Author Topic: Question for Jaboticaba Experts (Read 6613 times)

Seadation · « **on:** November 30, 2014, 09:01:57 PM »

How invasive are the roots of a Jabo. I am planing on planting one close to my house in between two windows and about 4 feet from my wall will this be ok? I'm trying to redo my landscape and Jaboticabas are so ornamental I want to include it in my plans. Thanks!
Ron

bsbullie · « **Reply #1 on:** November 30, 2014, 09:06:39 PM »

The problem i see is planting it only 4 feet from the house. Not due to root issues but the tree will need more space for the foliage. You dont want to have the limb(s) growing into your house/roof. Can you move it out to at least 6 feet, preferably 8 feet?

fruitlovers · « **Reply #2 on:** December 01, 2014, 12:21:57 AM »

Fruits stain when they drop. If you really want it that close to the house maybe consider having it in a large pot. That way if you need to when fruiting or dropping too much you can move it away?

Seadation · « **Reply #3 on:** December 01, 2014, 12:59:56 AM »

Thanks for the suggestions guys!

luc · « **Reply #4 on:** December 01, 2014, 10:39:13 AM »

The roots will not affect the house / walls , but you need to put it where it gets maximum sunlight .

Cookie Monster · « **Reply #5 on:** December 01, 2014, 10:55:01 AM »

My experience with a couple of large (12+ year old and 30+ year old trees) has been:

- The roots are incredibly dainty, basically purely feeder roots. The non aggressive nature of the roots presents a problem: because they don't aggressively seek out water, even my 30+ year old tree needs supplemental water if we go 2 weeks without rain. And, hurricanes pretty easily yank them out of the ground (but they are easy to right and reset).

- They can take and will appreciate some light shade. My larger tree is 12 feet away my gigantic canistel tree and is much happier than the one I have out in the open. That said, they will not fruit if placed in heavy shade (a friend of mine has one under the canopy of a giant edward that stopped producing when the shade of the mango completely engulfed it).

So, I would say you could be fine planting the tree in the desired location, as long as it's still getting some sunlight (ie, the north side of the house may not be a good idea). I did something similar with my vexator, and it's been quite happy.

Central Floridave · « **Reply #6 on:** December 01, 2014, 03:58:46 PM »

The only success I have had growing jaboticaba are the trees that are planted really close to my house. Easily within 4 feet. The trees have grown over the roof line. I have to hedge them back off the roofline every so often. They are ornamental. I have no regrets planting them too close to the house. Just plan on cutting them back in ten years. They grow super slow of course.

FlyingFoxFruits · « **Reply #7 on:** December 01, 2014, 04:49:48 PM »

Quote from: Central Floridave on December 01, 2014, 03:58:46 PM

The only success I have had growing jaboticaba are the trees that are planted really close to my house. Easily within 4 feet. The trees have grown over the roof line. I have to hedge them back off the roofline every so often. They are ornamental. I have no regrets planting them too close to the house. Just plan on cutting them back in ten years. They grow super slow of course.

yes depending on the variety, they can be fruited in tight spaces, and pruned heavily...being that they fruit on the old wood, its a benefit to growing them in crowded settings.

they don't even need full sun to have decent fruit production, so don't worry about maximizing sunlight, although it would be ideal to have at least 40% sun (or 3hrs of full sunlight per day)

bsbullie · « **Reply #8 on:** December 01, 2014, 05:20:05 PM »

Sounds like Ron wants this for both ornamental and fruit producti ok n...and with that being the case. Wohld look much better if let to grow naturally and not constant pruning.

bsbullie · « **Reply #9 on:** December 01, 2014, 05:22:37 PM »

I wohld also add that if it planted zo close to the house and given proper irrigation (more than just what standard landscape material requires), there is the potential for water damage to the house.

FlyingFoxFruits · « **Reply #10 on:** December 01, 2014, 05:38:37 PM »

Quote from: bsbullie on December 01, 2014, 05:20:05 PM

Sounds like Ron wants this for both ornamental and fruit producti ok n...and with that being the case. Wohld look much better if let to grow naturally and not constant pruning.

I think they look nicer when they're all pruned up...this way they multi colored peeling bark is visible, and it will also make the flowers and fruit easier to see....which adds ornamental appeal, but makes fruits more visble / vulnerable to birds (and other animals)....leaving them unpruned will have benefits, but I always encourage my customers to prune them (because this is what I do personally)

Cookie Monster · « **Reply #11 on:** December 01, 2014, 07:22:22 PM »

Yah, they do require supplemental irrigation to prosper. Both of mine are now hooked into drip irrigation.

Seadation · « **Reply #12 on:** December 01, 2014, 08:27:13 PM »

Thanks for all the help guys. So optimally wish I had a bigger yard but my back yard is out of space and wife wasn't letting me touch the front yard until now lol. So I planted the Jabo which I have had for about 3 years now in a pot (got it from you Jeff). I ended up planting it where I was asking about 4ft from the house north facing between two windows smack center of the house. I plan it on being an ornamental mainly (what I told wife)and of course hoping for some fruit. This area does get some sun throughout the summer but not much now as the sun sits further to the south this time of year. And I am also planning on keeping it nicely pruned they are truly beautiful trees. I will try to get a picture up tomorrow.

FlyingFoxFruits · « **Reply #13 on:** December 01, 2014, 08:34:52 PM »

Quote from: Seadation on December 01, 2014, 08:27:13 PM

Thanks for all the help guys. So optimally wish I had a bigger yard but my back yard is out of space and wife wasn't letting me touch the front yard until now lol. So I planted the Jabo which I have had for about 3 years now in a pot (got it from you Jeff). I ended up planting it where I was asking about 4ft from the house north facing between two windows smack center of the house. I plan it on being an ornamental mainly (what I told wife)and of course hoping for some fruit. This area does get some sun throughout the summer but not much now as the sun sits further to the south this time of year. And I am also planning on keeping it nicely pruned they are truly beautiful trees. I will try to get a picture up tomorrow.

I think you'll be happy with your choice of planting, the tree is easy to maintain, and can be pruned really heavy if you want (I've seen a pic from Bill Whitman's orchard, where it looked like he gave them the crepe myrtle treatment!)

Seadation · « **Reply #14 on:** December 02, 2014, 12:30:36 PM »

cbss_daviefl · « **Reply #15 on:** December 02, 2014, 12:42:26 PM »

Looks great!

Seadation · « **Reply #16 on:** December 02, 2014, 12:56:04 PM »

Thanks! Now I have to fill it it with some nice landscaping stuff to complete it.

Bush2Beach · « **Reply #17 on:** December 02, 2014, 03:14:15 PM »

Quote from: Seadation on December 02, 2014, 12:56:04 PM

Thanks! Now I have to fill it it with some nice landscaping stuff to complete it.

Yes, more "Ornamentals" i.e. More attractive fruiting bushes, palms & trees.

FlyingFoxFruits · « **Reply #18 on:** December 02, 2014, 04:49:27 PM »

looking good! I bet the tree will be as tall as the roof in another 2 yrs!

i like the prune job too.

greenman62 · « **Reply #19 on:** December 03, 2014, 04:22:00 AM »

The huge black rocks are perfect for collecting and holding heat
the rocks will release the heat at night
Does the sun hit them in the winter ?
I take it, you are in zone 10 or better ?

Seadation · « **Reply #20 on:** December 03, 2014, 11:10:52 PM »

Yes I'm in zone 10. This spot gets very little sun now in the winter but a good amount in the summer.

Seadation · « **Reply #21 on:** March 30, 2015, 09:15:28 PM »

Update on my Jabo it's flowering for the first time.

fisherking73 · « **Reply #22 on:** March 30, 2015, 09:19:26 PM »

Awesome!! Can't wait till mine fruits. Probably next year the earliest, but most likely the year after

FlyingFoxFruits · « **Reply #23 on:** March 30, 2015, 09:35:54 PM »

killer dude...the prune job might have helped?

congrats!

Seadation · « **Reply #24 on:** May 07, 2015, 08:33:56 AM »

Thanks Guys! Here is a pic from today. Are they ready to eat as soon as they turn purple?

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