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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best methods / device for driving away fruit eating pests.
« on: April 03, 2012, 12:57:08 AM »
So far the only true pests in my mango trees are fruitflies and humans. Rats seem to mostly just wait until they drop. I guess our aloha rats are too lazy to climb up the trees. HAHAHA
Mynah birds have recently discovered our oranges and love to peck big gaping holes in them. They don't bother any of the other citrus, so far.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is 'Sri Kembangan' carambola self-compatible for pollination?
« on: April 02, 2012, 07:22:02 PM »
Quote from: HMHausman on April 02, 2012, 06:52:05 PM
I have several varieties growing together and get loads of fruits so I can't tell you the answer to this from personal expereince.  However, from my memory, I believe they are self fruitful.  Until shown otherwise, that's my final answer.

Harry

I thought that too, but look at Morton book. She says that interplanting different starfruit cultivars helps pollination.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yellow Jaboticaba fruits (M. glazioviana) and M. trunciflora flowers
« on: April 02, 2012, 07:20:09 PM »
Quote from: GwenninPR on April 02, 2012, 07:03:50 PM
I had a cabelluda that used to flower a lot, but never made fruit.  It eventually died.
I planted a new one with hopes of fruit one day.
Anything special being done to improve fertilization?

I'm guessing, underline guessing, that the problem is similar to juvenille abius that flower and don't fruit. Best thing then would be to graft a piece of mature wood on any part of the plant to release proper hormones. I wonder also if gibberelic acid would work???

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best methods / device for driving away fruit eating pests.
« on: April 02, 2012, 07:18:09 PM »
Quote from: HMHausman on April 02, 2012, 06:49:39 PM
Quote from: fruitlovers on April 02, 2012, 06:17:52 PM
I've heard that hanging CD's fron plastic line on trees so they can spin works well. Probably depends on type of birds though, whether they are high tech savy.  ;)

Tried this......my birds thouhgt it wss a like a disco ball.....they danced around eating their way through my fruits.  I've tried foil also.....did not work, even if I covered the top half of the fruit.

Harry

What kind of birds do you have? Some are pretty impervious to just aobut anything...like crows. I think some farmers use sonic blasts that go off every 5 minutes to scare them...but not to practil in an urban neighborhood.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: This years first crop of Avocado and Mango!
« on: April 02, 2012, 07:15:19 PM »
Small avo aborts are actually edible, but quite bland.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Trouble with indoor cacao
« on: April 02, 2012, 06:21:17 PM »
Quote from: CoPlantNut on April 02, 2012, 03:21:50 PM
My first cacao was grown in my dorm room at the University of Colorado 19 years ago; it lived and grew a little but always looked bad and was a magnet for spider mites.  I gave up on it when it was a couple feet tall- put it outside to see how it would fare in Colorado weather, and it was toast within hours.

Several years later I grew another couple plants in my first basement plant growing chamber when I could give it 60% humidity; that plant did great until my A/C broke while I was at work one day.  The temperature in my grow-room was over 100 and the humidity below 30%, and the cacao was a limp pile of leaves.  It never recovered from that.

I haven't tried growing cacao since, but there are bearing-age plants at the University of Colorado greenhouses in Boulder.  I think that Theobroma really require constant humidity to be happy.

   Kevin

Yes the cacao likes constant high humidity. I suggest 80% or higher. They also like partial shade when small, suggest 60% shade cloth.
Oscar

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best methods / device for driving away fruit eating pests.
« on: April 02, 2012, 06:17:52 PM »
I've heard that hanging CD's fron plastic line on trees so they can spin works well. Probably depends on type of birds though, whether they are high tech savy.  ;)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Watering mango trees while fruits are forming?
« on: April 02, 2012, 06:14:20 PM »
Conventional wisdom is also that water stress is important for getting trees to flower, but you don't want to stress trees when they are fruiting.
Oscar

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: This years first crop of Avocado and Mango!
« on: April 02, 2012, 05:05:26 PM »
You forgot to say what cultivars those are? How do you rate them, and what is the parentage?  ;)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Let's hear it for Central FL, Jabuticabeira central
« on: April 02, 2012, 05:00:36 PM »
Pretty hard core desperate! Not an easy crime toconceal!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Green Sapote First Flowering and Comparison with Mamey Fruit
« on: April 02, 2012, 04:59:21 PM »
As i said earlier my Makawao grafted trees took 10 years to flower, but then again they were hardly ever fertilized.
Oscar

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Bumper Harvest of Durians
« on: April 02, 2012, 04:52:47 PM »
Quote from: lycheeluva on April 02, 2012, 08:19:29 AM
was that truck intending to move with the durians loaded on like that or was it just used as a stationary container for the durians. if the former, how on earth did they not tumble off when the truck moved, even with a tarp cover.

There are thousands of trucks like this moving all over Thailand, carrying not just durians but also rambutans, mangosteens, watermelons, etc. They wrap them with tarps. You won't find a single fruit of anything on the roads! Not like here where every time a truck takes a turn a few papayas fall out. I wish those types of truck pipe racks were available here, they are incredilbly handy!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Green Sapote First Flowering and Comparison with Mamey Fruit
« on: April 02, 2012, 04:45:05 PM »
Quote from: HMHausman on April 02, 2012, 04:20:08 PM
Quote from: NewGen on April 02, 2012, 03:42:03 PM
How long will it take for a seedling (Pouteria viridis) to fruit?
Thanks,

Many moons!  Too many to count, probably.  I have seen reports of frutiting in 7-8 years from seed.  I am more of the belief that it is 10-15 years....and perhaps longer.

Harry

The perhaps longer applies in my case. I have one very tall GS seedling, over 25 ft., over 15 years old and still hasnt' flowered. But the grafted trees don't break any speed records either!
Oscar

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sugar Cane Juicer
« on: April 02, 2012, 06:58:23 AM »
The best motorized sugar cane presses are made in Thailand. The best hand crank sugar cane presses are made in India and Indonesia. But it's very difficult to find a distributor for any of these in the USA and shipping them from place of origin is very expensive due to heavy weight.
Oscar

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Atemoya or Cherimoya?
« on: April 02, 2012, 06:54:23 AM »
In general cherimoyas are better quality than atemoyas, but unless you live at high elevation you will have to go with atemoya as cherimoya will not fruit in tropical climates. Most of the lucumas are the same, unless you are up high they're not gonna fruit for you.
Oscar

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Let's hear it for Central FL, Jabuticabeira central
« on: April 02, 2012, 12:12:36 AM »
Quote from: Anikulapo on April 01, 2012, 10:49:25 PM
No I've never spotted one yet.

Chris Rollins said he had a nice paulista fruiting size tree at spice park, and one day when he went out to go see it, she was gone!

Someone treenapped this tree!

Talk about a coveted fruit!  Dear lord..take a seed or a fruit, not the whole plant...its just not classy.

I hope the thieves at least kept it alive! If u are out there u know who you are, and may you have deformed fruits and burnt leaf tips for the rest of your days.

You mean they dug it out of the ground?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Let's hear it for Central FL, Jabuticabeira central
« on: April 01, 2012, 10:41:52 PM »
Looks nice! Do you have Paulista over there? Also gets about 50 cent piece size and has very large leaves.
Oscar

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What is your All Time Slowest Growing Plant?
« on: April 01, 2012, 10:38:50 PM »
Quote from: Anikulapo on April 01, 2012, 09:59:40 PM
Oscar,

I have seen some miracle fruit trees here around 10ft tall x7ft wide, and know of some specimens around 8ft tall or more (planted out), being grown in containers.

Bill Whitmans tree was largest in USA, and was around 20ft (there's a pic of Bob Canon next to the tree in Whitmans book pg 303, when it was quite large, but not as big as it eventually grew).

In Ghana the tree has a max height of about 25ft.

U are correct in saying it never really gets big though.  U r lucky to see one over 6ft tall.

trees are capable of putting on 20 inches of growth in one push!

Hi Adam, thanks, i never noticed that photo before. But judging from that photo it was 15 ft. at time photo was taken. I've seen ones that tall here, but not as wide as in that photo. How old was that tree?
Oscar

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Green Sapote First Flowering and Comparison with Mamey Fruit
« on: April 01, 2012, 10:34:10 PM »
Just did another taste test of green sapote vs. Pantin. Now they were both tasted after refrigeration. It seems to me that the GS has a little bit better texture, a bit more moist and goes down easier. The Pantin might have a very slight edge on taste, but not sure on that yet. Anyway, the differences are extremely subtle. Most people couldn't tell them apart in blind taste test. Both are totally fiberless and totally yummy.
Oscar

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: caimito fruit- star apple
« on: April 01, 2012, 10:31:08 PM »
Quote from: HMHausman on April 01, 2012, 10:06:11 PM
Thanks, Robert.  Your thoughts are pretty much what I expected you to say.  I am not going to say anything more about Caimito that could be construed to be neagtive until I get to try Oscar's.

Harry

Oh mine isn't the only good starapple out there. I just think it's one of the better ones. Did you note that Stressbaby likes abiu better than mango Harry, or better than lychee Lycheeluva. Double blasphemy! Abiu is a good fruit, but i've never seen one person put it in their top 10 list as is lychee and mango.
Oscar
 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: More on the J-31 Jakfruit
« on: April 01, 2012, 09:06:57 PM »
Quote from: HMHausman on April 01, 2012, 08:50:09 PM
LOL....thanks Oscar.  Shows you how fine a proof reader I am.  I intially wrote 8 but thought that I was being too generous and changed it to 7.....or 87 until I just did an edit.  Yeah, most folks do try to keep their trees short.....but i am not most people.  My jaks have gotten way to large.  Not quite 87 feet, but getting there.

Harry

Inadvertent april fool's joke? I've seen jackfruit trees that tall, but never here. Only in India. I think very old jacks can get close to 100 feet tall. Saw a photo of one that big also in Brazil where they grow wild in many places.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What is your All Time Slowest Growing Plant?
« on: April 01, 2012, 08:41:41 PM »
Quote from: ericalynne on April 01, 2012, 08:13:37 PM


Ha! Oscar, have you never seen Whitman's miracle fruit tree? Most people don't even recognize it as miracle fruit it is so large, a real tree. I will have to look up a photo for you.

Erica

Hi Erica, no i haven't seen that photo.You sure that was S. dulcificum and not another species of synsepalum? Tallest miracle fruit tree i've seen here was about 12 feet tall and i think about 40 years old. I've got a 20 year old that is about 7 feet tall.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What is your All Time Slowest Growing Plant?
« on: April 01, 2012, 08:34:56 PM »
Quote from: enduser on April 01, 2012, 07:43:35 PM


Thanks Oscar for the info. I got my seeds from the fruit and spice park. The shape, texture, and flavor reminded me of a guinep or Spanish lime. Chris Rollins recommended the fruit to me, but he never said anything about there being male trees or needing cross pollination. He did mention that it is much more cold tolerant then the Spanish lime. I'm curious if you tried to pollinate the flowers yourself?

Haven't tried to pollinate them myself, at least not yet. Would have to use very tiny brush. The flowers are super small. (That is tip of my index finger next to flowers for scale.)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: More on the J-31 Jakfruit
« on: April 01, 2012, 08:32:39 PM »
Quote from: HMHausman on April 01, 2012, 08:27:38 PM
The tree resprouted from the roots and is now over 87 feet tall but hasb't re-bloomed as of yet.

Is that a typo? It resprouted to 87 feet tall? I thought folks in FL like to keep their trees on the short side so hurricanes don't blow them over?  ???

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Green Sapote First Flowering and Comparison with Mamey Fruit
« on: April 01, 2012, 07:32:34 PM »
Quote from: JF on April 01, 2012, 07:27:01 PM

Great! when can I expect the fruits little GS?

Quote from: fruitlovers on April 01, 2012, 05:53:52 PM
JF, congratulations, those are definitely flowers emerging on your GS. Keep us posted.
Oscar

They take many months, but can't give exact number. Better be patient because they are sllllooowww.

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