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Re: Sale: anona scions
« Reply #200 on: March 23, 2017, 11:53:02 PM »
Frank,

couple questions...generally speaking, how long before annona graft unions heal after pushing, to the point where i can remove the tape and parafilm?

Next question, looks like a little water from the rain made it under the parafilm from the holes caused by the buds pushing, and i see a little moisture collecting near the union..anything to worry about? rot/fungus etc?
as Mark said you don't have to worry about removing the parafilm it will disintegrate on its own
you have nothing to worry about those buds....let them push as hard as they can

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Re: Sale: anona scions
« Reply #201 on: March 24, 2017, 12:00:45 AM »
I pass by Cangrejo's old property today. His son has a lot of atemoyas left on the tree














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Re: Sale: anona scions
« Reply #202 on: March 24, 2017, 12:28:50 AM »
How old are they, Prof? They are tall

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Re: Sale: anona scions
« Reply #203 on: March 24, 2017, 10:08:55 AM »
Two trees 20-25 years

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Re: Sale: anona scions
« Reply #204 on: March 24, 2017, 04:41:31 PM »
Frank,

couple questions...generally speaking, how long before annona graft unions heal after pushing, to the point where i can remove the tape and parafilm?

Next question, looks like a little water from the rain made it under the parafilm from the holes caused by the buds pushing, and i see a little moisture collecting near the union..anything to worry about? rot/fungus etc?
as Mark said you don't have to worry about removing the parafilm it will disintegrate on its own
you have nothing to worry about those buds....let them push as hard as they can

Thanks but I mean the grafting tape at the union

when should that be removed? typically how long does it take to heal?
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Re: Sale: anona scions
« Reply #205 on: March 24, 2017, 05:00:22 PM »
I remove the tape before it girdles the graft. Usually in a year but you should do it much sooner if your graft is growing really well. It's hard to give an exact time like when it grows more than 1.5ft It depends on how strong it's growing, which direction, and whether it's likely to get broken by birds, squirrels, rats if you took off the tape.

I'd say definitely not before 1-3 months.

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Re: Sale: anona scions
« Reply #206 on: March 24, 2017, 05:10:46 PM »
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Are you talking about green nursery tape? If that's what you are referring to a few weeks after it takes

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Re: Sale: anona scions
« Reply #207 on: March 24, 2017, 05:18:09 PM »
Never remove the buddy/paradigm tape. It will expand as union expands.

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« Reply #208 on: March 24, 2017, 05:31:24 PM »
ah got it, thanks!
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Re: Sale: anona scions
« Reply #209 on: March 25, 2017, 10:46:55 PM »
ah got it, thanks!

Behl taught me a neat trick. fold your buddy tape in half and use like nursery tape to your graft instead of nursery tape

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« Reply #210 on: March 26, 2017, 11:05:59 AM »
ah got it, thanks!

Behl taught me a neat trick. fold your buddy tape in half and use like nursery tape to your graft instead of nursery tape

Or twist it into a rope and use it like you would a rubber band. 

Amazing atemoyas!

I use buddy tape to wrap the scion, green "Walmart special" vinyl tape to really cinch down on grafts like veneer.  If done right the union will take place within 6 weeks.  I carefully cut off the green tape after I feel comfortable about the graft leaving the parafilm or buddy tape to fall off on its own.   Here's one of the first veneer grafts I did - Reed on a Florida pit, about a 2-3" contact.  Grows like a beast and produces well!



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Re: Sale: anona scions
« Reply #211 on: March 26, 2017, 04:23:24 PM »
ah got it, thanks!

Behl taught me a neat trick. fold your buddy tape in half and use like nursery tape to your graft instead of nursery tape

Or twist it into a rope and use it like you would a rubber band. 

Amazing atemoyas!

I use buddy tape to wrap the scion, green "Walmart special" vinyl tape to really cinch down on grafts like veneer.  If done right the union will take place within 6 weeks.  I carefully cut off the green tape after I feel comfortable about the graft leaving the parafilm or buddy tape to fall off on its own.   Here's one of the first veneer grafts I did - Reed on a Florida pit, about a 2-3" contact.  Grows like a beast and produces well!



that's more wasteful and weaker. I use perforated buddy tape fold it half and wrap the union it fuses perfectly.

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Re: Sale: anona scions
« Reply #212 on: March 27, 2017, 09:33:52 AM »
that's more wasteful and weaker. I use perforated buddy tape fold it half and wrap the union it fuses perfectly.

It's very strong, reason why I use it cause it doesn't stretch near as much as buddy tape.  I buy it by the 300' roll for use in the vineyard, about $6.00 a roll.  When a cordon comes loose I make one wrap with the Walmart tape.  Holds for years.  Know a lady that does 100's of grafts a year, uses rubber bands.



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Re: Sale: anona scions
« Reply #213 on: March 28, 2017, 10:13:18 AM »
HA and Cuban Red custard apples looking like 100% success.

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Re: Sale: anona scions
« Reply #214 on: March 28, 2017, 11:15:13 AM »
Mark we are talking about different tapes.


Dom, we had great success here.
La Habra prolific and la hoochy oro are big sucess😀
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Re: Sale: anona scions
« Reply #215 on: March 28, 2017, 12:13:51 PM »
Good job on the grafts everyone.

Looks like I 3 out of 10 Cuban fiberless soursop pushing on cherimoya rootstock. Not sure if this is the real deal or if its reserved energy.

If it continues to grow for the next couple of weeks, I will start posting pics.

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Re: Sale: anona scions
« Reply #216 on: March 29, 2017, 08:41:22 AM »
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Re: Sale: anona scions
« Reply #217 on: March 29, 2017, 09:00:21 AM »
Sale is over come back in late July early August.

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Re: Sale: anona scions
« Reply #218 on: March 31, 2017, 08:31:21 AM »
Mark we are talking about different tapes.
Dom, we had great success here.
La Habra prolific and la hoochy oro are big sucess😀

OK

One of your customers in Beaumont has seen all of your scions pushing including La Habra.  Of course she is a master grafter must do 20 a month but it started with great wood.  Ed still hasn't seen anything pushing in the Pierce, Selma, El Bumpo, Fino or Campas.  Am holding my breath!

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Re: Sale: anona scions
« Reply #219 on: March 31, 2017, 09:29:26 AM »
Question ( again it's my first time grafting annonas)...

so looks like 9/10 took...i used mainly soursop rootstock, and for a couple of them (jumbo AP and randhir on soursop), i left a few leaves and small branches on the soursop rootstock.

Can I keep those branches below the graft and let them grow out?
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Re: Sale: anona scions
« Reply #220 on: March 31, 2017, 10:00:16 AM »
Question ( again it's my first time grafting annonas)...

so looks like 9/10 took...i used mainly soursop rootstock, and for a couple of them (jumbo AP and randhir on soursop), i left a few leaves and small branches on the soursop rootstock.

Can I keep those branches below the graft and let them grow out?
Jani
Any growth below the graft you pinch off. I'm amaze you had such a high success rate on soursop rootstock......

Mark
Cherimoyas are a month behind other anonas here so they are just starting to drop their leafs.....you should see buds anytime

Here is another introduction
Sisal Dorado
Creamy banana taste



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Re: Sale: anona scions
« Reply #221 on: March 31, 2017, 11:50:36 AM »
Question ( again it's my first time grafting annonas)...

so looks like 9/10 took...i used mainly soursop rootstock, and for a couple of them (jumbo AP and randhir on soursop), i left a few leaves and small branches on the soursop rootstock.

Can I keep those branches below the graft and let them grow out?
Jani
Any growth below the graft you pinch off. I'm amaze you had such a high success rate on soursop rootstock......

Mark
Cherimoyas are a month behind other anonas here so they are just starting to drop their leafs.....you should see buds anytime

Here is another introduction
Sisal Dorado
Creamy banana taste




Whats that Frank a reticulata?

whatever it is, sign me up for the summer...
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Re: Sale: anona scions
« Reply #222 on: March 31, 2017, 12:49:16 PM »
I may sell seeds and wood in May.....we will see how it goes

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Re: Sale: anona scions
« Reply #223 on: April 12, 2017, 08:13:06 PM »
Anona Rosada


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Re: Sale: anona scions
« Reply #224 on: April 14, 2017, 04:01:25 PM »
Hi, Josh here, I'm new to this forum. Where in Southern California can I find an anona rosada tree from El Salvador? The fruit has pink flesh. My plant was recently destroyed and I've been looking all over Southern California.

 

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