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Bark Grafting Mango
« on: April 07, 2017, 08:40:23 PM »
Anyone have any success bark grafting mangos? I was considering cutting back one of my larger trees and grafting into the stump directly but I'm not sure of the best method. I tried it once before but was unsuccessful.

Here is a video with one method that I found:

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Re: Bark Grafting Mango
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2017, 10:34:33 PM »
I've never tried the technique in the video of the low bark graft but I have had success bark grafting like in this video https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Uf0bc0GlXj0

I call it success because the scion healed and pushed but I was sick and didn't check on the graft for a long time. Last time I checked, there were tons of suckers growing around the cut trunk and they were definitely pulling energy from the grafted scion. I was going to remove all the shoots but decided instead to thin some out so I can graft them in the future.

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Re: Bark Grafting Mango
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2017, 11:51:24 PM »
Here is a bark graft done the same way as the video Simon posted. This was done last year. This works well when the bark slips easily. If the cambial cells are harden and sticks to the bark as you peel the bark back, the graft will usually fail. the cambium layer is now between the semi harden cambium layer and the bark. when this happens, I will do whip grafts.






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Re: Bark Grafting Mango
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2017, 12:31:38 AM »
I've done bark graft on my stone fruits and a 6 year old ataulfo rootstock at a high success rate. I believe Gary from Palm Springs did many bark grafts on his mature Manila tree.

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Re: Bark Grafting Mango
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2017, 08:10:16 AM »
I helped a local grower do some bark grafting on a few older nonproductive trees he had already stumped. Neither of us had done it before but I'm pretty sure he said he got most of them to take. We basically did it just like the video in the OP, except we used grafting wax to seal things up instead of mud. Once mango season starts up again I'll get some pictures.
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Re: Bark Grafting Mango
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2017, 09:34:49 AM »
I have followed that video and successfully done 2 bark grafts













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Re: Bark Grafting Mango
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2017, 10:09:07 AM »
I cut back a few branches on my Neelam and did some veneers and bark grafts of Honey Kiss. Looks like a few are pushing.

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Re: Bark Grafting Mango
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2017, 06:38:33 PM »
Any one tried it on large avocado trees?   Which clay would one buy?
« Last Edit: April 09, 2017, 11:27:27 AM by CTMIAMI »
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Re: Bark Grafting Mango
« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2017, 11:03:32 PM »
In ancient times, clay was mixed with cow manure to wrap cut areas of grafts of grape.  Clay alone would crack.
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Re: Bark Grafting Mango
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2017, 10:27:50 AM »
I have done a lot of bark grafting, a hybrid of veneer and bark my own method right to the trunk with great success, something that is similar to side grafting shown on the later part of the video. I learned this from a pro who does Avacado grafting.
« Last Edit: April 10, 2017, 10:32:28 AM by behlgarden »

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Re: Bark Grafting Mango
« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2017, 10:56:49 AM »
Bark MUST slip.  Waiting on a few to push.  Pineapple Express on Mallika.  Or do my fave, a T-bud graft.



....and recent citrus grafts for a cocktail tree on this very productive Key lime - Hamlin orange, Persian lime and Variegated Pink Eureka lemon grafts.



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Re: Bark Grafting Mango
« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2017, 02:13:27 PM »
Tried it on Avocados. If it works it would solve a lot of issues.  Still looking for a clay that would do the job.
Instead of rope I used plastic ties that I can tighten with a tool I have



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Re: Bark Grafting Mango
« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2017, 11:46:50 PM »
Tried it on Avocados. If it works it would solve a lot of issues.  Still looking for a clay that would do the job.
Instead of rope I used plastic ties that I can tighten with a tool I have




Instead of a clay, why not try soft paraffin wax?

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Re: Bark Grafting Mango
« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2017, 12:21:17 AM »
Here is a bark graft done the same way as the video Simon posted. This was done last year. This works well when the bark slips easily. If the cambial cells are harden and sticks to the bark as you peel the bark back, the graft will usually fail. the cambium layer is now between the semi harden cambium layer and the bark. when this happens, I will do whip grafts.






wow that was great

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Re: Bark Grafting Mango
« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2017, 08:00:10 PM »
Tried it on Avocados. If it works it would solve a lot of issues.  Still looking for a clay that would do the job.
Instead of rope I used plastic ties that I can tighten with a tool I have




Instead of a clay, why not try soft paraffin wax?

Just curious about the clay.
I make my own rosin with bees wax and cinnamon  paste to fill the large holes. Then I make a painttable solution with  water and Treekote and paint the area twice.
Will see......
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Re: Bark Grafting Mango
« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2017, 08:34:33 PM »
Can you also use toilet bowl wax or Henry 102 (for roof leak repairs) to fill the holes and cracks?
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Re: Bark Grafting Mango
« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2017, 09:37:20 PM »
I tried grafting wax on several species of Annonas in the late 1980's--- killed them.

I tried dipping Annona graftwoods in very warm liquid parrafin.  Sometimes that worked O.K., but the take rate was low--- seemed to be acceptable only near bud-break time in the Spring.

My mention of clay, which I have never tried, was just along the lines of "There is more than one way to skin a cat!"
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Re: Bark Grafting Mango
« Reply #17 on: April 26, 2017, 10:12:14 AM »
Can you also use toilet bowl wax or Henry 102 (for roof leak repairs) to fill the holes and cracks?

There are a lot of different Henry products. This is the description of 102:
http://us.henry.com/roofing/adhesives-and-primers/102-aquaprime-primer

Is this the product?
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Re: Bark Grafting Mango
« Reply #18 on: May 02, 2017, 05:22:35 PM »
I just visited Leo Manuel to check up on, and tag, some of the grafts I put on his trees last year. Last year, he asked me to cut down a medium sized mango tree that produced inferior fruit and top work( more like bottom work) it with his special variety called Leo Z. It was spur of the moment and I didn't have much time so I did a quick and somewhat sloppy bark graft but it took.

It was very sloppy, I should have done a much longer side veneer type bark graft to give more cambium contact but it was already done. Because the graft was kinda ugly, we decided to let some of the water Sprouts continue to grow in case my bark graft failed. Now the graft is pushing a nice new growth flush so we will be removing all the side growth to focus the energy on the grafted scion. I didn't use any wax or putty, I just wrapped the open trunk with lots of parafilm.

The bark looks wet and nasty because I just sprayed some orchard spray on it.





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