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Trip to Davao - Pomelo, Durian, Marang, Mangosteen.....
« on: December 23, 2017, 08:22:25 AM »
I am just back fro ma trip to Davao Mindanao.
Davao is considered the fruit capital of the Philippines and worlwide known for red sweet  pomelo, durian and other fruits.
Just sharing my wonderful experience  :)

Durian and Marang seem to grow everywhere  from the simple gardens to the wild forest.
Thy evidently like the fertile loamy deep soil and the copious evenly ditributed rainfall.
Here some wind marang teees, they can really get wnormous mst of them with an upright growing habit:
now it's NOT marang season nevertheless, some trees are bearing small fruits


 






Here a marang and a durian are growing wild close to each other





Mangosteen is uncomon in the wild but there are some very nice plantations in the higher hills (cooler, heavier yearly rainfall)
Trees look so green and healthy!
All these are seedlings of about 10 years old. Notice the bushy pyramidal growing habit.
According to the owner seedlings are preferred because grafted trees bear a couple of years earlier (6 years instead of 8) but their production declines faster during time and trees are more subjects to die,





Here a detail of the leaves so green, glossy and gorgeous





Some durian trees are also bearing small fruits now.
As i said no it's NOT  season for marang/durian/mangosteen.
Best time is august/september






Here some pictures of the several fruit markets.
Pomelos are SOOOOOOOO amazingly sweet.
Marang so creamy and delicious.





I couldn't resist to temptation and i devoured a whole marang right at the market ;D






Durian .....well....the king of fruits has a category itself!
There are several varieties available.
This one is locally called ARANCILLO. Fruit are small with a yellow pulp.
Smell is very very light.  taste. is super good...impossible to describe, i would say ADDICTIVE!







This is one of my favourite variety locally called  PUYAT.
Fruits can vary in size flesh is thick, orange color.
Seeds are small, flat, i doubt they can be viable. being so flat the amount of edible flesh is really great.
Very little if any smell (pleasant NOT stinky!) super creamy texture, exceedingly sweet with so complex taste and many overtones similar i'd say to a great whisky cream.
I could eat them non-stop  :)












NOTE: for anybody asking....... I didn't bring any seeds home!
Now is NOT season and i want only fresh seeds from the best varieties harvested  during the top of season.
Im planning another trip in august 2018  :)
Lorenzo

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Re: Trip to Davao - Pomelo, Durian, Marang, Mangosteen.....
« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2017, 10:23:48 AM »
Awesome Lory!  You're a brave soul. I have been to the Philippines a thousand times, but I always steer clear of Mindanao or Davao.

Anyway, the fruits look delicioso. My favorite fruit is the singuelas (Harpephyllum Caffrum). Be safe.

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Re: Trip to Davao - Pomelo, Durian, Marang, Mangosteen.....
« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2017, 03:02:09 PM »
What is the cultivar of "red sweet pomelo", and can it be obtained at CCPP?
I am an American from California with a small farm in Southern Brazil. 
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Re: Trip to Davao - Pomelo, Durian, Marang, Mangosteen.....
« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2017, 03:42:35 PM »
amazing, thanks! I would like to tast a durian one day, but my climate is 9a/9b ...
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Re: Trip to Davao - Pomelo, Durian, Marang, Mangosteen.....
« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2017, 09:44:13 PM »
Smell of arancillo should be not be “very light”. Arancillo is the only really bitter variety in Davao, and the smell should carry through. Puyat most common grown variety in Davao, I don’t care for it but the locals don’t mind it as long as it’s sweet and creamy, their standards for durian are not as high as Malaysians. Why you eat Marang with plastic gloves when you can peel the skin and eat it like a popsicle, no need to use plastic...

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Re: Trip to Davao - Pomelo, Durian, Marang, Mangosteen.....
« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2017, 05:55:04 AM »
@Mugenia: Davao is a safe place, i think there are thousands of cities around the world much more dangerous. That said, my brother in law is a sodier and he always accompanied us during our journey to mountainous areas.
Anyway I never felt unsafe there and people are extremely friendly. You really like siniguelas?  ;D Here it's considered a fruit for kids, no commercial value, pinoys love to eat them unripe and crunchy with salt and vinegar (me i prefr them ripe and soft)

@huertasurbanas: 9b is way too cold for a durian but if one day you will be my guest here I'll be pleased to offer you some good durian :-)

@9b in Brasil: mostly pomelos are MAGALLANES variety.

@ ben mango: variability among the same variety is quite big, consider that there are thousands of trees which are just seedlings so they are named with a high level of approximation. All arancillo i tasted had a nice smell nothing STINKY like it's often described. It also depends on the personal sensitivity, some people consider even marang or jackfruit stinky as for me their smell is pleasant.... About Puyat same consideration about variability. Even the shape and size of fruits within the same variety had a wide variation. being completely OUT of season also played a role. Those fruits were probably the "left over" of the just ended season  I was given plastic gloves to eat marang but when i'm at home i usually peel it completely and i bite straight the arils like a dog with its bone :-)
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Re: Trip to Davao - Pomelo, Durian, Marang, Mangosteen.....
« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2017, 01:05:47 PM »
Very nice pictures Lory! 😄 I really enjoyed them thanks for sharing! As far as Marang, I know there are varieties with green or brown skin, do you notice any difference in flavor regardless the skin color from each other?
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Re: Trip to Davao - Pomelo, Durian, Marang, Mangosteen.....
« Reply #7 on: December 24, 2017, 01:12:23 PM »

“Consider there are thousands of trees which are just seedlings”

This simply isn’t true. Arancillo and Puyat were seeedlings at one point but when selected and grafted they are all clones of each other. Variability only comes in with how/where they are grown.

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Re: Trip to Davao - Pomelo, Durian, Marang, Mangosteen.....
« Reply #8 on: December 24, 2017, 07:20:41 PM »

“Consider there are thousands of trees which are just seedlings”

This simply isn’t true. Arancillo and Puyat were seeedlings at one point but when selected and grafted they are all clones of each other. Variability only comes in with how/where they are grown.
I believe he wanted to say that when you are in some area, any area there's people who grow seedlings of any name  variety and when the tree grows they keep calling them by the original fruit name, this specially applies when you are buying fruits from a roadside stand, there's gonna be some variations.... To make sure 100% of clones you have to go to a reputable nursery and grow your own....
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Re: Trip to Davao - Pomelo, Durian, Marang, Mangosteen.....
« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2017, 10:39:20 PM »
I get it but in davao most people do not grow seedlings. I’ve been there 4 times. Grafted durian cost about $2 per plant and really easy to find, many nurseries. In Malaysia too most people grow grafted plants. In Indonesia , yes , mostly people growing seedlings, but the quality is generally not as good.

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Re: Trip to Davao - Pomelo, Durian, Marang, Mangosteen.....
« Reply #10 on: December 24, 2017, 11:38:44 PM »
Yes you're right. No professional farmer will ever grow a seedling. Only exception is for Mangosteen.
Since you've been four times in Davao did you stay in city proper or did you travel around? If you go to toril, kapatagan, eden, tamayong, carmen, most of  that fertile semi-mountainous area around mount Apo (volcano) , you will see THOUSANDS of wild durian trees and they are all seedlings
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Re: Trip to Davao - Pomelo, Durian, Marang, Mangosteen.....
« Reply #11 on: December 24, 2017, 11:53:46 PM »
I prefer the city for the markets, Agdao and bankerohan, sometimes magsaysay. Also the indian food near the medical school  is good. Sometimes I stay at a friends cottage or Samal , kaputian when there to get some fresh air. Nice there. I also visited a friends nursery almost 2 hours outside the city before , Bernard Bautista is his name, his family has one of the largest nurseries in Mindanao. Thousands of grafted durians, mangosteen, lanzones, pomelo, citrus and cacao mostly. One of the most inspiring operations I’ve seen.

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« Reply #12 on: December 25, 2017, 07:43:53 AM »
I dont know Mr Bautista but I will try to get more information about his nursery. Maybe it's in kidapawan. There are several interesting nurseries around there. If you're interested in cacao a wonderful place is cacao culture farm in calinan.  I always wondered why cacao is not so extensively coltivated there being a so precious commodity nowadays. I think there's a great potential for that. Most of farmers in mountainous area still stick to rubber and banana barely getting enough icome to survive....
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Re: Trip to Davao - Pomelo, Durian, Marang, Mangosteen.....
« Reply #13 on: December 25, 2017, 02:39:52 PM »
Awesome Lory
With such a description how can someone withstand not to visit that place!
Thank you very much for sharing
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« Reply #14 on: December 25, 2017, 08:17:30 PM »
Hello Mike!
Thanks, and YES for a fruit enthousiast Davao is really worth a visit!
In case you wanna drop by, just get in toucxh, you can be my guest here in moalboal - Cebu then we'll go there together.
Best period is september.
My regards to the beautiful  Kriti - Κρήτη  ;)
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Re: Trip to Davao - Pomelo, Durian, Marang, Mangosteen.....
« Reply #15 on: December 26, 2017, 12:25:59 AM »
Those open fresh durian photos look so delicious!
Hmmmm, my most favorite!
Thanks for posting them, Lory...
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« Reply #16 on: December 26, 2017, 04:04:05 AM »
They ARE actually so delicious Sam!
Can you imagine, first time i tasted a durian i hated it because of its stinky smell.
I had bought it in a supermarket in cebu city, just some cleaned flesh inside a polystyrene packaging.
It was like eating a decomposing dead body, absolutely DISGUSTING.
But then somebody convinced me to....TRY AGAIN with a good, fresh durian and....it was a completely different experience!
Now durian sits well among my most favourite fruits  :)
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« Reply #17 on: December 26, 2017, 12:38:36 PM »
Hello Mike!
Thanks, and YES for a fruit enthousiast Davao is really worth a visit!
In case you wanna drop by, just get in toucxh, you can be my guest here in moalboal - Cebu then we'll go there together.
Best period is september.
My regards to the beautiful  Kriti - Κρήτη  ;)
Thank you very much Lory, absolutely gorgeous. That reminds me to the local hospitality. That trip turns over my mind since long time I will see And of course i will get in touch with you if the decision has fallen. Of course i like to thank you for the kindly words
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« Reply #18 on: December 26, 2017, 08:33:52 PM »
Great Mike, feel free to contact me anytime!  ;)
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« Reply #19 on: January 01, 2018, 03:16:17 AM »
Very nice pictures Lory! 😄 I really enjoyed them thanks for sharing! As far as Marang, I know there are varieties with green or brown skin, do you notice any difference in flavor regardless the skin color from each other?

Hello Raul sorry i completely disregarded your question  :-\
As for my experience,a among marang fruits there is definitely a variability in taste, texture, flesh/seeds ratio, flavour.
But this is NOT correlated with skin colour.
What i noticed is that fruits with bigger, more sparse "thorns" usually have bigger and more fleshy arils inside.
Even size and shape of seeds is variable, some being quite elongated others being quite perfectly round.
Taste of fruits with more elongated seeds is usually exceedingly sweet whereas the ones with rounder seeds have usually a more delicate flavour (that i personally prefer)
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« Reply #20 on: January 01, 2018, 07:22:44 AM »
Smell of arancillo should be not be “very light”. Arancillo is the only really bitter variety in Davao, and the smell should carry through. Puyat most common grown variety in Davao, I don’t care for it but the locals don’t mind it as long as it’s sweet and creamy, their standards for durian are not as high as Malaysians. Why you eat Marang with plastic gloves when you can peel the skin and eat it like a popsicle, no need to use plastic...

I was just browsing this interesting website about durian.
http://durianinfo.blogspot.com/p/durian-varieties-of-philippines.html
The author is a retired technician of malaysian Department Of Agriculture.
Quoting about the ARANCILLO variety:
Arancillo (ACC. 1497) - Tree height of 7-8 meters and has an intermediate to spreading growth habit. The ovoid, brownish green fruit weighs about 1,560 grams with Mimosa yellow, firm and creamy flesh. It has mild aroma. It is prolific and consistent, has excellent eating quality and bears off-season fruits.
It's also stated that apart from the few registered variety there are : hundreds of local durian selections which are not registered.
This is perfectly consistent with my personal experience.




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Re: Trip to Davao - Pomelo, Durian, Marang, Mangosteen.....
« Reply #21 on: January 01, 2018, 09:02:59 AM »
Very nice pictures Lory! 😄 I really enjoyed them thanks for sharing! As far as Marang, I know there are varieties with green or brown skin, do you notice any difference in flavor regardless the skin color from each other?

Hello Raul sorry i completely disregarded your question  :-\
As for my experience,a among marang fruits there is definitely a variability in taste, texture, flesh/seeds ratio, flavour.
But this is NOT correlated with skin colour.
What i noticed is that fruits with bigger, more sparse "thorns" usually have bigger and more fleshy arils inside.
Even size and shape of seeds is variable, some being quite elongated others being quite perfectly round.
Taste of fruits with more elongated seeds is usually exceedingly sweet whereas the ones with rounder seeds have usually a more delicate flavour (that i personally prefer)
Hi Lory! Happy new year! And congrats on your amazing trip! Thanks for such detailed explanation can't wait to try your babies, they are doing really good!
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« Reply #22 on: January 01, 2018, 09:50:40 PM »
Happy new year too and i'm glad to have such good news from you  :)
Lorenzo