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Tropical Fruit Discussion / help to ID this annona (aratiku)
« on: September 05, 2014, 08:36:58 PM »
Hi, another annonaceae to ID... does it seems to be rollinia sylvatica or emarginata or something else?






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Tropical Fruit Discussion / tasting jaboticaba for the first time!
« on: August 29, 2014, 01:19:07 PM »
I'm so excited: this morning came to my house by a delivery service (without refrigeration) Jaboticaba fruits from Corrientes (1000km trip in 5 days). There are 2 bags: In a bag there was some harvested slightly immature (and refrigerated for 1 week), and in the other there are the perfectly ripe ones harvested last Monday (5 days ago).




The owner of the tree (which was kind enough to make the shipment) warned me that when they mature in winter the skin is thicker and the flavor can be a little less sweet than the fruits of the warm months.





But I wanted to try the taste of some Jaboticaba before our trees (sabara, cauliflora, vexator, hybrid, cabelluda, grimal) bear fruit, so I tried first fruits that seemed more mature because the shell was a bit weak, but they were quite acids (such as he warned me), although I liked them.

And when I tried those in the other bag, they liked me much more, they are sweeter and less acidic.



The taste is refreshing and reminds me not exactly anything in particular, but the feeling is similar to eating a grape (without skin)... and reminds me a bit to Guaviyú, but Guaviyú is not  acid (I think acidity in a fruit gives it more personality and makes it more suitable for preparing jams, juices, ice cream). The skin tastes like eucalyptus or something similar if I bite it. Seeds are much stuck to the flesh and are difficult to remove, I am tempted to suck for a while because the flesh is very tasty and sweet. Every time I try another Jaboticaba, I like it more and more, it's a shame not to have more fruits to better describe/enjoy the taste.  The balance between acidity and sugar I is very similar to a fully ripe orange.

I also sense a slightly spicy flavor and a touch of bitterness that give more personality ... in my memory reminds me of some special treat, but do not know which.



The noise they make in the mouth by biting is fun and the feeling that the fruit explodes in your mouth all that casting a very pleasant sweet pulp is great.

In Guarani indigenous language (the people that ate jaboticaba many years before us!) are called "Yvapuru" / "Guapurú" where Yva: fruit and onomatopoeic word puru / Pururu: "crackle", "noise" sound when being bitten.




The size is between 1.8cm and 2.8cm, about 3 cm. The interior of the shell is a green color, but when it happens a little time becomes magenta, something that caught my attention. Is this normal? Can it gives you a clue about what species are we talking about?









I have over 40 some fruit here perhaps to share with friends and family, and will report about those experiences.

My conclusion is that it is a very good and desirable fruit, it looks great, and if the crops are as productive as the pictures on the Internet is necessary to cultivate these species popularly even to fulfill a function of food sovereignty.

I know there are more than 60 species of Jaboticaba, yet we have not correctly identified which produces these beautiful fruits, there is actually a forum post on the subject (http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=11993.msg157698#msg157698), could be myrciaria coronata (the crown at the apex is generally green but small in our fruits) or myrciaria cauliflora.

Our little daughter was called by these atractive jabos!, but still did not dare to taste, I think she would like, my mother and my wife liked them.


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Hi, at toptropicals they say that it grow best at light sun or partial shade...

http://toptropicals.com/catalog/uid/Syzygium_oleosum.htm

but I like to grow the trees in full sun if possible... the tree is 1m tall and it's fine in the full sun of our winter, but I dont want to burn it if it cant take the sun of the summer

what do you think, should I give it only sun from the morning?




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Hi, we are in winter but we had a kind of summer time the past week (and I watered a lot!), with 26º C to 33º C max temps, and 10º C to 18º C min. So, some plants as for instance feijoas and pitangas are starting to flower 1 or 2 months earlier this year! feijoas use to flower in nov, and pitangas in oct.

I suspect this is normal for those species, and maybe will have another flourishing in the summer?

maybe 5 years old very bushy one (supposed to bear purple small fruits without ribs):



3 years old? 50cm tall, first flowers:



6 years old:





more photos:
http://www.huertasurbanas.com/2014/08/26/paseo-fines-de-invierno/

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / another jabuticaba to ID from Argentina
« on: August 20, 2014, 02:39:44 PM »
This plant it's from  Resistencia, Chaco, near Misiones... they say it's m. cauliflora, but maybe we are talking about something else!










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Tropical Fruit Discussion / and another annona to ID...
« on: August 13, 2014, 12:08:57 PM »
I think it's biribá, the seller said "araticku"







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Tropical Fruit Discussion / worried about moringa possible dangers
« on: August 11, 2014, 07:56:13 PM »
I've been worried to read this report and similar parts reproduced on the web:

[1] http://www.sacandomelao.com/2012/07/medico-llama-tener-cuidado-con-uso.html

http://taregao.blogspot.com.tr/2012/08/la-moringa-en-exceso-hace-danoopinan.html

http://hoy.com.do/la-moringa-es-abortiva/

Can not find the original cientific sources of these potential studies attesting "collateral damage"

What do you think?


[1] automatic translation:

"Although most people who use the plant moringa freedom or have reported no side effects, this does not mean that eating the organs of this plant is free of them.
We can not be led by enthusiasm, either by simple observation of the beneficial effect of this plant, we're tired of similar stories from other plant species that promise to cure all diseases and for having; but when we submit to the rigor of the scientific method breaks down everything.
Hopefully what moringa attributed to be true, but we must wait with patience that characterizes science and the research process exhausting. It is not advisable to use this plant for medicinal purposes until the correct dose is determined in each case. Similarly it is desirable to estimate the lethal dosage and capable of producing toxicity. Studies are needed pharmacokinetics of the main active ingredients of moringa to get to know the right way to encourage their use.
Have been reported heart damage caused by the consumption of this plant. Also sudden drop of blood glucose levels, which may calculate the dose may help in the treatment of diabetes. Furthermore, it has been found in people who eat moringa, polycythemia vera (increased number of red blood cells), a condition that may increase the risk of acute myocardial infarction, cerebrovascular accident (CVA), dizziness, headache and ringing in the ears. Some people studied after consuming this plant have experienced somnolence, watery stools, dyspepsia, and urticaria.
av / am
Beware popular consumption of moringa or freedom
Moringa or flower of freedom, has been a topic that has been discussed a lot in recent days and it seems that there is a strong commercial interest behind a lot of the information offered on this plant. For that reason alone highlights the benefits of their consumption, and not explained on the damage and risks to oral use is involved.

 
True Moringa has lots of protein and vegetable and promoters offer mercadológica bodies say this tree has more of this nutrient than milk, but it says that despite the protein content of the leaves be 9.40 per 100 grams, this level is exceeded for any bean with more than twice and more if the black beans. Neither report at any time, with respect to calcium is what gives calcium oxalate and this increases the risk of forming stones in the kidneys.
It also states that the leaves contain more Vitamin A than carrots and more vitamin C than oranges. The first thing to clarify is that it contains vitamin A, what we find in it's B-carotene, a precursor of vitamin A and the second is that the human body does not store vitamin C and excreted in the urine. So you do not need to eat large amounts and any diet with fruits and vegetables provides the daily requirement of this vitamin.
It has not been clear that there are varieties of moringa pod which is poisonous and must establish, in addition, the identification of the species used, the therapeutic dose and the toxic dose lethal in each dose. It is good to report that a testimony is no scientific basis to recommend the use of a plant or any substance, there is a well established protocol must exhaust before authorizing the use of any plant or any product for human consumption. It takes more than ten years before science can allow medicinal use of the plant.
There are many substances identified in the flower of freedom and between them are very promising zeatin, a plant hormone group of cytokines. Also important are the pterigospermina and niazimicina. Of zeatin we report that is an inducer of cell division, that is, stimulates the cells to grow to the level of the plant, if it is this effect in animals and humans can be far to help in the treatment of cancer, worsen a person affected in this disease. The pterigospermina has well known antibiotic action and this could benefit in using the plant to treat some infectious processes, after making the appropriate pharmacological studies.
Not that the author has something against this plant. What happens is that we prevent the damaging effects of moringa and education is the best tool to achieve this.

BY ARSENE MEDINA ESTEVEZ / PHYSICIAN"

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I know the Atemoya is an hybrid between sugar-apple (Annona squamosa) and the cherimoya (A. cherimola), have cultivated cherimoya before and I know they do not like full sun from the beginning. So I guess the atemoyas want shadow when they are too small, then partial shade and full sun later (at what age or height?)

Regarding biriba: I know it's Amazon, very tropical and likes full sun but should I give full sun from seed from the start when sprouting? or should be in shade or partial shade in the beginning?

Does the seeds need to be soak in water for 24hs or so? (I put some of them in water and all are floating...)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / atemoya or biriba?
« on: August 04, 2014, 10:03:40 PM »
Hi, to me, this should be biribá:




but they say it was an "atemoya"

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / please: ID this jabuticaba
« on: August 03, 2014, 11:10:28 AM »
Hi

The seller said he bought the mother tree 20 years ago in Sao Paulo, Brazil, and they sell it as "enana" variety... just because it does not grows taller than 5m tall. He also said it's different to what we usually found in Misiones, Argentina, and that these other trees from Misiones are 30m tall and the fruit is very acid.

His tree is 3m tall now, and these are photos of the leaves, old leaves and new growth; he didnt measured the fruits, but he think they are 3cm (bigger that the usually found in Misiones) and very sweet.

To me, it's very similar to my sabaras:







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Hi, the "paulista" jaboticaba started to produce new leaves into the greenhouse... now maybe you can confirm that it's a paulista (myrciaria cauliflora) or not:












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Reading wikipedia in spanish:

"Uses: The root is astringent and tonic. Seeds are astringent, have been used in cases of diarrhea and disentería.
The seed core is highly poisonous and roots also contain a deadly poison. "

so, if you are eating one fuit and you eat a seed.... what could happen? is it so poisonous?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / how to know when water a moringa?
« on: July 25, 2014, 06:24:03 PM »
Hi, moringas are so different to almost any other tree I know (the total opposite to a jaboticaba, for instance), they dont like a lot of water, nor a lot of humidity, nor acid soil...




Should I expect any signs on the leaves to water the plants? I have small plants, barely a month old.
I do not want to kill them by over-watering, I know that the root is like a potato, and accumulating water, which does not need much watering ...
We are in winter and the seedlings are indoors, in a dry room next to me.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / how to germinate Casimiroa edulis?
« on: July 24, 2014, 02:11:08 PM »
how Casimiroa edulis germinate?

Do they need 24 hour soak? They are large and hard seeds ...

Did I sow directly into soil with high temperature and humidity like most tropical fruit?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / new uvaias (eugenia pyriformis)
« on: July 21, 2014, 01:15:14 PM »
say hello to these heroes:

5 months in a mail, (2 or 3 months drying)... I thought the seeds were dead but 5 more months later we can see this:





We now know that Uvaia is a tougher and resistant seed than we thought...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / please, help me ID these jaboticabas
« on: July 18, 2014, 11:39:17 AM »

first, I tought they were myrciaria jaboticaba, but now I see they have slender and longer leaves... they are 2 years old or so







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Hi, again from Misiones, again 8 days in the dark, and again some of them are in a very bad shape...

But some of them will survive... the problem is that I dont know for sure who are the aratiku (rollinia sylvatica), biribá (rollinia mucosa) and jack fruit...

this should be biribá (rollinia mucosa) (updated: jack fruit)





uvaia (eugenia pyriformis)?:



guabiroba?(campomanesia xanthocarpa):



biriba?, no: aratiku? (rollinia sylvatica) sprouting:




aratiku? (rollinia sylvatica)?:




sete capotes (campomaneasia guazumifolia) or guabiroba (c. xanthocarpa)?, no: biribá, rollinia deliciosa:



Bigger photos that you can zoom:

http://www.huertasurbanas.com/2014/07/15/identificando-plantas-que-llegaron-recien/



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A friend went on vacation to Iguazú Falls and took some pictures for me, we can confirm that the walk to the falls presents signs specifying native trees species in fact there was a Campomanesia guazumifolia with fruit ripening (3 months later than here in junin, 1300 km to the south).






In the town are cultivated: carica papaya, guava, banana and maybe many other species in squares and home gardens.

In nurseries generally do not knowabout the native fruits, he could barely get a pitanga and yerba mate.

Not seen here in these photos, but the scenery is amazing, it's a wonderful place where I hope to go back, -I visited it when I was 15- and bring various plants and seeds.














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these are orange tamarillos, I picked one but it had just only tomato taste, if we wait some days or weeks, they should taste like maracuyá+peach or something like that... we are in winter here, maybe they will not be the best tamarillos

dont you know if they are tastier if ripen in hot months?


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Hi, all the 6 seeds of anacardium occidentale germinated OK, but I am a bit worried about the size of the starter pots: too small.

Are the cashew roots deep? I think not. Should I repot as soon as possible? Or let the winter pass?

If I repot to bigger pot, will have to move the plants to the greenhouse where it's cooler (5º C to 33º C) than here in the house... (18º C to 23º C) and I dont know if the plants will like extreme temp changes...





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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Rollinia Sylvatica
« on: June 24, 2014, 06:45:23 PM »
Hi, what about Rollinia Sylvatica? should I get some plants? :)

Are these photos right?

http://articulo.mercadolibre.com.ar/MLA-505546929-plantin-de-aritiku-rollinia-sylvatica-_JM

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / pawpaw, winter, sun, temperature, etc.
« on: June 23, 2014, 05:19:52 PM »


Today I saw several seeds germinated, then I took deep pots and planted the seeds with roots; just came out and measured from 5mm to 3 cm; in my house we have temperatures between 18 º C and 22 º C during the winter, I think it would be better to pass the winter inside, but: Is it possible to move them outside in the spring, right? The idea is to always keep them in the shade because all they "know" is the artificial light inside ... just in 2 years could take full sun?

On the other hand, I have a greenhouse that varies between 7 º C and 30 º C, A man who cultivated pawpaw in Slovakia said small plants may die in these conditions of extreme temperature changes. Is it true? I am curious to put at least 1 seedling there and see what happens ... what do you think?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / vegetative propagation of guava
« on: June 20, 2014, 02:57:43 PM »
http://youtu.be/0lFL8kKNLiY
Basically, you should follow this system:

1 Cut a guava branch, 6 pairs of leaves

2 cut in half every leave

3 dip in rooting for 15 minutes

4 plant in small but deep pot with soil substrate, sawdust and rice (imagine that sawdust can be replaced by peat or similar material, and rice beads for sand)

5 place them in partial shade or shade and irrigate occasionally, moisture must always be high (he uses an automated irrigation system)

6 wait 40 days approx and pull the planted branch (scion or bud), if it resists, is rooted

7 take them two months more in the shade before placing on the market (or give them away, or use them for your own use, of course!)


The advantage of this system is that it is faster.

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