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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tagging trees
« on: March 25, 2017, 06:56:48 PM »
Whatever permanent labels you decide to use it's also good to have a backup map, because some labels always get lost or damaged. Also a map allows you to look at all your plantings at once. Store the map on your hard drive and back up on flash drive or cloud drive. A map also allows you to have information that may not fit on your label, like date of acquisition ans source of acquisition.

Sorry, but there's no way there's a developed seed in that little thing.
You're probably right. But so easy to find just by opening up the exterior hull and looking inside to see if there is an embryo. BTW, opening it up also makes em sprout faster.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Ruby mangosteen..
« on: March 25, 2017, 06:18:15 PM »
Indian vendors famous for dipping their fruits in dyes.

When do green sapotes flower? I keep reading some people say spring while others say fall. Maybe depending on the variety?
Some fruits on the trees right now, so guess they flowered in fall. But usually heavier fruiting late summer, so guess they also flower in spring. But flowering depends a lot on location, soil, and ferts.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: White Sapote eating
« on: March 25, 2017, 06:11:09 PM »
Yes ok to eat. I usually peel them, just because most taste better without the skin. But as you point out, there are some types where the skin has no bitterness.

Oscar is there difference in time required to ripen between the 3 types?
I don't know. But would guess that yes there is, even if the difference is only a slight one.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Abiu tree?
« on: March 23, 2017, 06:49:29 PM »
Abiu grows like weeds here, and can fruit in 2 years, if lucky. Have many volunteer trees growing around mother plant. Love the taste. Problem here is oriental fruit fly. Every single fruit that is not bagged is stung.  :'(  I'm too lazy to bag them. I just go for the starapples instead, which have thicker rinds and never get stung.  8)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Abiu tree?
« on: March 23, 2017, 06:45:32 PM »
Are they able to be pollinated by Canistel?
No, Totally different 'animal'.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: best citrus for tropical climate
« on: March 23, 2017, 06:39:32 PM »
Just remembered, i've seen Washington navel oranges grown and sold in Fiji, which is very equatorial. There are some areas there with a couple thousand feet of elevation, which helps. The oranges there don't turn fully orange colored, but are still fine to eat.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: best citrus for tropical climate
« on: March 23, 2017, 06:37:04 PM »
Oscar, I would agree with ruby reds and even rio reds doing well but minneola,navel and standard lemons like Lisbon not so much. Ironically after alerting people to my navel failures and those of a friend I tried navels at mission beach a few weeks ago and they were great.It is only a little milder there than here. Temps here seem anchored on 33c during the day and 24/25c minimum and for a sixth consecutive month have been at least that. The humidity has remained at saturation levels for moths also with the air like syrup.
The Darwin comparison is a reasonable one as Darwin is as hot and humid as anywhere I have experienced and even winter is oppressively hot.
Lisbons doing great here also. But i'm at 19 degrees north of equator. You are a bit closer to equator, and so is a different story. I'm sure you're hotter, but not more humid than here. We get rain almost year round which equals close to 100% humidity.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: best citrus for tropical climate
« on: March 23, 2017, 06:34:09 PM »
Cara Cara should also be good,  They grow Cara Cara in Valenzuela+ which probably has much the same climate as you you have in the Philippines.
Yes Cara cara does fine here also. Forgot to mention it.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: best citrus for tropical climate
« on: March 22, 2017, 11:13:42 PM »
Washington navel does better here than Valencia. Tangerines do wel as do Minneola tangelol. Ruby red grapefruit gets loaded. All lemons and limes do well, as well as kumquat, pommelo, finger limes, buddha's hand, and etrog.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: New Fruit So-Shang Elaeagnus latifolia
« on: March 22, 2017, 04:10:38 AM »
The plant supports itself, and even forms a nice size trunk. I'll have to post a photo later.
My mistake was planting it close to a power post, which it loves to climb and then go on up on the power lines. I have to prune it a lot. In any case it needs a lot of pruning to make it behave.

Hey Oscar- do you think these would be graft compatible with our (California) mango rootstocks? Thanks, Chris
Yes definitely. Have trees already on mango rootstock.

Yes have them. PM me.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: New Fruit So-Shang Elaeagnus latifolia
« on: March 21, 2017, 10:25:36 PM »
tasted this for the first time today, remind me of strawberry, lychee, with guava paste texture...very good fruit, could be made into raisins I bet, they would taste amazing dried, but are excellent fresh out of hand...very pretty fruit, the plant is a liana, with once i get it rooted, I'm going to plant them underneath the south side of a large non-fruiting tree, on the border of my property, where i can avoid it's thorns....cold is not an issue for this species...but according to my friend, it took many years to fruit from seed...maybe because his plant is in so much shade?  any how....this is a good fruit worth adding to the collection if you have  space.
The one i have is practically thornless, and the very few thorns i find are not sharp, not really thorns. Also i would not describe it as a liana. It is a bushy tree that sends long runners that like to climb. Kind of reminds me of climbing ylang ylang (Artabotrys uncinatus).
Didn't think of drying them. Will try that with the next batch. Thanks for the suggestion.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tree ID?
« on: March 21, 2017, 04:40:00 PM »
I talked with one of the horticulturists at Mounts and they said the mystery tree is Meiogyne cylindrocarpa...
Glad you got it identified. Don't think the fruits usually have the shape in your photo. Adam has posted in past about this tree. Fruits are usually more sausage shaped. Your fruit was just not fully formed.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tree ID?
« on: March 21, 2017, 01:33:24 AM »
Cambuca trunk doesn't look like that. Cambuca trunk looks similar to jaboticaba, with peeling bark. I guess it is not java plum either because trunks on java plum look more corky than in the photo.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tree ID?
« on: March 20, 2017, 04:40:51 PM »
Here's another unknown to me. Bokeelia, Southwest Florida.

Showing reverse side of leaves:

Could it be java plum (Syzigium cuminii)?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Inga ...?
« on: March 20, 2017, 04:36:56 PM »
Have your cinnamomea ,edulis and vulpina fruited and how old are the trees?Ingas seemed underated in south east asia and i dont know why because it is very rare especially in Malaysia.There are some of inga edulis trees in Mulu sarawak which was supposedly introduced by Bruno Manser (a swiss enviromentalist who when missing and presumed death.his death has many mystery ).Never tasted any ingas in my life but from what i read it does taste delicious
The cinnamomea is fruiting. Started fruiting at about 4-5 years old. The edulis and vulpina are still small.

They're slow till they get 5-6 feet tall, but then really take off. You can prune them same way as mango once they take off.

After 4 years of fruiting the trees, both Kai and Mayong Chid maprangs, finally get into heavy gear with a heavy cropings.
Kai Tree:

Mayong Chid Tree:

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tree ID?
« on: March 20, 2017, 01:29:50 AM »
It had no flowers at the time. The photos were taken in the fruit and vegetable section of Mounts botanical garden in west palm beach. They had three trees and unfortunately non were labeled.
Do they have a gardener or office where you can ask? Many gardens also have maps detailing all the trees planted.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tree ID?
« on: March 19, 2017, 09:19:56 PM »
Is it an edible fruit? Do you have any shots of the flowers?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cut nut (Barringtonia edulis)
« on: March 19, 2017, 08:07:27 PM »
They are mostly grown lowland PNG and can fruit at a small size.I saw a 2m tree with fruit.The PNG community here grows them sometimes as they do buk buk,firetruck pandanus and a few other favoured New Guinean species.
Yes, mine started fruiting even smaller, at 4-5 feet tall. Heavy bearing starts when they are older though.

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