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Help slow release fertilizer.
« on: March 18, 2018, 10:43:44 PM »
Please i will like to start using slow release fertilizer to use in 2 gallon container. Can anybody recommend  me a good product and where to buy it. Thanks
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Re: Help slow release fertilizer.
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2018, 11:47:24 PM »
I use Osmocote Plus. $15 for 8 lb from Amazon.

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Re: Help slow release fertilizer.
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2018, 12:38:50 AM »
osmocote plus. go buy it on amazon now. the usual price is $20-25

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« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2018, 06:00:03 AM »
You might want to compare Osmocote Plus with Nutricote Total. They seem similar polymer coated but I see Nutricote specifies "slow release by temperature" while Osmocote doesn't. I've found the Nutricote works wonderfully on containerized annuals, even directly below seeds so little chance of sensitivity. Compare prices including shipping if needed.

University test appears to show a higher release with Nutricote vs Osmocote:

http://ucnfanews.ucanr.edu/Articles/Feature_Stories/Nutrient_Release_from_Controlled-Release_Fertilizers_in_Nursery_Production_Systems/

Nutricote:
http://www.arysta-na.com/Nutricote/files/NUT_18-6-8_PIS.pdf

Osmocote:
http://cdn.greenhousemegastore.com/downloads/pdf/5-6-month-info.pdf?linkingParam=%7B%22__ctmid%22%3A%225aaf852e001caef3941d3e2f%22%2C%22__roit%22%3A%220%22%2C%22_ga%22%3A%22GA1.2.382924929.1521452335%22%2C%22_gid%22%3A%22GA1.2.1459355172.1521452335%22%2C%22_gat%22%3A%221%22%2C%22_gat_t3%22%3A%221%22%2C%22_gat_t4%22%3A%221%22%2C%22__roiNonDirect%22%3A%22true%22%7D

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Re: Help slow release fertilizer.
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2018, 06:46:07 AM »
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Re: Help slow release fertilizer.
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2018, 08:02:55 AM »
I have used a 12 mo. Polyon, 18-4-9 with micros on 1,000's of field Xmas trees.  I'm not anal about how much when planting small liners, 10" tall.  Plant, toss a handful at the base.....move on.   Same with greenhouse stock.  I add a couple of handfuls to a 55 - 100 gal. pot under the mulch.

I'm running out of the Polyon and switched to Osmocote 15-9-12 six month which is a helluva value at Amazon like folks said.  $14.86 for 8 pounds.  Nutricote is expensive by comparison.  Anyone with a good buy on it please link, I'm interested.

https://www.amazon.com/Osmocote-Outdoor-Smart-Release-8-Pound-Fertilizer/dp/B00GTDGMHC/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1521460711&sr=8-3&keywords=osmocote+plus+outdoor+and+indoor+smart-release+plant+food&dpID=51QVbepb5dL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch



8# Nutricote for $65?   ::)
https://www.amazon.com/Nutricote-Release-Fertilizer-Pounds-Orchids/dp/B00J19WJ3C/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1521461053&sr=8-4-fkmr1&keywords=nutricote+fertilizer+8+pounds
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Re: Help slow release fertilizer.
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2018, 08:12:11 AM »
If given a choice of alfalfa pellets between a non gmo feed, a conventional feed or an USDA certified Organic feed.  They will always go to the Organic option, finish it off and leave the non-gmo and the conventional feed options.

Wow, so you organic types have even brain washed your horses?   ;D  I've heard some good testimonials but this beats the best of 'em.

Love the bonnet!  :D
 

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« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2018, 08:23:15 AM »
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Re: Help slow release fertilizer.
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2018, 12:21:26 PM »
HD and Lowe's have their own brand slow release nitrogen fertilizer that has micro- elements. Bags come in different sizes. There are superior fertilizers but if you want convenience head to HD or Lowe's

Vigoro --- Citrus and Avocado Plant Food  -comes in a few sizes---Lowe's has similar
https://www.homedepot.com/s/avocado%2520fertilizer?NCNI-5
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Re: Help slow release fertilizer.
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2018, 01:52:51 PM »
I have used a 12 mo. Polyon, 18-4-9 with micros on 1,000's of field Xmas trees.  I'm not anal about how much when planting small liners, 10" tall.  Plant, toss a handful at the base.....move on.   Same with greenhouse stock.  I add a couple of handfuls to a 55 - 100 gal. pot under the mulch.

I'm running out of the Polyon and switched to Osmocote 15-9-12 six month which is a helluva value at Amazon like folks said.  $14.86 for 8 pounds.  Nutricote is expensive by comparison.  Anyone with a good buy on it please link, I'm interested.

https://www.amazon.com/Osmocote-Outdoor-Smart-Release-8-Pound-Fertilizer/dp/B00GTDGMHC/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1521460711&sr=8-3&keywords=osmocote+plus+outdoor+and+indoor+smart-release+plant+food&dpID=51QVbepb5dL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch



8# Nutricote for $65?   ::)
https://www.amazon.com/Nutricote-Release-Fertilizer-Pounds-Orchids/dp/B00J19WJ3C/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1521461053&sr=8-4-fkmr1&keywords=nutricote+fertilizer+8+pounds

That price seems strangely high. Here in Spain a 55 pounds bag of Nutricote costs around 85€ (+VAT tax) and 1 Kg box around 7€. Nutricote is a Canadian product I think (made by a company called Arysta LiveScience according to my Nutricote box).

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Re: Help slow release fertilizer.
« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2018, 02:37:23 PM »
HAHAHA

If given a choice of alfalfa pellets between a non gmo feed, a conventional feed or an USDA certified Organic feed.  They will always go to the Organic option, finish it off and leave the non-gmo and the conventional feed options.

Wow, so you organic types have even brain washed your horses?   ;D  I've heard some good testimonials but this beats the best of 'em.

Love the bonnet!  :D
 
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Re: Help slow release fertilizer.
« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2018, 07:19:18 PM »
8# Nutricote for $65?   ::)

$1 per pound for me when bought in 50 lb bag, picked up at a local fertilizer wholesaler in Florida's citrus country.

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Re: Help slow release fertilizer.
« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2018, 07:29:48 PM »
I've used this before and been happy with it for potted plants: https://www.amleo.com/osmocote-fertilizer-15-9-12-slow-release-8-to-9-months-50lb-bag/p/159128/
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Re: Help slow release fertilizer.
« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2018, 08:17:23 PM »
How about Vigoro brand sold by Home Depot:

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Vigoro-20-lb-Citrus-and-Avocado-Plant-Food-160327/203091325. (Promoted as "slow release Nitrogen for extended feeding").

The N-P-K ratio is about half to that of Osmocote Plus, but the minors are similar. Don't know how good or effective this brand is, but the it's priced lower than Osmocote: $14.98/20 lb bag. The 40lb bag price is even better: $19.48! Any thought?
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« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2018, 08:18:30 PM »
I've used this before and been happy with it for potted plants: https://www.amleo.com/osmocote-fertilizer-15-9-12-slow-release-8-to-9-months-50lb-bag/p/159128/
Says 1 to 5 bags for $99.99/50lb + $27.99 shipping for 1 bag to my zip.
              Vs. 1 bag 8lb amazon $14.86 + free shipping if 2 bags or greater. buying amazon multiple bags comes to 50lb for $92.875 using ratio & breaking small bags open.  However the plus bag Does say reapply every 6 months (says polymer coating) & has minerals vs. regular bag without minerals reapply every 8-9 months (says encapsulated within multiple layers of polymeric resin). Unknown if same or different resin coating but similar sounding.
Presently much cheaper to buy 2 or more 8lb bags from amazon on price alone & especially with free shipping and added minerals (if desired).

The 40lb bag of HD Vigoro citrus/avocado on 40lb size recommends fertilizing more frequently so not so slow slow release vs. other 2 choices:::  When to apply: apply every 4-6 weeks during the growing season for in ground plants and every 3 months for potted plants (funny being longer for indoor so I guess sunlight or moisture from daily dew breaks down the slow release characteristics faster on this choice...............Then again, leave the pots outside & complain when it doesn't last 3 months... ha.......Then again, maybe pots are part of the slow release function per the manufacturers home depot listing and you must buy them separately...  ;D  ha ) https://www.homedepot.com/p/Vigoro-40-lb-Citrus-and-Avocado-Plant-Food-162125/203089345  .......And the deal Clincher listed to sway your purchase of Vigoro is "Use around other plants: safe to use around other plants"....   ;D  We all sincerely hope soooo....  ;)
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« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2018, 09:20:39 PM »
That's a good deal. I never bought it online myself. The local nursery supply shop always had it at a better price.

The 8-9 month is really more like 4-5 months here in FL.

I've used this before and been happy with it for potted plants: https://www.amleo.com/osmocote-fertilizer-15-9-12-slow-release-8-to-9-months-50lb-bag/p/159128/
Says 1 to 5 bags for $99.99/50lb + $27.99 shipping for 1 bag to my zip.
              Vs. 1 bag 8lb amazon $14.86 + free shipping if 2 bags or greater. buying amazon multiple bags comes to 50lb for $92.875 using ratio & breaking small bags open.  However the plus bag Does say reapply every 6 months (says polymer coating) & has minerals vs. regular bag without minerals reapply every 8-9 months (says encapsulated within multiple layers of polymeric resin). Unknown if same or different resin coating but similar sounding.
Presently much cheaper to buy 2 or more 8lb bags from amazon on price alone & especially with free shipping and added minerals (if desired).

The 40lb bag of HD Vigoro citrus/avocado on 40lb size recommends fertilizing more frequently so not so slow slow release vs. other 2 choices:::  When to apply: apply every 4-6 weeks during the growing season for in ground plants and every 3 months for potted plants (funny being longer for indoor so I guess sunlight breaks down the slow release characteristics faster on this choice...............Then again, leave the pots outside & complain when it doesn't last 3 months... ha.......Then again, maybe pots are part of the slow release function per the manufacturers home depot listing and you must buy them separately... ha ) https://www.homedepot.com/p/Vigoro-40-lb-Citrus-and-Avocado-Plant-Food-162125/203089345  .......And the deal Clincher listed to sway your purchase of Vigoro is "Use around other plants: safe to use around other plants".... We all sincerely hope soooo....
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Re: Help slow release fertilizer.
« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2018, 11:47:26 PM »
I try to use Vigoro for in ground plants, every month. It has only 0.90% Urea slow release.

The other slow release fertilizers are much better at slow release.

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« Reply #17 on: March 20, 2018, 12:46:57 AM »
One HD staffer told me that vigoro was miracle gro rebranded under the HD store brand. Just putting it out there. I haven't confirmed or tested the products :-)


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« Reply #18 on: March 20, 2018, 06:17:50 PM »
Presently much cheaper to buy 2 or more 8lb bags from amazon on price alone & especially with free shipping and added minerals (if desired).

Yep, good micro package too.

A Harrell rep has yet to return my call but Polyon is the best technology on the market with dozens of formulas, rates, release times available.  Releases based on temps.  Commercial product popular with folks like golf course managers, greenhousers.

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« Reply #19 on: March 20, 2018, 08:31:00 PM »
The Polyon looks good. I try to avoid any products with EDTA and that appears to be free of it.

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« Reply #20 on: March 20, 2018, 09:07:45 PM »
How about Vigoro brand sold by Home Depot:

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Vigoro-20-lb-Citrus-and-Avocado-Plant-Food-160327/203091325. (Promoted as "slow release Nitrogen for extended feeding").

The N-P-K ratio is about half to that of Osmocote Plus, but the minors are similar. Don't know how good or effective this brand is, but the it's priced lower than Osmocote: $14.98/20 lb bag. The 40lb bag price is even better: $19.48! Any thought?

Lowes also has similar in 40lb bag for $15  ......  I have to revise about HD and Lowes 6-4-6 slow release nitrogen fertilizers with minors. It seems that only a third or so of the nitrogen is coated to make it slow release.
Does anyone know how much of the nitrogen is polymer coated to make it slow release in the 8 3 9 sold in South Florida by Excalibur and others? Also by Universal Supply in Broward as fruitilizer?

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« Reply #21 on: March 20, 2018, 10:48:41 PM »
I don't see the label, but the vigoro "slow release" stuff is likely going to be mostly water soluble with a small % of water insoluble forms of nitrogen -- and this oftentimes means milorganite (recycled biped feces) or some other cheap form of organic nitrogen (not sulfur / polymer coated).

Sulfur / polymer coated slow release (where a significant % of all nutrients are slow release) is generally quite expensive at the big box stores -- if you can even find it there. You don't really want to buy your fertilizer at a big box store unless you don't have any other options (ie, you don't have a grower's supply nearby).

Update -- I found the label. It's a laughable 0.90% nitogen. At least it's polymer coated. But that basically means that they tossed in 50 cents worth of slow release nitrogen granules to be able to woo / dupe consumers with the "slow release" label :-).

http://www.kellysolutions.com/erenewals/documentsubmit/KellyData/ND%5CFertilizer%5CProduct%20Label%5CVIGORO_CITRUS___AVOCADO_PLANT_FOOD_6_4_6_4_25_2011_11_06_00_AM.pdf
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« Reply #22 on: March 20, 2018, 11:01:39 PM »
I got a bag of this osmocote pro.  85$ for 50lbs 19-5-8

http://www.greenhousemegastore.com/product/osmocote-pro-19-5-8-50-bag-8-9-month/fertilizers

Dont remember what shipping cost but dont remember it being excessive.

They also have osmocote classic, osmote plus, etc in different release rates.

I like the pro stuff better than the 8lb osmocote plus little balls on amazon. 
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« Reply #23 on: March 20, 2018, 11:15:03 PM »
.90% polymer coated is 15% of the nitrogen. The Helena Chemicals and Howard Fertilizer 8-2-12 formulations are 7.2% polymer coated or 90% of the nitrogen for a slow and long feed.

I don't see the label, but the vigoro "slow release" stuff is likely going to be mostly water soluble with a small % of water insoluble forms of nitrogen -- and this oftentimes means milorganite (recycled biped feces) or some other cheap form of organic nitrogen (not sulfur / polymer coated).

Sulfur / polymer coated slow release (where a significant % of all nutrients are slow release) is generally quite expensive at the big box stores -- if you can even find it there. You don't really want to buy your fertilizer at a big box store unless you don't have any other options (ie, you don't have a grower's supply nearby).

Update -- I found the label. It's a laughable 0.90% nitogen. At least it's polymer coated. But that basically means that they tossed in 50 cents worth of slow release nitrogen granules to be able to woo / dupe consumers with the "slow release" label :-).

http://www.kellysolutions.com/erenewals/documentsubmit/KellyData/ND%5CFertilizer%5CProduct%20Label%5CVIGORO_CITRUS___AVOCADO_PLANT_FOOD_6_4_6_4_25_2011_11_06_00_AM.pdf
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« Reply #24 on: March 20, 2018, 11:31:15 PM »
Yep. I think it's just a marketing tactic on the part of vigoro.

.90% polymer coated is 15% of the nitrogen. The Helena Chemicals and Howard Fertilizer 8-2-12 formulations are 7.2% polymer coated or 90% of the nitrogen for a slow and long feed.

I don't see the label, but the vigoro "slow release" stuff is likely going to be mostly water soluble with a small % of water insoluble forms of nitrogen -- and this oftentimes means milorganite (recycled biped feces) or some other cheap form of organic nitrogen (not sulfur / polymer coated).

Sulfur / polymer coated slow release (where a significant % of all nutrients are slow release) is generally quite expensive at the big box stores -- if you can even find it there. You don't really want to buy your fertilizer at a big box store unless you don't have any other options (ie, you don't have a grower's supply nearby).

Update -- I found the label. It's a laughable 0.90% nitogen. At least it's polymer coated. But that basically means that they tossed in 50 cents worth of slow release nitrogen granules to be able to woo / dupe consumers with the "slow release" label :-).

http://www.kellysolutions.com/erenewals/documentsubmit/KellyData/ND%5CFertilizer%5CProduct%20Label%5CVIGORO_CITRUS___AVOCADO_PLANT_FOOD_6_4_6_4_25_2011_11_06_00_AM.pdf
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« Reply #26 on: March 21, 2018, 10:11:44 AM »
For conventional, you absolutely cannot go wrong with Osmocote 15-9-12 (Everris).  Only having to apply twice a year is really nice.  I used the 8-9 month slow release and it worked great.

I'm still trying to find an OMRI slow release product with no luck.
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« Reply #27 on: March 21, 2018, 10:21:07 AM »
I got a bag of this osmocote pro.  85$ for 50lbs 19-5-8

http://www.greenhousemegastore.com/product/osmocote-pro-19-5-8-50-bag-8-9-month/fertilizers

Dont remember what shipping cost but dont remember it being excessive.

They also have osmocote classic, osmote plus, etc in different release rates.

I like the pro stuff better than the 8lb osmocote plus little balls on amazon.
Greenhousemegastore 19-5-8 looks like a good price as to my zip only $9.99 shipping + $85 approximately = $95 for home delivery 50lb. Have you ordered often from this company and any shipping problems yet?

Also it's claimed to be a second generation (So is everything else Osmocote 1st generation and if so what's really the difference in longevity etc.)  (• For use on nursery stock, foliage and landscapes.
• 2nd Generation Osmocote® Pro contains
Osmocote® N-P-K blended with micronutrients
and other fertilizer technologies).......I guess that means a longer slower release potential... but not really sure.

It's interesting that I keep finding a new formulation of Osmocote on many different selling sites with none of the sites clearly listing all of the available osmocote products to purchase on their website... Thus very confusing and hard to evaluate desired choices.

http://www.greenhousemegastore.com/category/s?keyword=osmocote
http://www.greenhousemegastore.com/product/osmocote-pro-19-5-8-50-bag-8-9-month/
http://cdn.greenhousemegastore.com/downloads/pdf/osmocote-pro-19-5-8-product-sheet.pdf?linkingParam=%7B%22__ctmid%22%3A%225ab24bbe001caefb9d9c2d25%22%2C%22__roit%22%3A%220%22%2C%22_ga%22%3A%22GA1.2.114142024.1521634240%22%2C%22_gid%22%3A%22GA1.2.923462961.1521634240%22%2C%22__roiNonDirect%22%3A%22true%22%2C%22_gat%22%3A%221%22%2C%22_gat_t3%22%3A%221%22%2C%22_gat_t4%22%3A%221%22%7D
http://www.osmocotegarden.com/
https://www.scottsaustralia.com.au/scotts-brands/osmocote/osmocote-plus-trace-elements-controlled-release-plant-food/
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_1_8?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=osmocote+slow+release+fertilizer&sprefix=osmocote%2Caps%2C161&crid=3GR3S6XO4QFZB
https://www.plantersplace.com/osmocote-plant-food/




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« Reply #28 on: March 21, 2018, 10:34:32 AM »
Yes I ordered several times and built much of my GH from GH mega store.

No issues.

This stuff is not the same physical fertilizer shape as the osmocote plus on amazon.  The amazon stuff is little yellow balls that never disolve.  They hollow out but always remain, at least on top of soil.

The pro stuff is small granuals and a few different sizes and colors.  Its not all packed into one ball like the plus stuff.

GH megastore has other osmocote stuff also, they have the 15 9 12 osmocote plus but I have not tried it to see if its the same stuff as amazon. 

What I really want is time release 10 5 20 for my bananas.  If anyone knows a high potassium time release let me know.
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« Reply #29 on: March 21, 2018, 10:41:02 AM »
Thanks for the info spaugh, it looks like wait a few months & they may have your desired combo if not already present on another website... quite a variety...

http://www.greenhousemegastore.com/product/osmocote-plus-15-9-12-fertilizer/fertilizers

This page gives you a choice of 4 different delay choices of 15-9-12 using the new 3rd generation technology (if needed)...

3-4 Month MSDS (PDF), 3-4 Month Info Sheet (PDF)

5-6 Month MSDS (PDF), 5-6 Month Info Sheet (PDF)

8-9 Month MSDS (PDF), 8-9 Month Info Sheet (PDF)

12-14 month listed on page
higher prices however...   
$110.00 — 12-14 Month Release, 50# Bag
$119.00 — 3-4 Month Release, 50# Bag
$110.00 — 5-6 Month Release, 50# Bag
$132.00 — 8-9 Month Release, 50# Bag

Funny, but it almost sounds like the computer chip manufactureres.... 1st generation, 2nd generation, 3rd generation, etc. etc. etc. I don't know what generation is in my computer I'm currently typing on .... but it works.  ;)
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« Reply #30 on: March 21, 2018, 10:58:31 AM »
I see it says 3rd gen contains stuff in each prill.  This is probably the yellow balls.  Just because its 3rd gen and all in one ball doesnt mean its better necessarily.  Could be a cost savings for osmocote.  But I really have no clue.

I just dont like how the prills dump their load and leave an empty shell.  It gives you a false indication that the fertilizer is still present.

I havent used the PRO stuff long enough to say if its much better in this regard but I think it may be.  I will look closer at it soon.  I need to get out and fertilize some potted plants.

I am propogating a lot of trees in a GH to use as stock for my grove and like being able to mix this stuff in a 5gal pot and forget about it.  By the time its spent, the trees are ready to plant out in the earth.

Also for what its worth, the recommended amounts are less for the PRO stuff.  I have measured it out using a scale using their recommended rates and the physical volume of fertilizer required with the pro stuff seems much less than the osmocote plus balls.  I belive the plus stuff is recommended to put 1 scoop per gallon of dirt.  The PRO stuff they list out by weight.  And it ends up only being 2 scoops for 5 gallons of dirt based on their chart. 

By the way, where did you see that they are working on high K time release?
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« Reply #31 on: March 21, 2018, 11:32:09 AM »
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« Reply #32 on: March 21, 2018, 11:38:40 AM »
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« Reply #33 on: March 21, 2018, 10:50:01 PM »
Thanks for all the info. I ve a better picture now
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« Reply #34 on: March 22, 2018, 07:33:33 AM »
By the way, where did you see that they are working on high K time release?

I keep potassium sulfate handy for a K hit.

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« Reply #35 on: March 23, 2018, 05:41:33 PM »
Yes I ordered several times and built much of my GH from GH mega store.

No issues.

This stuff is not the same physical fertilizer shape as the osmocote plus on amazon.  The amazon stuff is little yellow balls that never disolve.  They hollow out but always remain, at least on top of soil.

The pro stuff is small granuals and a few different sizes and colors.  Its not all packed into one ball like the plus stuff.
Just go down to your local Poultry ranch, like Hilliker’s in Lakeside and get some manure for your bananas, you’ll have great results.

GH megastore has other osmocote stuff also, they have the 15 9 12 osmocote plus but I have not tried it to see if its the same stuff as amazon. 

What I really want is time release 10 5 20 for my bananas.  If anyone knows a high potassium time release let me know.

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« Reply #36 on: April 01, 2018, 11:08:34 AM »
Just a FYI.... The yo yo amazon price matching has affected osmocote plus pricing...

(It may change again in a few minutes/hours/days to another lower price as most have noticed with amazon price matching rapidly one way & then the other)...

Osmocote Plus Outdoor and Indoor Smart-Release Plant Food, 8-Pound (Plant Fertilizer)  has increased from $14.86 to $19.87
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GTDGMHC/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

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« Reply #37 on: April 02, 2018, 10:22:27 AM »
Just a FYI.... The yo yo amazon price matching has affected osmocote plus pricing...

(It may change again in a few minutes/hours/days to another lower price as most have noticed with amazon price matching rapidly one way & then the other)...

Osmocote Plus Outdoor and Indoor Smart-Release Plant Food, 8-Pound (Plant Fertilizer)  has increased from $14.86 to $19.87
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GTDGMHC/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

$22 now.   Glad I got two when it was $14.  Amazon prices can rock all over the place even from one hour to the next.

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« Reply #38 on: April 02, 2018, 10:56:03 AM »
Just a FYI.... The yo yo amazon price matching has affected osmocote plus pricing...

(It may change again in a few minutes/hours/days to another lower price as most have noticed with amazon price matching rapidly one way & then the other)...

Osmocote Plus Outdoor and Indoor Smart-Release Plant Food, 8-Pound (Plant Fertilizer)  has increased from $14.86 to $19.87
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GTDGMHC/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

$22 now.   Glad I got two when it was $14.  Amazon prices can rock all over the place even from one hour to the next.

I bought this a few weeks ago as well at $14.
(Download the chrome extension "the camelizer", it gives you histographs of the prices for Amazon items.)

I also bought Espoma RT8 8-Pound Rose-Tone Plant Food last week because it was $6 for an 8lb pound.
https://www.amazon.com/Espoma-RT8-8-Pound-Rose-Tone-Plant/dp/B001H1GUIW/ref=pd_sim_86_2?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B001H1GUIW&pd_rd_r=RF08J1549BWFBTQQCMRK&pd_rd_w=P8z59&pd_rd_wg=sxxk6&psc=1&refRID=RF08J1549BWFBTQQCMRK

Heard good things about the brand, I actually thought it was some type of potting soil.
Suppose to be slow release so I'm just trying it on my potted plants and raised bed.
The potassium level is not where I'd like it to be but I'll just supplement with 0-0-22 if needed.

Anybody knows a decent minor mix?
Southern Ag has one but i never heard of anyone using it

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« Reply #39 on: April 02, 2018, 11:51:00 AM »
That's funny. I bought 2 bags myself at the 14 mark 2 weeks ago. I think they must have some sort of algorithm to increase price based on demand. Many of the folks reading this thread must have kicked the pricing algorithm into high demand mode. It was an awesome price at 14 bux.

As for minor element mixes, Helena's 0-0-6 is the best of any I've found. It's around $30 per 50 pound bag, but has an awesome micros package, with something like 14% iron.
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« Reply #40 on: April 02, 2018, 09:42:09 PM »
That's funny. I bought 2 bags myself at the 14 mark 2 weeks ago. I think they must have some sort of algorithm to increase price based on demand. Many of the folks reading this thread must have kicked the pricing algorithm into high demand mode. It was an awesome price at 14 bux.

As for minor element mixes, Helena's 0-0-6 is the best of any I've found. It's around $30 per 50 pound bag, but has an awesome micros package, with something like 14% iron.

Do you know of any OMRI minor element granule?
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« Reply #41 on: April 02, 2018, 10:20:32 PM »
I don't. You'd probably have to make your own. 7springs sells various Tiger granules, and I suppose you could mix them together (eg, http://www.7springsfarm.com/iron-22-tiger-micronutrient-granular-50-lb/ ).

There's no real practical difference between the OMRI listed micronutrients and conventional -- other than how much it costs. Unless you have a market for organic products, save yourself the $$ and use conventional.

That's funny. I bought 2 bags myself at the 14 mark 2 weeks ago. I think they must have some sort of algorithm to increase price based on demand. Many of the folks reading this thread must have kicked the pricing algorithm into high demand mode. It was an awesome price at 14 bux.

As for minor element mixes, Helena's 0-0-6 is the best of any I've found. It's around $30 per 50 pound bag, but has an awesome micros package, with something like 14% iron.

Do you know of any OMRI minor element granule?
Jeff  :-)

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« Reply #42 on: April 03, 2018, 07:47:51 AM »
Anybody knows a decent minor mix?
Southern Ag has one but i never heard of anyone using it

Keyplex 350DP is amazing both as a foliar spray and soil drench.  You'll need to contact a rep.

S.T.E.M. is also good.

Never had any luck with S. Ag.  Many claim they have.

 

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