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KEITT Mango
« on: December 15, 2017, 04:29:48 AM »
Well after 4 and a half year i got to know that my grafted mango tree is NOT the typical philippines mang oi was expecting but a totaly DIFFERENT Keitt Mango !!!

This is what i expected
https://www.tagaloglang.com/mangoes-of-the-philippines/

This is what i should get
http://tropicalfruitnursery.com/mango/keitt-mango.shtml

It's my fault since the little tree was bought by my wife and i never investigated until its "brother" another mango of the same bunch in my friend's garden bore unexpectedly huge and green fruits.
I suspected that something was wrong because of the strange growing habit of my tree very open with spreading, leaning slender branches giving it a quite ruffled appearance.

Has anyone experience with this KEITT variety?
Is it a KEEP or TRASH??
I'm puzzled  :-\

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Re: KEITT Mango
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2017, 06:09:27 AM »
Definitely a keeper..late season good mango
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Re: KEITT Mango
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2017, 06:19:16 AM »
thanks for your review!  Is it a constant and reliable bearer?
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Re: KEITT Mango
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2017, 08:02:38 AM »
I've got 2 trees that have been good, I'm very happy to have them..I think your location is going to determine a lot.
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Re: KEITT Mango
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2017, 08:47:35 AM »
I topped worked one of my trees to Keitt do to its being the latest mango you can get in Florida and its really productive.
I'd keep it.

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Re: KEITT Mango
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2017, 09:42:00 PM »
Thank you everybody!  :)
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Re: KEITT Mango
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2017, 02:05:37 AM »
Keitt is a good mango,  very productive, relatively not much problem with  disease,  fruit can often get up to 2lbs.

What you can expect,    the fruit are not that colorful when ripe,   the tree can be "lanky" or the branches kind of hang all over the place. small trees with fruit will need to have support sticks holding the fruit off the ground.     one of the reasons its used commercially is, that it can be picked mature green,  and will survive shipping up to 3 weeks.   they handle well. 

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Re: KEITT Mango
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2017, 04:30:24 AM »
Thanks for the good info William.
Actually mine is also lanky especially first couple of years i was thinking that something is wrong with nutrition,  i wondered why it looked like that.
Now it got more balanced shape but its canopy always looking a bit dishevelled  :D
I hope it will be productive here in my place. Until now it's  quite 5 years old and never flowered yet  :-\
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Re: KEITT Mango
« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2017, 12:22:17 AM »
my local Whole Food carried Keitt up til around Thanksgiving, they were advertised as Calif organic Keitt

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Re: KEITT Mango
« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2017, 04:30:18 AM »
where they tasty?
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Re: KEITT Mango
« Reply #10 on: December 19, 2017, 08:42:53 AM »
Thanks for the good info William.
Actually mine is also lanky especially first couple of years i was thinking that something is wrong with nutrition,  i wondered why it looked like that.
Now it got more balanced shape but its canopy always looking a bit dishevelled  :D
I hope it will be productive here in my place. Until now it's  quite 5 years old and never flowered yet  :-\

The Keitt in my yard was lanky as well and had to be propped up by stakes. After the second year, I cut it down to about 3 feet and since then, the tree looks much better. It has branched out and is also productive. I have HimSagar topworked to one part of the tree.  That part is currently pushing flowers.

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Re: KEITT Mango
« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2017, 12:45:37 PM »
I have a Keitt myself and since you are already talking about this variety I'd like to know how it works as intergrafting between the rootstock and a new cv. Does Keitt pass its growing habit to the cv grafted on it?

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Re: KEITT Mango
« Reply #12 on: December 19, 2017, 08:20:40 PM »
Five years without flowering sounds like a seedling, not a grafted tree, and therefore not a 'Keitt'.

OR PERHAPS, you are in a too lowland-tropical area for this sub-tropical variety to flower.
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Re: KEITT Mango
« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2017, 08:29:50 PM »
Har I'm SURE 100% that it's grafted.
I still remember when my wife bought it it was still very visible the cleft graft at about 1ft from the soil. Actually until now you can still see a slight difference in bark grain between the lower lower seedling and the upper scion.
The trunk diameter is about 15cm (6in) and tree looks healthy.
I'll take some pictures next days.
I'm at just a few meter above seal level actualle see is just 600m far from me.
By the way, the little tree was bought together with another one "sibling" wich was planted in a different area (another island).
The tree flowered and fruited for the first time a few months ago.
I hope mine can manage to flower here,  i don't want to keep a tree just for shadow!  :)
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Re: KEITT Mango
« Reply #14 on: December 19, 2017, 09:13:57 PM »
In the 1980's around a dozen varieties of mango were taken from Florida to Manaus, state of Amazonas, Brazil.  They grew huge, but none ever flowered.

A seed of Nam Doc Mai was taken there over a dozen years ago, and that tree is fruiting every year, just as several local varieties there do.

So I believe that different land races and varieties have very different chill hour needs, with the more tropical ones responding with flowers after nights in the 68-70-degrees Fahrenheit, which was as cold as it ever got during the ten years I lived near Manaus.

Many India-type varieties probably respond best to upper-50's F.
Har

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Re: KEITT Mango
« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2017, 06:57:48 AM »
Here if we're lucky we can get around 71-73 °F during the coldest nights. And it happens exctlly between the second half of december and the end of january.
Local farmers manage to get their mangoes flower even during the rainy hot season  spraying them with a solution of potassium nitrate.
But i want my mango to flower spontaneously, no need for chemicals!
I'll be patient another more season then i'll decide what to do!

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Re: KEITT Mango
« Reply #16 on: December 29, 2017, 10:59:15 PM »
This is the Keitt Mango just pictured in my garden.
It looks a bit RUFFLED but all in all healthy.
I've a little problem with some leaves but i'll make a new post about it




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Re: KEITT Mango UPDATE!
« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2018, 08:49:56 PM »
January 25 2018 update:
My keitt mango is flowering for the first time!
There are only 6 flower panicles, some are very small i hope they will pollinate so that i can get at least a couple of fruits.
I'm happy because until now i was not sure it could flower here.
Is there anything i can do to improve pollination or not?
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Re: KEITT Mango
« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2018, 08:57:44 PM »
nice looking tree.

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Re: KEITT Mango
« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2018, 10:20:18 PM »
Here if we're lucky we can get around 71-73 °F during the coldest nights. And it happens exctlly between the second half of december and the end of january.
Local farmers manage to get their mangoes flower even during the rainy hot season  spraying them with a solution of potassium nitrate.
But i want my mango to flower spontaneously, no need for chemicals!
I'll be patient another more season then i'll decide what to do!
What mango varieties do will in the Philippines with the humid and rainy weather?  I have had problems with anthracnose and want to try varieties that are anthracnose resistant.
I am an American from California with a small farm in Southern Brazil. 
Sou americano na Califórnia e tenho um sítio em Brusque, SC, Brasil.

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Re: KEITT Mango
« Reply #20 on: January 26, 2018, 01:19:04 AM »
When you get tired of a tree not flowering, the best thing to do is threaten it. Instant flowers! ;D

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Re: KEITT Mango
« Reply #21 on: January 26, 2018, 05:50:42 AM »
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Re: KEITT Mango
« Reply #22 on: January 26, 2018, 08:21:04 AM »
Here if we're lucky we can get around 71-73 °F during the coldest nights. And it happens exctlly between the second half of december and the end of january.
Local farmers manage to get their mangoes flower even during the rainy hot season  spraying them with a solution of potassium nitrate.
But i want my mango to flower spontaneously, no need for chemicals!
I'll be patient another more season then i'll decide what to do!
What mango varieties do will in the Philippines with the humid and rainy weather?  I have had problems with anthracnose and want to try varieties that are anthracnose resistant.


Here most common varieties are "CARABAO" and "MANILA" both quite resistant (but obviously not immune) to anthracnose.
As i know also the Nam Doc Mai thai variety is resistant.
Have a look at these documents:

https://www.houzz.com/discussions/2177928/truly-anthracnose-resistant-mango

https://www.ctahr.hawaii.edu/oc/freepubs/pdf/pd-48.pdf


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Re: KEITT Mango
« Reply #23 on: January 26, 2018, 08:23:23 AM »
When you get tired of a tree not flowering, the best thing to do is threaten it. Instant flowers! ;D

HOLY TRUTH  ;D
It happened to me several times, actually i "talk" to my trees not just to threaten them (don't tell my wife or she will have me admitted to the closest mental hospital )  ;)
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Re: KEITT Mango
« Reply #24 on: January 26, 2018, 12:52:03 PM »
There are different species and strains of anthracnose, and differences in toughness of fungal diseases to fungicides--- and this can change as fungi can develop resistance.   Lately, we have been hearing rumors of new, "more virulent strains" of anthracnose in south Florida.   These are hitting even old-time dependable varieties, such as 'Kent' and 'Keitt.'
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