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Re: Visit to Jim West's Place in Ecuador
« Reply #25 on: October 08, 2014, 02:31:54 PM »
Eager to see the photos! Sounds amazing.

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Re: Visit to Jim West's Place in Ecuador
« Reply #26 on: October 09, 2014, 09:44:04 PM »
I went to a presentation by Jim at the best of both worlds. Great guy.

I had some notes of some fruits I wanted to try to grow... and IF (that is a big IF).. I was more organized I probably would be able to recall what they were.....

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Re: Visit to Jim West's Place in Ecuador
« Reply #27 on: October 09, 2014, 11:02:18 PM »
Wow, sounds like your having too much fun Oscar, can't wait to see some of your excellent photo's of Jim's place, I was amazed by Jim's talk and photo's at 'Best of Both Worlds' conference.

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Re: Visit to Jim West's Place in Ecuador
« Reply #28 on: October 11, 2014, 10:18:13 PM »
At the Fruit & Spice Conference. I asked Jim what fruits he'd like to grow in Ecuador but couldn't and his eyes got wide and he just about yelled Mango!!! For a pretty low-key guy, he got really excited about having the chance to eat lots of mangos over here. Guess it's too wet at his location to grow them there.

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I don't think Jim has made much of an attempt either at growing mangos. There are some anthracnose resistant types that would probably fruit well at his location. I fruit them in Hawaii where rainfall is much more evenly spread out through the year. Jim does have a dry season, unlike at my place. So he could do it. He did complain that his Kuini (M. odorata) didn't fruit, but i think he had it mislabeled as Kuini has very large leaves, and his leaves looked like regular mango to me. Also he should try Kasturi, which he didn't have.

I sent this post on the forum to Jim in an email and he gave the following reply:

 i beg
to differ w what you said about mangos here...

the 2 big odoratas you saw were from andy adair who knows his fruits,
and the red flowers and few fruits it produced once fit their
description, im sure thats what they are. i also have 2 other
odorata trees from other sources. and a huge kasturi tree you saw, it
hasnt flowered, and a smaller kasturi graft. but more to the point i
have several mango trees, some of the anthracnose resistant type.
they dont produce.

we had unusually dry weather when you were here, but id say much of
what we call dry season here is more wet and drizzly (tho never rainy)
than even your rainy season in puna.

Here is my reply to Jim:
I appreciate you comments on mango. I didn't know at the time i was on
your farm that you liked mangos so much. Which anthracnose resistant
cultivars do you have? Part of the reason for my Hamakua orchard is to
find the "ideal" antthracnose resistant mango cultivars. I have over 50
cultivars planted. Still a bit early for results, but i have a few that
i think are going to be winners.
Who is Adair? I am also certain my odorata trees are reall article, and
they have huge leaves, nothing like on your trees. I can send you
photos of the leaves later on if you like?
It would be interesting to share climate data and compare climates. I
thought you had told me there is certain time of year when it is dry at
your place? We have no dry season at all, and humidity always is around
90-100%. So if i can produce mangos i think you should be able to do so
also.
Oscar

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Re: Visit to Jim West's Place in Ecuador
« Reply #29 on: October 12, 2014, 12:37:05 PM »
Dear fruitlover

I want to buy some herrania seeds from Jim West next year. (my country season is entering winter....)

but he doesn't trade any more with new customer. Plz help me....

I really want to entering his customer list.

It is too difficult to buy herrania seeds...

Thanks.




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Re: Visit to Jim West's Place in Ecuador
« Reply #30 on: October 22, 2014, 01:17:40 AM »
Dear fruitlover

I want to buy some herrania seeds from Jim West next year. (my country season is entering winter....)

but he doesn't trade any more with new customer. Plz help me....

I really want to entering his customer list.

It is too difficult to buy herrania seeds...

Thanks.
Will probably offer Herrania seeds in near future. Just keep checking my seedlist at fruitlovers.com
Oscar

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Re: Visit to Jim West's Place in Ecuador
« Reply #31 on: October 22, 2014, 02:25:26 PM »
Om the subject of Jim West ,I was able to get some seeds from  him at the FRUIT cONFERENCE In July.Some are sprouting now but I did not get the sheet listing the names. I do have the numbers .Does any one have the names to go with the numbers ?.

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Re: Visit to Jim West's Place in Ecuador
« Reply #32 on: October 22, 2014, 03:22:55 PM »
I might have the paper, but i will have to pore through the bag the seeds came in.  I plan on cleaning out my shed in the coming months, so I will let you know if i come across the paper with the #s on it.
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Re: Visit to Jim West's Place in Ecuador
« Reply #33 on: October 22, 2014, 04:40:00 PM »
If you've got seedlings coming up and want to post pictures, one of us that also attended the conference may be able to match them with theirs.

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Re: Visit to Jim West's Place in Ecuador
« Reply #34 on: October 24, 2014, 09:20:43 PM »
Gunnar429 and jez251 thanx for responding.I have 14 sprouts I have two types of passion and also what looks like garcina an another that looks like eugina, there are still small.I will try to send pics soon.Are either of you growing any seeds from Jim West?

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Re: Visit to Jim West's Place in Ecuador
« Reply #35 on: October 25, 2014, 03:04:33 AM »
Hi Jabotica,

I am growing a few of his seeds. These are from the conference and slightly before that.

Jaime

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Re: Visit to Jim West's Place in Ecuador
« Reply #36 on: October 25, 2014, 07:13:43 AM »
I'm back home now and had some time to add photos to my original post of my visit to Jim West's place. You can see the fruit photos here: http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=12783.msg162879#msg162879
Oscar

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Re: Visit to Jim West's Place in Ecuador
« Reply #37 on: October 25, 2014, 04:37:37 PM »
Om the subject of Jim West ,I was able to get some seeds from  him at the FRUIT cONFERENCE In July.Some are sprouting now but I did not get the sheet listing the names. I do have the numbers .Does any one have the names to go with the numbers ?.

If you give the index numbers will try to find out for you.
Oscar

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Re: Visit to Jim West's Place in Ecuador
« Reply #38 on: October 26, 2014, 12:46:24 PM »
Nice pic's Oscar 8)

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Re: Visit to Jim West's Place in Ecuador
« Reply #39 on: October 26, 2014, 03:16:21 PM »
The index numbers from Jim West are #1,2,3,6,and 8 .they are still small but looking good.

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Re: Visit to Jim West's Place in Ecuador
« Reply #40 on: October 26, 2014, 07:13:23 PM »
The index numbers from Jim West are #1,2,3,6,and 8 .they are still small but looking good.

Can't help you with that. Those aren't his regular index numbers, which are 4 digit numbers.
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Re: Visit to Jim West's Place in Ecuador
« Reply #41 on: October 26, 2014, 07:41:27 PM »
Great photos Oscar.  Thanks for posting

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Re: Visit to Jim West's Place in Ecuador
« Reply #42 on: October 26, 2014, 07:44:02 PM »
Hi Jabotica,

You may want to email him directly, he may still have that numbered list.

Jaime

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Re: Visit to Jim West's Place in Ecuador
« Reply #43 on: December 09, 2014, 12:54:13 PM »
Good news!! I found the sheet from this summer.  PM me if you need info
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Re: Visit to Jim West's Place in Ecuador
« Reply #44 on: December 09, 2014, 12:57:27 PM »
The index numbers from Jim West are #1,2,3,6,and 8 .they are still small but looking good.

Ok, here goes:

1.  Alibertia edulis (purui)
2.  Artocarpus sarawakensis (marang de sarawak)
3.  Baccaurea dulcis (menteng besar)
6.  Bixa orellana (dwarf annatto)
8.  Castilla elastica (castile rubber)

Jabotica, Let me know if you need others.
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Re: Visit to Jim West's Place in Ecuador
« Reply #45 on: December 09, 2014, 09:25:59 PM »
gunnar
Much thanks for the info. None turned out to be what i thought they were, but numbers 1,2,and 3 look interesting I have others but none   . 
have sprouted
I hope you have luck with yours

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Re: Visit to Jim West's Place in Ecuador
« Reply #46 on: December 10, 2014, 02:38:53 PM »
Oscar, there was some discussion in the past about g. Magnifolia and the fact that it was unusual for an American garcinia to be diocious.  Also, when Harry was here he remarked that in his experience g. Magnifolia was not such a great fruit.  As we have noted, there is confusion in this genus.  Have you learned anything new about this species, and what is your impression of the fruit, would it sell well at a farmers' market?
Thanks,
Peter

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Re: Visit to Jim West's Place in Ecuador
« Reply #47 on: December 10, 2014, 04:19:43 PM »
Oscar, there was some discussion in the past about g. Magnifolia and the fact that it was unusual for an American garcinia to be diocious.  Also, when Harry was here he remarked that in his experience g. Magnifolia was not such a great fruit.  As we have noted, there is confusion in this genus.  Have you learned anything new about this species, and what is your impression of the fruit, would it sell well at a farmers' market?
Thanks,
Peter

Hi Peter, unfortunately forgot to ask Jim about this issue when i was there. It does seem odd to me that only one Rheedia species would be dioecious. Will try to ask him in correspondance. I did eat the fruit while there and thought it was good. Whether it would sell in your local farmer's market i don't know, but would guess that it would.
Saludos, Oscar
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Re: Visit to Jim West's Place in Ecuador
« Reply #48 on: December 11, 2014, 08:32:18 AM »
Oscar, there was some discussion in the past about g. Magnifolia and the fact that it was unusual for an American garcinia to be diocious.  Also, when Harry was here he remarked that in his experience g. Magnifolia was not such a great fruit.  As we have noted, there is confusion in this genus.  Have you learned anything new about this species, and what is your impression of the fruit, would it sell well at a farmers' market?
Thanks,
Peter

Hi Peter.  I did not mean to say that the fruit did not taste good.  The flavor is good.  The problem, as with many of its relatives, is scant edible flesh and large seed content.  That has been my experience anyway. As far as sales in a Farmer's market setting, I would think they may sell but would not bring a premium price. They would be considered more of an oddity than a good food source.  Maybe there is a better edible pulp to seed ratio out there somewhere waiting to be discovered.  The plant does very well for me as far as hardiness, disease resistance and growth rate.  Best regards......
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Re: Visit to Jim West's Place in Ecuador
« Reply #49 on: December 11, 2014, 09:05:02 AM »
Oscar, there was some discussion in the past about g. Magnifolia and the fact that it was unusual for an American garcinia to be diocious.  Also, when Harry was here he remarked that in his experience g. Magnifolia was not such a great fruit.  As we have noted, there is confusion in this genus.  Have you learned anything new about this species, and what is your impression of the fruit, would it sell well at a farmers' market?
Thanks,
Peter

Hi Peter.  I did not mean to say that the fruit did not taste good.  The flavor is good.  The problem, as with many of its relatives, is scant edible flesh and large seed content.  That has been my experience anyway. As far as sales in a Farmer's market setting, I would think they may sell but would not bring a premium price. They would be considered more of an oddity than a good food source.  Maybe there is a better edible pulp to seed ratio out there somewhere waiting to be discovered.  The plant does very well for me as far as hardiness, disease resistance and growth rate.  Best regards......

Luc's Mexican Garcinia
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