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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My Backyard--Viva Las Frutas!
« on: April 15, 2012, 05:39:20 AM »
If you install the camera software that comes with the camera, that CD that came with the camera, then every time you plug the camera into the computer your new photo files will be automatically transferred. Then all you have to do is click Add Image to Post when writing your message, Then you click Choose File from the pop up box and select the folder and file that you want. Usually software will automatically store photos in the computer file called My Photos. Then you click Upload once you selected the photo you want to post.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Brazillian Mangoes
« on: April 15, 2012, 05:31:36 AM »
Oscar, what about the quality of this mango?

I wonder how is the fruit quality of those brazilian cvs compared to floridian cvs!

It was good, but nothing to rave about. Neatest thing was the unusual shape. From a distance i thought they were small papayas.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Weird Annona sp. from Ecuador...
« on: April 15, 2012, 05:29:10 AM »
I have not ordered from them, but a few times from other german vendors with tons of seeds. I got to germinate a lot of acacia and eucalyptus seeds, but 0% germination rate with fruit seeds, like annonas, spondias...

I problem with those seeds is the long transit time. As Oscar said, they first come from other continents, then arrive in Germany and much later arrive the customer. So I guess in a best case scenario the seeds arrive the customer after 4 weeks after picking...

The seeds i ordered from rarepalm were mostly recalcitrant rare types of Artocarpus. I could see from the wrapping that the seeds came originally from Borneo, as they were wrapped in newspaper from that area. Then took 2 weeks to get from Borneo to Germany, probably freezing in their winter temperatures. Then another close to 2 weeks to reach me here. The seeds were very expensive and i got no refund for all DOA seeds. If you want to try them out i recommend you start with a very small order.
I also tried Sunshine seeds in Germany, and result was the same, all recalcitrant seeds were not viable. Highly perishable seeds just can't be handled in this way and survive.

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Seems like the surinam cherry season coincides here pretty well with what you describe: March-April, then another one in late summer. But i've heard from other growers in other countries that told me they fruit almost year around there.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: mealybug control
« on: April 15, 2012, 05:15:05 AM »
I'm not sure why, but mealybugs are a super-common pest down here in Aruba. I recently had to decimate nice big shade-throwing barbados cherry (called 'shimaruku' in Papiamento, FYI) because it was completely infested. I've been doing a bunch of pesticide spraying to get it under control, but I would love to have a better, less nasty way to keep these critters in check.

Oils and soaps are fine, and work ok, but what I'm really interested in is beneficial organisms, like the mealybug destroyer beetle.

Here's a place that sells them:
www.associatesinsectary.com/mealybug_destroyer.aspx

Has anyone out there ever used anything like this? It seems almost too good to be true that you could get a bunch of beetles to take up residence in your yard that would then patrol for pests for you.


Don't know how it is in Aruba, but importing insects to Hawaii is practically impossible. You may already have in Aruba natural predators of mealybugs, such as ladybugs, lacewirngs, or pirate bugs? But since you say you use malathion, which is a broad spectrum poison, you have probably killed them off. So these 2 approaches: biological and chemical are not compatible in general, unless you use sprays that are very pest specific, and most chemical sprays aren't.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Weird Annona sp. from Ecuador...
« on: April 15, 2012, 04:41:56 AM »
Anybody want seeds from from this rare fruit...

Go to http://www.rarepalmseeds.com/fruit_trees.shtml They have a huge selection of tropical fruit tree seeds from Germany!!!

I ordered from this vendor once and sad to say that 100% of their seeds were DOA (dead on arrival). They obviously obtain their seeds from outside Germany, in my order from Malaysian Borneo. Then their supplier mails the seeds to them in Germany. Then the seeds have further delay and exposture to possible freezing weather. Also this vendor did not follow correct procedure for mailing seeds. They did not include my import permit as i had requested and faked the contents on their customs form.
I have heard from palm collectors that they are reliable with palm seeds. It seems like a case of them extending their business into a realm that they don't know how to handle properly.
If anyone has a had good results ordering tropical fruit seeds from them i'd like to hear about it? Maybe they have improved since i ordered from them about a year ago?

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we have access to refractometers right here in town.

truthfully, the exact total of soluble minerals and sugars in the fruit is of no concern to me at this point (as it can depend greatly upon cultural conditions). What really matters to me is the amount of complaints associated with the signature resinous taste of common piitanga fruits.

im convinced the strain that "Roberts red" descends from, is one with a uniquely palatable taste.

The best resin-o-meter for Robert's Red may be Fruitguy on this forum. He seems to be rather allergic to any surinam resin and can tell you instantly if it passes the resin test.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Crazy About Coconuts
« on: April 15, 2012, 03:21:58 AM »
Oscar,
I have never seen a dwarf coconut.  I have seen over several thousands trees, but not a single dwarf one.
Thank you for pointing out the samoan dwarf.

I will try to take a photo when i get a chance. They are amazingly short trees. I call them lazy man's coconut: no climbing ever needed.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Crazy About Coconuts
« on: April 14, 2012, 10:29:35 PM »
In my oppinion there are no dwarf coconuts.  However, people refer to coconuts as being dwarf because some varieties start bearing fruits after 2 years of being planted.  I used to grow the yellow "dwarf"; the red "dwarf"; and the green "dwarf".  I prefer the green one.  The water from the green one is sweeter to me.  Currently, I still have a couple green malay and one yellow coconut tree. 
The so called "dwarf" coconuts reach 10 to 12 meters high.  If I had to plant only one variety, I would choose the green malay "dwarf"
In Brasil, an improved green malay "dwarf" variety bears the first crop with the fruits touching the ground.

Hi Berto, no you are definitely wrong about that. There are real dwarf coconuts. For example Samoan dwarf never gets more than 10 feet tall. You can see them all around these islands, with giant nuts very close to the ground. You are right though, about Malaysian dwarf. This coconut is not really dwarf, just called that because it starts bearing at very young age, so very low to ground, but will eventually get very tall. Not sure about Fijian dwarf as we don't have them here.

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Send some to Sheehan to get a brix reading.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Eugenia neonitida
« on: April 14, 2012, 10:13:05 PM »
Jua Acu is a nice fruit from the solanacea family, another rare brasilian fruit!

Berto, can you give me a better clue than just solanaceae? The only fruit i see with name Jua in Brazilian books is genus zizyphus.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Brazillian Mangoes
« on: April 14, 2012, 09:30:30 PM »
Here is a very unusual looking mango from Brazil. Due to new censorship rules i cannot post the name of the variety. But will give you a hint, it is part of female anatomy:

If you are desperate to know the name and not easily offended by crass vulgarities you can right click the image, copy the URL address, and last part of that address will inform you.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Crazy About Coconuts
« on: April 14, 2012, 09:20:31 PM »
Free book from Australia all about coconuts: The Coconut Odyssey:
http://aciar.gov.au/files/node/453/mono101.pdf

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Chrysophyllum albidum
« on: April 14, 2012, 06:05:24 PM »
Soren, if you find some please mail me some. I like the idea of you mailing them to me even though the packages don't seem to ever arrive?  :'(  :'( Can you send them certified mail?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Chrysophyllum albidum
« on: April 14, 2012, 06:15:50 AM »
Been trying to get seeds of this one for years. Very difficult to find!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Biggest Eugenia uniflora ever...
« on: April 14, 2012, 06:13:54 AM »
Huge, but how about the taste?

Taste =  :) :P :)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Biggest Eugenia uniflora ever...
« on: April 14, 2012, 05:30:33 AM »
Some large surinam cherries in Hawaii. The coin is a dime:

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Bad news for citrus, FYI.
« on: April 14, 2012, 05:23:34 AM »

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One of my engkalas is flowering for the first time. This is a distant Borneo relative of the avocado. The tree is about 8 years old from planting of seed.




If i get fruit here's what they will look like. (This photo is from Felipe's farm in PR)

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Oscar,

Take a good look at this pic

If you look closely you'll notice that there are two trees in the pot, and you can easily see that one is more glabrous than the other...the Roberts Red tree is much shorter, and the leaves are paler, smaller, and less brilliantly glabrous.   I'm not sure if this feature will persist, after I take care of it at my home.

Time will tell.  and I'll be eating these cherries in the mean time...or maybe the birds will.

Yes, looks like shorter tree has less glossy and also lighter green leaves. But best it 2 photo the leaves side by side, with similar lighting on both: a studio photo.

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OK, wasn't sure if lack of gloss on leaves was just from camera angle. Photos can often be deceiving. Can you do a comparison shot of leaves and fruits of this one with another surinam?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Baileys Marvel
« on: April 14, 2012, 01:04:34 AM »
Bsbullie and Squam, thanks for the info on turpentine mango rootstock.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Baileys Marvel
« on: April 13, 2012, 11:23:14 PM »
I would have thought that with all the work done on mango in Florida there would be some standardization of rootstocks used?

Turpentine has been the preferred stock for a variety of reasons and the overwhelming majority of mangoes commercially grafted in Florida since the early 20th century have been grafted to turpentine.

Since Har worked with Zill I'd be curious to know if there was much deviation at all in the stocks being used. Another thing to consider is that turpentine doesn't always come true to seed, so I'm sure there's some variation in that regard as well.

Thanks, i've heard that turpentine is usually used as rootstock. But i was also of the impression that turpentine isn't really a variety. Doesn't it just refer to the first wild mangos? Here we also call all wild mangos commons. But if you use commons here as rootstock you're going to vet incredible variation in results.

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Excuse my ignorance, but why is this place called university of south Florida? Isn't Tampa in north Florida?

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You're lucky there with all the great events and sales. Here most of the time it's pretty deadsville! Oh well, more time in the garden i guess.

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