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AndrewAZ

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Bloomsweet
« on: February 22, 2017, 11:51:35 PM »
When I lived in Hampton, VA, zone 8a, I got the bug for cold hardy citrus.  With the helping of Gaylord in VA Beach, I was amassing a very nice colection.  I had changsha mandarine and a limequat in the ground.  I had keraji madarin, satsuma mandarin, bloomsweet, clem yuzu, Sanbokan lemon, ichang lemons in pots and was scoping for places to plant them in my yard.  If I could have found kishu mandarin in VA, I would have been a very happy camper.
Well, life did a turn around and after 7 years in VA, I left for AZ in 2012.  I had to leave all my citrust behind and start a new.  I was so invested in this point in cold hardy citrus, that I wanted to regrow all my favorite's out.  To my great sadness , I quickly found out only kishu mandarin and owari satsuma mandarin could be purchased in AZ.
So, over the past 5 years, I started a one man campaign to beg wherever I could to get or pay for the remaining trees through seeds.
One note is that I decided to leave out limequat and ichang lemon.
Well, I am happy to report that I am almost whole again.  With my clem yuzu and keraji recently sprouting, and from the past couple years, I know have the complete list.. ..except for bloomsweet.

So that leads me to a question, should I just up on bloomsweet?  Unlike all the other citrus I listed, I have never actually tried a bloomsweet.  Was growing it mostly for cold hardiness.
I have heard mixed reviews on the flavor of bloomsweet, with some saying it is insipid.  Also, I have seen some interesting grapefruit seeds on ebay for some sweet grapefruit and thought maybe I should just give them a try.
Any recommendations?

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Re: Bloomsweet
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2017, 10:44:26 AM »
Here is what the booklet "Hardy Citrus For The Southeast" says about Bloomsweet grapefruit (know as Kinkoji in Japan).

Bloomsweet resembles a sour orange in its upright growth habit, but the large, yellow fruit looks just like a grapefruit, though with a thinner peel. The brightly colored fruit is easy to peel, much like a mandarin.  Inside the fruit is coarser and drier than grapefruit, but sweeter and with no bitterness.  It's probably a hybrid of the pummelo with something (or somethings) else.  Bloomsweet appears to be fully hardy to Zone 8a, enduring 14 F in Montezuma, Georgia with negligible leaf damage. 
Flavor: Sweet grapefruit, no off flavors, very good quality.
Uses: Dessert 

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Re: Bloomsweet
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2017, 12:53:44 PM »
Yes, Kinkoji (Bloomsweet) is a hybrid of pomelo with tangor Kunenbo-A ( sweet orange - Kishu mandarin cross).

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article/file?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0166969&type=printable
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Re: Bloomsweet
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2017, 10:53:59 PM »
Ok, maybe what I should be asking is, is it worth the struggle to find seeds for this apparently rare variety of a sweet grapefruit, or, are there other, more easily attainable sweet grapefruit hybrids out there that I should maybe consider.  If bloomsweet is the best of the bunch, then I will just keep looking.

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Re: Bloomsweet
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2017, 12:01:25 AM »
Bloomsweet tastes just like any other white grapefruit. There are OK if
you like white grapefruit. What grapefruit do you like, pink, red or white?
If you like white grapefruit grow marsh as it has almost no seeds and
bloomsweet has abundant seeds. I grew duncan and had a bloomsweet
branch. My duncan near Houston,TX never got the great flavor that
Florida duncans do. Myself I prefer the orange colored golden grapefruit
available in the Houston,TX area. However golden seeds make a white grapefruit.
My personal favorite is the Florida pink. Reds are nice if you wait long enough
for them to get sweet like March. IMHO clem yuzu and keraji are not worth growing
as they aren't first quality in flavor or size. I've tasted all the "cold hardy" citrus and
although they may be cold hardy they aren't great tasting.

« Last Edit: February 25, 2017, 12:04:55 AM by mrtexas »

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Re: Bloomsweet
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2017, 07:27:08 AM »
Have you tried Oro Blanco?  They are easy to find here in AZ

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Re: Bloomsweet
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2017, 12:16:09 AM »
I may just hold off for a while and try some different grapefruit carieties.  I had oro blanco once and it wasn't my favorite.  Might try some different pummelo's, too.
I have eaten a fair amount of keraji and I really like them.  I kind of agree on the clem yuzu.  Pretty sour.

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Re: Bloomsweet
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2017, 09:33:01 PM »
I tasted bloomsweet at one of the southeast citrus forums a few years ago, and it was sweet like an orange. I wouldn't even consider it a grapefruit. I just had to believe the seasoned growers at the dinner that it was a grapefruit. I tried to grow a bloomsweet on its own roots but my heat lamps kept busting that winter and it froze to death during one of the polar vortexes. If I lived somewhere warmer, I'd get a grafted one and grow it.

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Re: Bloomsweet
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2017, 09:34:57 PM »
Let me look for some bloomsweet seeds this weekend. I had a 22 deg.freeze and all my bloomsweet fruit froze and dropped to the ground. There was a ton of fruit on the ground a couple of weeks ago, I bet I can find a few seeds.

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Re: Bloomsweet
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2017, 12:24:32 AM »
That would really make my day!!!

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Re: Bloomsweet
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2017, 06:03:27 AM »
I've always wanted to try growing bloomsweets..

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Re: Bloomsweet
« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2017, 06:58:43 PM »






AndrewAZ-found you some seeds!!!

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Re: Bloomsweet
« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2017, 04:43:10 AM »
Selkirk,
Fruits of your Bloomsweet look more  like mine:



http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=18992.25

Do you have many seeds inside?
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Re: Bloomsweet
« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2017, 07:51:24 PM »
Ilya-I looked at your post on your bloomsweet. Yours seems to be different from mine and other bloomsweet I have handled. Most of mine have a somewhat of a "teardrop" shape to them, color wise mine are very light colored, and mine have lots of seeds.

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Re: Bloomsweet
« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2017, 09:48:48 AM »
Yeah as I said in the other post, I do not believe Ilya11's tree to be bloomsweet. The fruit are round not teardrop shaped and have orange colored flesh.

They are a dead ringer for a cocktail grapefuit (mandelo)  except they seem to be lacking seeds.

Not saying they are not a tasty fruit, I just don't believe these are true bloomsweet grapefruit.

 

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