I must wait till they fall of the tree to be really ripe.

Photos taken today - so far so good ...

Congrats, this is amazing! I hope you can reproduce it for millions!

Yes, it looks like biribá... I will believe that the tree just knows how to grow... but dont follow my idea, maybe I am wrong.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« on: May 09, 2018, 09:39:07 PM »

An interesting looking undescribed Plinia


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tasting Pitomba
« on: May 07, 2018, 10:07:22 AM »
Zill Dark, pitomba,corg, grumachama and Barbados are my choices in order of best tasting in my opinion

Zill Dark has been the sweetest by far this season but waiting on Pitomba at this moment. 

Your zone should handle most of the family.  You might want to try Flying Fiox fruits and Adam can ship a variety to you with seeds included.   

Watched a couple videos of yours prior to your thread.   With a little more active cold protection and plant size you can grow some of your losses.

Protection while small may not be as needed when larger

+1, please protect them!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / plant ID, is it edible?
« on: May 05, 2018, 01:36:16 PM »

The woman said it is from Tucuman, the photos are not mine...

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: how do you clean cupuazu seeds?
« on: May 04, 2018, 11:11:56 PM »
To aprovechar the pulp it is usually cut off with scissors.
We plant the seeds of cupuasu and all other cacao/Herrania sp. with the pulp intact, uncleaned.  Works fine for us.

great, that's what a friend advised me but I doubted it...

Tropical Fruit Discussion / how do you clean cupuazu seeds?
« on: May 04, 2018, 10:04:52 AM »
hi, I just have these seeds but the pulp is so attached to the seed... can I plant them as this? or should I clean them? how?

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: biriba, etc
« on: April 29, 2018, 11:33:34 AM »
Adding fresh biribá seeds from Misiones:

* Biribá (annona mucosa or rollinia deliciosa) , frost hardy to -2º C or so, sweet taste similar to lemon pie, fruit weights 1k, very nice variety from Misiones, Argentina. 

10 seeds USD 20
20 seeds USD 18

Wow really frost hardy to -2C?

My rollinia is so sensitive frost.... (almost die... last winter...)

Helton at Brazil wrote -1ºC but this another one variety is from Misiones and there can be -5ºC frosts there, so I think they can resist -2ºC at least... also, my biribá at our garden survived to -2ºC

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: biribá? it has another smell
« on: April 29, 2018, 11:31:17 AM »
I don't have a biribá (had a couple as seedlings a while back but they died, not sure why), so I'm in no position to comment about how it looks.  But I do have a reticulata, and that definitely looks like mine.  It's kind of annoying, I keep worrying that it's infested with scale, and then have to keep reminding myself, no, the bark looks like that normally.

I don't remember much of a smell in mine's leaves, though.  Guanabana leaves smell better (rather fruity).

Thanks Karen for confirming it! I really like the smell of the leaves of reticulata

Adding fresh biribá seeds from Misiones:

* Biribá (annona mucosa or rollinia deliciosa) , frost hardy to -2º C or so, sweet taste similar to lemon pie, fruit weights 1k, very nice variety from Misiones, Argentina. 

10 seeds USD 20
20 seeds USD 18

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