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Che (mandarin melon berry) Maclura tricuspidata
« on: May 04, 2015, 07:36:19 PM »
I got my grafted trees from Treesnmore, (Seedless variety on Osage orange rootstock)

here is some info from Just fruits and exotics, another wonderful nursery that sells Che. (they say it's not flood tolerant, but I planted osage orange in the wettest part of my lot, and it's thriving...so as long as you get eventual drainage, I think you can plant che/ grafted onto osage orange....my lot has standing water for days...but always drains eventually...and the water table is about 2.5-4ft down.)
http://www.justfruitsandexotics.com/JFE/JF%20Che.pdf

I'm planting more of these asap!  I needed something unique and easy to grow (cold hearty, and drought/flood tolerant)
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Re: Che (mandarin melon berry) Cudrania tricuspidata
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2015, 08:55:43 PM »
Che grafted onto Osage Orange can tolerate all kinds of abuse! I'm not sure how flood tolerant che is on its own root but avoid growing them on their own roots because of the excessive suckers. All female che trees without a male tree present are seedless. If you want seeds get a male. The only issue is the female trees take about 3 to 5 years to produce a good crop. It is worth the wait for the nice seedless fruit. Do not pull the fruit from the tree. If it doesn't come off with a gentle pull give it another day. If you pull the fruit off with force it will be dripping sap and will not taste good.
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Re: Che (mandarin melon berry) Cudrania tricuspidata
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2015, 01:19:39 PM »
Thanks for the info Ed! I have 5 four year old tree's from seed and it looks like some Male, some Female. These thorny bastards are getting big enough to fruit I hope. They have taken drought and abuse well and now I'm babying them to let them know it's their time to shine. I'll post pics on any flower / fruit progress.

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Re: Che (mandarin melon berry) Cudrania tricuspidata
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2015, 02:39:10 PM »
I got my grafted trees from Treesnmore, (Seedless variety on Osage orange rootstock)

here is some info from Just fruits and exotics, another wonderful nursery that sells Che. (they say it's not flood tolerant, but I planted osage orange in the wettest part of my lot, and it's thriving...so as long as you get eventual drainage, I think you can plant che/ grafted onto osage orange....my lot has standing water for days...but always drains eventually...and the water table is about 2.5-4ft down.)
http://www.justfruitsandexotics.com/JFE/JF%20Che.pdf

I'm planting more of these asap!  I needed something unique and easy to grow (cold hearty, and drought/flood tolerant)


How big are the ones from treesnmore? I'm looking for some instant gratification. The ones I have now are about a foot tall.

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Re: Che (mandarin melon berry) Cudrania tricuspidata
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2015, 02:54:20 PM »
don't be buying up my grafted Che's from Treesnmo before I get there!

we might have to get into a cat fight in the parking lot... :P

oh by the way, they are about 1.5-2ft tall last time I checked.

(I'm trying to head down there soon, maybe I can pick one up for you?  I planned on getting at least 4-5)

I got my grafted trees from Treesnmore, (Seedless variety on Osage orange rootstock)

here is some info from Just fruits and exotics, another wonderful nursery that sells Che. (they say it's not flood tolerant, but I planted osage orange in the wettest part of my lot, and it's thriving...so as long as you get eventual drainage, I think you can plant che/ grafted onto osage orange....my lot has standing water for days...but always drains eventually...and the water table is about 2.5-4ft down.)
http://www.justfruitsandexotics.com/JFE/JF%20Che.pdf

I'm planting more of these asap!  I needed something unique and easy to grow (cold hearty, and drought/flood tolerant)


How big are the ones from treesnmore? I'm looking for some instant gratification. The ones I have now are about a foot tall.
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Re: Che (mandarin melon berry) Cudrania tricuspidata
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2015, 11:52:19 AM »
don't be buying up my grafted Che's from Treesnmo before I get there!

we might have to get into a cat fight in the parking lot... :P

oh by the way, they are about 1.5-2ft tall last time I checked.

(I'm trying to head down there soon, maybe I can pick one up for you?  I planned on getting at least 4-5)

I got my grafted trees from Treesnmore, (Seedless variety on Osage orange rootstock)

here is some info from Just fruits and exotics, another wonderful nursery that sells Che. (they say it's not flood tolerant, but I planted osage orange in the wettest part of my lot, and it's thriving...so as long as you get eventual drainage, I think you can plant che/ grafted onto osage orange....my lot has standing water for days...but always drains eventually...and the water table is about 2.5-4ft down.)
http://www.justfruitsandexotics.com/JFE/JF%20Che.pdf

I'm planting more of these asap!  I needed something unique and easy to grow (cold hearty, and drought/flood tolerant)


How big are the ones from treesnmore? I'm looking for some instant gratification. The ones I have now are about a foot tall.



Ok. I might just wait until next season for just fruits. I think there's are 3-4 ft. Kind of mad I wasted money on the male tree now that I found out they aren't needed.

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Re: Che (mandarin melon berry) Cudrania tricuspidata
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2015, 12:42:03 PM »
U know I'm only kidding about the cat fight
I would get some from treesnmore theyre $30 (much cheaper than just fruits )
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Re: Che (mandarin melon berry) Cudrania tricuspidata
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2015, 01:48:18 PM »
U know I'm only kidding about the cat fight
I would get some from treesnmore theyre $30 (much cheaper than just fruits )

Could you pick one for me, please?  :)

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Re: Che (mandarin melon berry) Cudrania tricuspidata
« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2015, 01:41:58 PM »
After 4 years of waiting my tiny Che tree has fruit forming on it now. I hope they make it all the way to ripe. I'm just glad to see that they will fruit while bush sized. I don't really have room for large trees.

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Re: Che (mandarin melon berry) Cudrania tricuspidata
« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2015, 09:06:41 PM »
Cool! From seed? Grafted?
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Re: Che (mandarin melon berry) Cudrania tricuspidata
« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2015, 02:11:00 PM »
Grafted. Purchased from Edible Landscaping in Afton VA. Very nice looking small tree. No special care. No special pruning. The fruit that I have eaten in the past was nice but not the kind of flavor that is going to have people lined up to eat it. Some people flat out don't like it (could be the texture). But still, as a yard tree that looks nice and requires no special treatment to get fruit and fruit that wildlife pretty much ignores... I know I'm happy to own one.

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Re: Che (mandarin melon berry) Cudrania tricuspidata
« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2015, 11:57:12 PM »
Great to know. thanks!
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Re: Che (mandarin melon berry) Cudrania tricuspidata
« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2015, 05:32:06 PM »
Hi Bush2Beach, how can you tell the male and female plants apart?

Is it by leaf shape, growth habit etc?

I recently grafted a couple of scions on to a wild mulberry and they are pushing buds now. Not sure if they are compatible long term.

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Re: Che (mandarin melon berry) Cudrania tricuspidata
« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2015, 07:14:18 PM »
Hi Bush2Beach, how can you tell the male and female plants apart?

Is it by leaf shape, growth habit etc?

I recently grafted a couple of scions on to a wild mulberry and they are pushing buds now. Not sure if they are compatible long term.

Female tree's are larger and more robust than male tree's.

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Re: Che (mandarin melon berry) Cudrania tricuspidata
« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2015, 02:19:53 PM »
So is it confirmed female trees will hold fruit without a male present?  I know that the Edible Landscape one is suppose to be seedless (i.e. fruit without a male), but I had thought people weren't sure that a female Che in general would hold fruit or at least a decent amount without a male.  I have a seedling as well as a grafted female so trying to decide on if I should get a male.

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Re: Che (mandarin melon berry) Cudrania tricuspidata
« Reply #15 on: April 16, 2016, 05:32:20 PM »
after a year of sitting still...the grafted che (two of them, purchased from Treesnmore) started to bust loose with some growth...

they look really healthy and vigorous now that they've decided to start growing...I left the tree in the pot, and planted it directly into the ground.

I wonder if Treesnmore propagated any this year?


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Re: Che (mandarin melon berry) Maclura tricuspidata
« Reply #16 on: April 16, 2016, 09:05:03 PM »
Had anyone ever tried one of these?  I have been debating making the trip out to justfruitsandexotics to get one a few other trees.

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Re: Che (mandarin melon berry) Maclura tricuspidata
« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2016, 12:16:33 AM »
Had anyone ever tried one of these?  I have been debating making the trip out to justfruitsandexotics to get one a few other trees.
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I guess you're asking about the taste of che? I got to try them because some kind soul, i think it was Ed, mailed me some. I really liked the taste. To me they tasted like watermelon juice. I love watermelon so they were a big hit with me.
BTW, i think they need some chill? Is that right Ed? I never got them growing here (yet).
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Re: Che (mandarin melon berry) Maclura tricuspidata
« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2016, 09:52:59 AM »
I have one grafted tree and one not grafted.  ;D

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Re: Che (mandarin melon berry) Maclura tricuspidata
« Reply #19 on: April 19, 2016, 08:38:44 AM »
Had anyone ever tried one of these?  I have been debating making the trip out to justfruitsandexotics to get one a few other trees.
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I guess you're asking about the taste of che? I got to try them because some kind soul, i think it was Ed, mailed me some. I really liked the taste. To me they tasted like watermelon juice. I love watermelon so they were a big hit with me.
BTW, i think they need some chill? Is that right Ed? I never got them growing here (yet).

Yes, they do require some chill.  I dont think they will produce well (or at all?) in Southern Florida.
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Re: Che (mandarin melon berry) Maclura tricuspidata
« Reply #20 on: April 19, 2016, 09:54:40 PM »
I know folks are fruiting them in Central Florida and South Texas but most years both of those areas typically get some chill hours.

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Re: Che (mandarin melon berry) Maclura tricuspidata
« Reply #21 on: April 22, 2016, 08:18:32 PM »
They need chill, but do fruit in San Diego so probably low chill.  Up here I notice they leaf out after heat so maybe more complicated then just straight up chill hours?

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Re: Che (mandarin melon berry) Maclura tricuspidata
« Reply #22 on: April 22, 2016, 10:16:32 PM »
Martin county is south Florida and they fruit here in one year. I have some small trees and they are starting to fruit.  I  sold all the nice trees to Fruitscapes they will be there next week. What I have left needs to put out some new growth.  I will try to post picture tomorrow having trouble posting picture on this site
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Re: Che (mandarin melon berry) Maclura tricuspidata
« Reply #23 on: April 25, 2016, 08:07:50 AM »
Martin county is south Florida and they fruit here in one year. I have some small trees and they are starting to fruit.  I  sold all the nice trees to Fruitscapes they will be there next week. What I have left needs to put out some new growth.  I will try to post picture tomorrow having trouble posting picture on this site

While there is no official definition,  South Florida is generally recognized as Miami-Dade,  Broward and Palm Beach Counties. Martin County, part of the Treasure Coast, has for the most part different climatic conditions than Counties Soyth of there.  While Che will grow in the Southern areas, I say good luck fruiting it in the Southern areas.

Just cause Fruitscapes purchased them does not have any bearing on anything.  He sells tree to nurseries to the North of him (including Top Tropicals which everyone knows ships "their" "certified" trees all over the Country) plus once you get iff Pine Island, the climate also chsnges.
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« Reply #24 on: April 25, 2016, 10:55:48 AM »
do the trees at fruit & spice park fruit regularly? ever?
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« Reply #25 on: April 27, 2016, 08:51:29 AM »
I have one grafted tree and one not grafted.  ;D
In my grafted tree the flower buds start to grow...  ;D

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Re: Che (mandarin melon berry) Maclura tricuspidata
« Reply #26 on: May 12, 2016, 03:37:08 PM »
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i got fruits setting on one of my trees i got from you.

I want more!!!

do you have any?!?
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Re: Che (mandarin melon berry) Maclura tricuspidata
« Reply #27 on: May 27, 2016, 10:48:28 AM »
I love these trees but they do sucker like mad in my sandy soil all my trees two male,two female about maybe 15+ years old were all seedlings.Except one female that I bought because seedling trees all seemed male and won't set fruit! We love the fruit we freeze whole and use in smoothy seeds and all! ;) 8)I try and cut back trees 50% every year to keep them smaller and have good production of fruit!

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« Reply #28 on: May 30, 2016, 12:47:23 PM »
Treesnmore

i got fruits setting on one of my trees i got from you.

I want more!!!

do you have any?!?

Good luck. Mine has aborted every fruit for the last 2 years. I was planning to grab another tree from from Just Fruits but I missed their shipping window. I could trade you budwood if you are looking add another variety.  Have a male and female from hidden springs Nursery

Have you tried grafting Che to mulberry? There is a guy on another fruit forum that recently did it and it looks promising so far. I think Osage orange is compatible with mulberry so Che should work on mulberry stock with an Osage orange inter stem if the mulberry straight to Che doesn't end up working long term.
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Re: Che (mandarin melon berry) Maclura tricuspidata
« Reply #29 on: January 22, 2017, 11:39:19 AM »
Is  these  ache fruit tree? https://postimg.org/image/tty3twbxl/
I have trees that are graffted onto osage orange and have different leaves

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« Reply #30 on: January 22, 2017, 02:12:38 PM »
Is  these  ache fruit tree? https://postimg.org/image/tty3twbxl/
I have trees that are graffted onto osage orange and have different leaves
yes it is. it's like mine...  ;D

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« Reply #31 on: January 25, 2017, 08:42:30 AM »
Thank you Luisport, but why my other trees that are graffted on maclura pomifera have different leaves ( the variety is seedless) ?

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« Reply #32 on: January 25, 2017, 08:56:21 AM »
Thank you Luisport, but why my other trees that are graffted on maclura pomifera have different leaves ( the variety is seedless) ?
Well i don't know, but my tree is grafted, sedless fruit and the leaves are like those on pic. I have another one not grafted, with a lot of thorns, and a bushy habit.

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« Reply #33 on: January 25, 2017, 03:15:31 PM »
Here is the graffted che seedless and thornless https://postimg.org/image/kht18l8dj/ and how you can see the leaves are different.

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« Reply #34 on: January 25, 2017, 05:41:17 PM »
Here is the graffted che seedless and thornless https://postimg.org/image/kht18l8dj/ and how you can see the leaves are different.
Don't worry, it's the same thing. There are a lot of variation on che leaves.  :)

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« Reply #35 on: January 26, 2017, 09:06:38 AM »
So does Mandarin Melonberry do well in Zone 10?
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« Reply #36 on: January 26, 2017, 12:11:58 PM »
So does Mandarin Melonberry do well in Zone 10?
I think she neads some degree of cold...  I think it's like mulberry tree.

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« Reply #37 on: January 26, 2017, 01:18:09 PM »
So does Mandarin Melonberry do well in Zone 10?
I think she neads some degree of cold...  I think it's like mulberry tree.

Mulberry's fruit well here.
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« Reply #38 on: February 20, 2017, 08:41:39 PM »
Where are the trees in F&S, I don't recall seeing them but I g et they could be an amorphous blob of trees by the other mulberries without a label? How do your trees look these days Flyingfox?

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Re: Che (mandarin melon berry) Maclura tricuspidata
« Reply #39 on: April 10, 2017, 09:52:32 AM »
Anyone have Che scions they'd be willing to sell or trade?

I have a couple osage orange trees on my property and thought it'd be fun to try to graft some Che onto them.
Jus crazy bout dem pawpaws!

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Re: Che (mandarin melon berry) Maclura tricuspidata
« Reply #40 on: April 11, 2017, 10:54:40 AM »
Hello, i want to ask what are going with my cudrania tricuspidata trees? The trees I planted last spring are still the same without any new growth and the top of the branches are dry? , but the plants I planted a few mounths ago , are starting to produce new growth and I don t know why? The minimal temperature I have this winter was around -8 C.

 

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