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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Seedless Mango from India
« on: April 21, 2017, 05:38:55 PM »
Seedless mango, whoda thunk it? What's next? Treeless, skinless types? :-)

Weirder yet--there is a skinless jackfruit.  :o

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: How do you pronounce cassabanana?
« on: April 21, 2017, 05:33:09 PM »
So, I am growing some cassabanana, and am curious how to pronounce it.
Is it casa banana? ("house banana..."?)
Or cassaba nana? ("melon grandma"...?)
When I tell people what it is, they keep trying to make it be some sort of banana variety...
Closer to your first.
I would think it would be cas-sa-banana


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I got some seeds many years ago and have two trees. I am in Florida and they seem to be growing actively. I have not done anything particular. Back when we had those really tough freezes, one froze to the ground, but came back up. Another time my dear spouse weed wacked it down and it came back just fine. I have terrible soil and have never fertilized.

I had heard the fruit were poisonous??? The birds don't even eat them. I did a quick google check that says the berry is edible but the seeds are poisonous.

Nothing is fruiting now, but when it does, I have lots of seeds. If I remember, I will post in the buy, sell, trade section when seeds are available.

Erica
The fruits are definitely edible. They have a strong spicy taste, but i rather like them. But they are quite small, so not much to them. Eat them when they are fully darkened in color. I've never eaten the seeds, but many fruit seeds are toxic or poisonous, so no surprise there.

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Sorry, Oscar, guess I missed it.
No problem, i posted it long time ago. So it's good you reposted it. I had forgotten some of the info in it, like about it being a nitrogen fixing plant. That's rather odd and interesting.

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You reminded me that i had my first taste of lychees in Paris. At that time i had no idea what they were but decided to give it a go. It was love after that. HAHA
Really good cultivars of durians have aborted seeds, and a very good pulp to seed ratio. The good part of getting large seeds is you will be able to start plants easily.
Yes caimitos (starapple) is a highy under rated fruit. They can be quite excellent at their prime.
The photo of salak you posted looks like wallichiana. But in Thatiland, where it probably came from, they have some very good hybrid crosses. I would guess that is what that is.
That longan looks unusual. Longan seeds are usually black, not brown like in your photo.


Thank you very much for your reply Oscar.
It's nice to know that Paris also had some importance in your tropical fruit adventure.
You're right about the Durian seeds, It's a bit deceptive to have a so big amount of fruit being seeds, but also that provides you nice healthy seeds to start some trees, and if the offspring is at least as good as this one was, I would be very happy. And they're already germinating!
About the starapple, I can't wait for the next opportunity to get another fruit, and to eventually have a producing tree.
It is nice to know that I wasn't completely wrong about the Sallaca ID, and yet better to know that there are hybrids of that genus that can be so good. Just hope one of the plants will one day produce something as good as these fruits I had. By the way, you were right about the origin of the fruits; it came from Thailand, from the same supplier of the Durian (SiamFresh).
About the Longans, I was as surprised as you, by the seed color, the size, the skin and everything else. Could it also be an hybrid? They were absolutely sweet and juicy; the hands were sticking with the juice... With these big seeds, I expect some vigorous seedlings, let's see if my theory confirms.

Durian is one of the most expensive fruits because the pulp to waste ratio is one of the worst of all fruits. It's not just the seeds but also the heavy ring. I posted about this before. In the chanee that i tested i got 28% edible portion and 72% compost (seeds and rinds) by weight.
http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=13525.msg171416#msg171416

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Posted this link long time ago. Has good info. It's what led me to try starting from cuttings. But i had no success with that.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Taste of Mabolo (Diospyros blancoi)
« on: April 17, 2017, 05:06:10 AM »
What about grafting persimmon onto mabolo ? any tips and info welcome. I would like to graft a selected seedless variety of persimmon ( giant fuyu ) onto seedlings of mabolo I have in quantity. Persimmons are very rare in New Caledonia, and I don't know about any persimmons with seeds in New Caledonia. I have bought many persimmon and lotus seeds from different sources, but could not germinate any of them so far. So I am thinking about grafting onto mabolo to save time and efforts. I also have lots of black sapote seedlings, may be it could work too ?
Look at second post in this thread. He claims they are not compatible. And i fhtink he knows what he's talking about.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit Identification Help
« on: April 14, 2017, 04:02:49 AM »
There's lots of different varieties of sapodilla, coming in many different sizes and shapes.

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Yes the seeds confirm it is Fijian longan. Maybe Matoa is a better name, as they are neither longans nor from Fiji. The seeds are very highly perishable so if you want plants you need to plant immediately.

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Tropical Vegetables and Other Edibles / Re: Pau D'Arco
« on: April 14, 2017, 03:53:18 AM »
I have a Pau D'Arco tree. Here it has been kind of slow growing and has never flowered. It is about 15 feet tall. The part used medicinally is the bark.
I read that in a test of Pau D'Arco products sold over 2/3 turned out to be not the real item or highly adulterated. So if you buy a product research it thoroughly and make sure you get the real thing. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Can you eat avocado seeds?
« on: April 14, 2017, 03:44:58 AM »
Well, i had to try it. Cooked up several avocado pits. Not going to win any gourmet prizes. Don't know where Morton got information that they taste like almonds? Not even remotely! To me they had a piney, pine needle-like taste, a bit perfumey, and with background bitterness. Also left unpleasant after taste. Maybe different races of avocado taste differently. But not likely to try that one again.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Nance (Byrsonima crassifolia)
« on: April 14, 2017, 02:33:58 AM »
If you mixed in the blender with water and sugar the whole fruit with seeds inside then strain, add ice and is a delicious refreshing drink, you can also use milk for a milk shake, or here they do pop cycles, or ice cream, is an acquired taste most people don't like first time, but then you can't stop eating them! Also with salt lime and chili, they are awesome!

Had nance ice cream in Brazil. It was one of the best! I have a couple of large nance trees. The rose beetles really like and damage this plant a lot.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sweetest pineapple?
« on: April 13, 2017, 07:22:53 PM »
Peak season here for white sugarloaf is June-July. Out of that summer time frame they would have to use ethylene to force fruiting.
Simon, when you do your brix test can you also do a comparison pH reading? Would be good to know how much lower the acid content really is on the white sugarloaf?

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A kind of Pometia pinnata lost in West indies ?

Gouralata
Yes i agree. It looks like Fijian longan (Pometia pinnata).

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You reminded me that i had my first taste of lychees in Paris. At that time i had no idea what they were but decided to give it a go. It was love after that. HAHA
Really good cultivars of durians have aborted seeds, and a very good pulp to seed ratio. The good part of getting large seeds is you will be able to start plants easily.
Yes caimitos (starapple) is a highy under rated fruit. They can be quite excellent at their prime.
The photo of salak you posted looks like wallichiana. But in Thatiland, where it probably came from, they have some very good hybrid crosses. I would guess that is what that is.
That longan looks unusual. Longan seeds are usually black, not brown like in your photo.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Pachira aquatica seeds
« on: April 13, 2017, 12:21:11 AM »
I also have them, but not fruiting right at this moment. Probably in summer.

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Thanks for reporting.

I hope all of you can grow them just fine... my main pourpose is to spread useful species and some of them should be saved from extinction.

Today I sent 3 more mails.
You're doing a good job. Keep it up! It's nice to have here some plants from Argentina.  8)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit Identification Help
« on: April 12, 2017, 11:59:16 PM »
Any reason why the tree might be fruiting so lightly and irregularly? It looks healthy and has a ton of flowers everywhere. It's a 40ft+ mature tree in direct sun. Thanks!
Probably it's underfed. Give it some fert.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Marang: the 1st flower!
« on: April 12, 2017, 02:14:55 AM »
Congratulations. As you probably know, artocarpus plants have male and female flowers on same tree. That flower is a male, so now you need to get female flowers to produce fruit.

Thank you for the comments.
But, I have only one Marang plant. So, I have to wait till the plant produce both male and female flowers at the same time :-(.

BTW, is it possible to pollinate Marang with Wild Jackfruits?
Yes have to have both types of flowers on at same time. It's normal for male flowers to come out first. Marang and jackfruit do not hybridize easily.

Dear Oscar, I was mentioning about the Wild Jackfruit (Artocarpus hirsutus). Wild Jack pollen easily available here.
I doubt hirsutus pollen would work. But it would not hurt to try it.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Marang: the 1st flower!
« on: April 11, 2017, 07:08:07 PM »
Congratulations. As you probably know, artocarpus plants have male and female flowers on same tree. That flower is a male, so now you need to get female flowers to produce fruit.

Thank you for the comments.
But, I have only one Marang plant. So, I have to wait till the plant produce both male and female flowers at the same time :-(.

BTW, is it possible to pollinate Marang with Wild Jackfruits?
Yes have to have both types of flowers on at same time. It's normal for male flowers to come out first. Marang and jackfruit do not hybridize easily.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Marang: the 1st flower!
« on: April 11, 2017, 07:14:37 AM »
Congratulations. As you probably know, artocarpus plants have male and female flowers on same tree. That flower is a male, so now you need to get female flowers to produce fruit.

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I bought some seeds from 'huertasurbanas', the seeds reached ICS Miami on 22nd March. After that there is no trace!! Does anyone have similar experience?
Yes i had similar experience. The seeds did finally show up. Just took almost a month to get here. But they were all still in good shape, with the ones in moistened moss starting to germinate.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Nut that taste like pork lard?
« on: April 09, 2017, 12:42:14 AM »
Correct name is Hogsonia macrolarda. Just kidding! Let us know if you find a source. What is your plan for them? Are you going to make vegetarian carnitas?  ;)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: The Best Breadfruits
« on: April 08, 2017, 05:25:13 PM »
Dada, try contacting the Breadfruit Institute and see if they'll send seeds or put you in touch with someone.
They were giving away Breadfruit tree's for awhile to promote the fruit.
I've seen Cassava flour here but not Breadfruit flour.
Breadfruit is one of my favorite fruits and very diverse like most fruits there is a ton of ways to prepare them to eat, not just fried as suggested. Though we do not have access to good Breadfruit in the states generally , there's quite a list of recipe's on the website which comes in handy when there is a plethora of breadfruit around. One favorite way to eat Breadfruit is to have a sweet variety and put it in the freezer the day it gets very soft and you have a  sweet breadfruit dessert.
Recipe list http://ntbg.org/breadfruit/resources/cms.php/display/cat/7/

The good breadfruits don't have seeds. The breadfruit institute propagates them by TC. It's very hard to get anything from them. They don't give anything away fro free, although they had a program to share TC plants to third world countries for free. Thev've only propagated by TC a couple of cultivars for distribution out of their huge collection.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is growing Imbe worth my time?
« on: April 04, 2017, 06:08:53 PM »
How true are they to seed?

I wonder how well they can get via selective breeding, or if its even worth while.

I'm considering buy a few cheap acres in the future with the goal of improving hardy fruit tree selections.
Imbe and Pond Apple seem to be great candidates
I think almost all trees .around have been propagated by seed. There is i'm sure some variation from seeds but don't know how often that occurs. The traits that would be worth selecting for would be better seed to pulp ratio. Right now it is quite low. Also selections with less sap in the fruits.

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