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Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
« Reply #125 on: January 23, 2016, 08:58:30 PM »
Are there any varieties which can fruit well in a truly tropical environment?

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Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
« Reply #126 on: January 24, 2016, 12:49:25 AM »
Are there any varieties which can fruit well in a truly tropical environment?

My friend has a Morus Nigra in the Philippines & it fruits pretty well.

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Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
« Reply #127 on: January 24, 2016, 11:06:08 PM »
I've got an Australian and a Himalayan mulberry, and for some reason both were grafted. Does anyone know if these varieties don't do well on their own roots?
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Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
« Reply #128 on: January 24, 2016, 11:34:50 PM »
Grafting insures your scion is female.

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Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
« Reply #129 on: January 24, 2016, 11:47:37 PM »
Grafting insures your scion is female.

I meant grafting as opposed to just taking a cutting from a known fruiting variety and just rooting it as is.
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Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
« Reply #130 on: January 25, 2016, 12:30:01 AM »
Dave Wilson Nursery and L E Cooke both graft their mulberries, though they root figs. Maybe it's quicker (to get a saleable size tree) and more reliable. From California Rare Fruit Growers - "Softwood cuttings of white mulberries root easily when taken in midsummer and treated with rooting hormone. Red mulberries are less easily rooted. Black mulberries are also somewhat difficult to propagate since they tend to bleed a lot."

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Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
« Reply #131 on: January 25, 2016, 05:43:49 AM »
Are there any varieties which can fruit well in a truly tropical environment?

Persian white mulberry is also becoming popular in the Phils - as a living fence/windbreak/drought forage crop in Farms. Don't know if it's a heavy bearer or not tho.
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Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
« Reply #132 on: April 02, 2016, 11:22:17 PM »
anyone have cuttings/scions available of that green australian variety? would love to try and graft it onto my tree.  :)

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Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
« Reply #133 on: April 03, 2016, 12:15:38 AM »
anyone have cuttings/scions available of that green australian variety? would love to try and graft it onto my tree.  :)
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Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
« Reply #134 on: April 04, 2016, 12:16:33 AM »
so far Thai Dwarf is one of the most impressive mulberries.

it seems to stay nice and compact.

fruit production is insane...the branches are being weighed down, and fruits are touching the ground.

the flavor is just what you'd expect from a nice black mulberry...and fruits are decent sized, like Tice....not bad when you eat them early too...they have nice tart zing, but sweet too.




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Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
« Reply #135 on: April 04, 2016, 01:52:32 AM »
^^^ How old is that tree?

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Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
« Reply #136 on: April 04, 2016, 06:48:17 PM »
All three scions from February took, and the "white" black (not sure what it is) almost grows more vigorously than the rootstock (pakistani), and several fruits are hanging already.

I am hoping the other two scions, Noir de Spain and white pakistani, will pick up the momentum and not get overshadowed.
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Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
« Reply #137 on: April 04, 2016, 07:50:37 PM »
Adam, that's an insane amount of berries on that thai variety!

Has anyone tried rooting cuttings? how easy is it? can green wood be rooted or only woody cuttings?

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Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
« Reply #138 on: April 05, 2016, 07:58:41 AM »
Adam, that's an insane amount of berries on that thai variety!

Has anyone tried rooting cuttings? how easy is it? can green wood be rooted or only woody cuttings?
i have a few green ones that are putting out growth.
i dug 1 out,and didnt see roots yet though.

my reds generally do this first also.
they root easy as hell.
i had pruned the tree (large morus rubra) a few months ago,,
and was using some of the branches as supports for muscadines
and also as a short fence to keep my small dog out the garden.
at least 1/2 of them are sprouting new growth.
ive done this before and ended up with lots of little trees i had to dig up.

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Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
« Reply #139 on: April 05, 2016, 10:09:18 AM »
ive done this before and ended up with lots of little trees i had to dig up.

OMG this is hilarious!


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Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
« Reply #140 on: April 06, 2016, 12:14:08 AM »
Rooting percentage of cuttings varies dramatically by species (rubra>Alba>Nigra).  I have tried many times to get cuttings rooted, but I think we heat up too quickly here in AZ....dormant cuttings push growth before roots have begun to proliferate.  I get fooled into thinking I have 'finally done it', only to have growth wither and die and only small or no root growth once I investigate.  Seems rubra and hybrids have a much higher'take' rate, or so it seems based on what little data that I can find.  Seems most authors neglect to mention, or know/care, what species they are working with.
Would welcome any input people have on increasing rooting percentage with Nigra.
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Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
« Reply #141 on: April 18, 2016, 03:54:23 PM »
Today I've found some mulberry trees for sale, but they were from a variety I've never seen before. It had some bizarre leaves compared to other varieties I know.
Does anyone knows this one? What species and variety is this?


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Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
« Reply #142 on: April 18, 2016, 04:23:52 PM »
Any picturess of a Morus Nigra by dave wilson grown here (in the US)?

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Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
« Reply #143 on: March 18, 2017, 10:42:00 PM »
Big thanks to gunnar429 for the scion he gave me last year. Here's a little progress video on how a small chip bud graft do in 7 months.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BOS2LmVgLu0/


and here it is today full of fruit!


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Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
« Reply #144 on: March 19, 2017, 06:03:01 PM »
anyone growing Noir de Spain here? how does it taste like compare to Pakistan?

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Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
« Reply #145 on: March 20, 2017, 10:31:32 AM »
Rooting percentage of cuttings varies dramatically by species (rubra>Alba>Nigra).  I have tried many times to get cuttings rooted, but I think we heat up too quickly here in AZ....dormant cuttings push growth before roots have begun to proliferate.  I get fooled into thinking I have 'finally done it', only to have growth wither and die and only small or no root growth once I investigate.  Seems rubra and hybrids have a much higher'take' rate, or so it seems based on what little data that I can find.  Seems most authors neglect to mention, or know/care, what species they are working with.
Would welcome any input people have on increasing rooting percentage with Nigra.

I got a successful take on 3 sticks. I dipped them into rooting hormone, cut into an angle at bottom, and then pushed them about 12 inches into the ground, no potting. time of planting was during during dormancy, right about now before it started to sprout. it took, but has not grown much, assuming it was busy establishing roots, I hope this year they would take off. I have this Nigra grafted one that I got 3 years ago and its a monster. I plan on cutting it down once my rooted one takes off this year. I want to keep it small manageable height. The one I got grafted was 7 feet tall with graft union at 5 feet, too high for my comfort.  Anyone want scions, PM me.

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Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
« Reply #146 on: March 20, 2017, 11:02:58 AM »
anyone growing Noir de Spain here? how does it taste like compare to Pakistan?
I have Noir de spain and it is just as tasty as my Black Persian mulberry! Also i have rooted m. Nigra but took a long time in shade almost nine months before they had roots also have done huge branch cutting just stuck in ground like Behl said! I do stick cutting that are in pot's into tree pot's which are tall, I stick 1' cutting into 80%pumice & 20%peat most with angle cut below leaf node and wound slice into cambium on opposite side and dip into rooting hormone. Leave two bud's above soil.
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Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
« Reply #147 on: March 20, 2017, 05:57:40 PM »
I have Noir de spain and it is just as tasty as my Black Persian mulberry! Also i have rooted m. Nigra but took a long time in shade almost nine months before they had roots also have done huge branch cutting just stuck in ground like Behl said! I do stick cutting that are in pot's into tree pot's which are tall, I stick 1' cutting into 80%pumice & 20%peat most with angle cut below leaf node and wound slice into cambium on opposite side and dip into rooting hormone. Leave two bud's above soil.

Is noir de spain a late late grower? My multi-graft mulberry tree with white / pakistani / unknown etc. has completely leafed out except for this branch. Buds and all buds.
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Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
« Reply #148 on: March 20, 2017, 06:48:30 PM »
Thedom mulberry in our area are subject to nematodes. Being grafted to the right root stock can be life or death in the long run.Tice mulberry makes very good root stock or you could try and find over on peace rd some of the wild mulberry for root stock.

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Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
« Reply #149 on: March 20, 2017, 08:39:03 PM »
Growing the Florida everbearing (either from PIN or Top), and it has been great thus far. In ground over a year now, constantly fruiting. Fruits are sour until they turn totally black; then they are almost entirely sweet. Like awesome blackberries without large seed hulls to chew through.

Just cut it all down to about 6 feet, and it started flowering more aggressively. Seems like you could chop it down small every year, keep it manageable, and reap delicious berries. Not planning on letting it get big.

Have been told by someone with several varieties that the best flavor is from the Illinois everbearing. Unfortunately, after I gave away all my extra cuttings, then mine bit the dust.
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