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Re: Annona squamosa with red/pink flesh? have you seent one?
« Reply #75 on: August 18, 2016, 12:06:05 PM »
here is the updated photo of the legendary Annona 'Negro'...big enough to set a fruit, just barely.

just defoliated partially to encourage some more blooms.

I'm really pleased with the sugar apple rootstock I used.

I see a few more blooms on the way, so there is still a chance for fruit set this season!







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Re: Annona squamosa with red/pink flesh? have you seent one?
« Reply #76 on: August 18, 2016, 12:58:50 PM »
Bob & Adam this appears to be like saramoyo morado(purple) do you have pix?

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Re: Annona squamosa with red/pink flesh? have you seent one?
« Reply #77 on: August 18, 2016, 03:07:14 PM »
Bob & Adam this appears to be like saramoyo morado(purple) do you have pix?

wait I'm confused...I thought they just call all sugar apple Saramoyo regardless of color...is there a variety called 'Morado'?

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Re: Annona squamosa with red/pink flesh? have you seent one?
« Reply #78 on: August 18, 2016, 03:41:21 PM »
Saramuyo is sugar apple, and I believe "morado" is the color 'purple' in spanish...referencing the skin color... 

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Re: Annona squamosa with red/pink flesh? have you seent one?
« Reply #79 on: August 18, 2016, 03:47:13 PM »
here is the updated photo of the legendary Annona 'Negro'...big enough to set a fruit, just barely.

just defoliated partially to encourage some more blooms.

I'm really pleased with the sugar apple rootstock I used.

I see a few more blooms on the way, so there is still a chance for fruit set this season!








She's a beauty!! It's growing very nice. It has a very bushy nature!

I like how all the branches are coming out very close to each other. Did you trim it to get it to branch out like that? I don't think I've seen any sugar apple do that!

Thanks for sharing the pics..:) Can't wait till you fruit it! Good luck!

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Re: Annona squamosa with red/pink flesh? have you seent one?
« Reply #80 on: August 18, 2016, 04:16:12 PM »
Zambezi,

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but yes, I have been pruning the tree...I think that has made it so bushy...also, I give it 100% full sun, even so much the leaves will wilt and burn sometimes...if i forget to water on time.

from what i heard, the mother tree (which has now been destroyed) didn't have a particularly bushy habit
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Re: Annona squamosa with red/pink flesh? have you seent one?
« Reply #81 on: August 18, 2016, 06:40:25 PM »
No problem Flyingfoxfruits..:)

There's no hurry; whenever you get a chance is fine. 

Ahh that explains it. It really has pushed out nicely.

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Re: Annona squamosa with red/pink flesh? have you seent one?
« Reply #82 on: September 18, 2016, 06:43:03 PM »
finally remembered to hand pollinate...looks like a fruit or two may have set...will post an update if they hold.
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Re: Annona squamosa with red/pink flesh? have you seent one?
« Reply #83 on: December 17, 2016, 08:40:31 PM »
Had some fruit set...you could see they had red pigmentation...but they quickly fell off!

it doesn't seem to want to set fruit yet, unless i hand pollinate...and still i only seemed to get half of those flowers to set.

I still won't give up until i get a fruit!  I just bumped the plant up from a 5gal to a 15gal...it's branching out like crazy.



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Re: Annona squamosa with red/pink flesh? have you seent one?
« Reply #84 on: December 17, 2016, 11:36:27 PM »
Want me to come up and prune that for you? I'll even take the trimmed waste offsite for you.
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Re: Annona squamosa with red/pink flesh? have you seent one?
« Reply #85 on: December 18, 2016, 09:13:58 AM »
Want me to come up and prune that for you? I'll even take the trimmed waste offsite for you.
Yes, I'd be happy to lend a hand with this as well!
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Re: Annona squamosa with red/pink flesh? have you seent one?
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Re: Annona squamosa with red/pink flesh? have you seent one?
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Re: Annona squamosa with red/pink flesh? have you seent one?
« Reply #89 on: August 24, 2017, 02:36:38 AM »
Truth or myth?  Please tell us.  What are your findings? 




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Re: Annona squamosa with red/pink flesh? have you seent one?
« Reply #90 on: August 24, 2017, 05:00:14 PM »
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Re: Annona squamosa with red/pink flesh? have you seent one?
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Re: Annona squamosa with red/pink flesh? have you seent one?
« Reply #94 on: August 27, 2017, 09:19:51 PM »
I have faith in you Adam. 

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Re: Annona squamosa with red/pink flesh? have you seent one?
« Reply #95 on: October 06, 2017, 06:00:25 PM »
I was waiting for Robert Smith to post any updates on this variety, but as of now, he's in Vieques, which just got ravaged by Hurricane Maria, so he doesn't have cell phone service, running water, or electricity.  Despite lack of infrastructure, I'm praying he's eating well and feeling fine (I'm quite certain he was safe for the storm, but he's probably miserable by now, due to all the chaos).

Bob and I were racing to fruit this variety (which was collected via scionwood about 3y ago), his tree had a fruit set at the same time as mine (I assume he harvested his right before me, but couldn't post an update because of Maria).  I would have waited until he was able to post again, but only if the news was good.  I had 3 fruits set on my tree, and the smallest one split open the other day.  It turned out to be just a normal red sugar apple, not much different than big red in terms of texture, internal color, and eating quality.

Here is a photo of the biggest, nicest fruit I was able to produce, it still has yet to ripen, but I'm assuming the internal color is just a standard white color.

When all is said and done, it was a fun ride.  I think the moral of the story is, never lose hope, keep searching for that special plant...maybe not a pink fleshed squamosa, but something special and undiscovered, is out there waiting....



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Re: Annona squamosa with red/pink flesh? have you seent one?
« Reply #96 on: October 06, 2017, 10:42:41 PM »
The red flesh in Sugar Apple is most probably a recessive trait. If we cross this strain enough to other red Sugar Apple strains or other phenotypes green Sugar Apples with red genes, we might one day get this elusive Big Red Foot. The power of backyard breeders is still under tapped.

I'd be interested in some seeds if you still have some left, Adam. Or scions.
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Re: Annona squamosa with red/pink flesh? have you seent one?
« Reply #97 on: October 09, 2017, 05:05:31 PM »
lol, so i finally cut open the best fruit, and it wanted to have pink flesh so bad...I can see the color trying to creep into the carpels, it is the closest thing I've seen to pigment in the flesh (probably because I wanted it to be true, so badly), but still, not what I'd consider having pigment in the flesh.

the fruit was tasty, but had typical seed count, being relatively seedy.

here's the pics...after 3y of hype....a delicious failure.  ;D





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Re: Annona squamosa with red/pink flesh? have you seent one?
« Reply #98 on: October 09, 2017, 05:44:51 PM »
Hi. well, it is pink enought! ;-)
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Re: Annona squamosa with red/pink flesh? have you seent one?
« Reply #99 on: October 09, 2017, 05:50:39 PM »
Hi. well, it is pink enought! ;-)

haha, i know i want to believe it's not white fleshed, and has more pink than other squamosa varieties...but the fact that it's debatable pisses me off...i wanted it to be pink like dragon fruit haha...

i think we could take this to supereme court, and argue it has pigmented flesh, of pink color...but the fact is, the color is not really that striking, or outstanding.  It's very ambiguous.

still, i wonder if the color can be more intense?  this is the best of only 3 fruits that i could get to ripen, the others were runts, that split open a little bit early, the flesh color was similar, but not quite as much pinkish color.

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