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Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
« Reply #50 on: February 02, 2015, 02:08:14 PM »
I have a Everbearing and I love it. While it appears to be low on the Mulberry totem poll, can anyone who tasted "Tice" and Giant Mulberry (not sure if it's "FL Giant" or just "Giant", or they are one in the same) have any tart component when fully ripe? I'm not a fan of tart. Some feedback will be apprecieated :). Also, are either suitable for container life (25-45 gal w/ pruning).

I have eaten many Tice.  They are pretty much on the sweet side when fully deep purple black ripe.

In my opinion, you cannot beat the green mulberry in terms of sweetness with absolutely zero tart component.
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Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
« Reply #51 on: February 02, 2015, 02:42:23 PM »
I have a Everbearing and I love it. While it appears to be low on the Mulberry totem poll, can anyone who tasted "Tice" and Giant Mulberry (not sure if it's "FL Giant" or just "Giant", or they are one in the same) have any tart component when fully ripe? I'm not a fan of tart. Some feedback will be apprecieated :). Also, are either suitable for container life (25-45 gal w/ pruning).

I have eaten many Tice.  They are pretty much on the sweet side when fully deep purple black ripe.

In my opinion, you cannot beat the green mulberry in terms of sweetness with absolutely zero tart component.

Agreed, the white var. is quite sweet...melon type flavor. White varieties have a good advantage...as them birds don't know when they are ripe, compared with the black varieties, which they wipe out quick as they ripen.
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Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
« Reply #52 on: February 02, 2015, 02:48:24 PM »
mulberries fruit on new wood, so it's ok to prune them yearly, and you can prune heavily!

the biggest challenge growing in a pot will be keeping the roots from growing out of the container...and from growing into the ground....or becoming root bound.

You will most likely have to prune the roots every few years, once you get up to a 15 or 25 gal pot...this will help you keep the tree at small size, and in a pot for a longer duration.
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Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
« Reply #53 on: February 03, 2015, 05:43:44 PM »
Picked up some new mulberries...i think the plants came from Excalibur indirectly, one called peruvian,and one called australian...

any info on these types?

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Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
« Reply #54 on: February 03, 2015, 05:46:43 PM »
http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=12985.msg165123#msg165123

ok found a little info about Australian...now any info on peruvian?

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Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
« Reply #55 on: February 03, 2015, 06:15:35 PM »
If they came from Excalibur,  someone else gave them those names.  Excalibur does not have any varieties wifh eigher of those names.
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Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
« Reply #56 on: February 03, 2015, 06:32:47 PM »
If they came from Excalibur,  someone else gave them those names.  Excalibur does not have any varieties wifh eigher of those names.

thanks for the info!  my only guess is PIN.

is this the same variety that excalibur sells, but with a different name?
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Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
« Reply #57 on: February 03, 2015, 10:28:24 PM »
If they came from PIN, the origin is most likely F&S Park.

I will see what info I can find on Excalibur's green mulberry.
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Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
« Reply #58 on: February 04, 2015, 05:47:12 PM »
i LOVE mulberries

a few years ago, i had a tree volunteer itself in my yard
i had no idea what it was, but, i needed something to shade the house from the sun there...
i let it grow and found it was a mulberry.
the fruit was pretty poor, but, i figured i hadnt paid any attention to it,
so, i pruned it, and fed it
the next year, it produced wonderful fruit.
pretty sure its a RED, they are the supposed wild ones here.

Now, i want something to graft to it.
i have someone sending me  PAK cuttings

they are also sending (i hope) cuttings from the "native" mulberry
which they say is everbearing ???
(They are in Fla)

i would like to root 2 of the cuttings
and graft the rest to my tree.

is this possible ? to root cuttings from a Pakistan rtee ?

also...
if anyone has a tasty black i can get some cuttings from
i can pay shipping. (or trade -  i have other stuff too)

My Red is 20ft tall, i can graft a lot to it.

the PIC is of a cutting i rooted from my RED
its in a greenhouse and is flowering / fruiting now
its about 1 ft tall!

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Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
« Reply #59 on: February 04, 2015, 08:38:53 PM »
Yes, Pakistan can be rooted easily. Black Persian is the one I haven't been able to start from cuttings. ;)

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Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
« Reply #60 on: February 04, 2015, 09:02:32 PM »
Yes, Pakistan can be rooted easily. Black Persian is the one I haven't been able to start from cuttings. ;)

try airlayering your black persian!  i think it might work better than cuttings.
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Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
« Reply #61 on: February 05, 2015, 10:30:17 PM »
There's an idea I've never thought about thanks Adam, great suggestion I'll have to give that a try in late Spring. I glad you mention it because I'm about to prune that dude and now I'll leave some limps to try air layering on! The Blk. Persian doesn't put on leaves until mid spring very late to come out. ;) 8)

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Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
« Reply #62 on: February 06, 2015, 10:36:31 AM »
For a TICE update, my mulberry came out of winter dormancy last week (early Feb/2015) .  I severely hacked it back while it was dormant to try to keep the size of it to around ten feet.   It was just a ugly stick tree for a couple months and dropped all its leaf.  Now it has flushed out with new growth and flowers!   

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Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
« Reply #63 on: February 06, 2015, 06:14:45 PM »
We obviously have different names for the fruits than you, but the Red Dwarf Shahtoot is a winner for me. I find the King White Shahtoot to be insipid - without any real flavour, just a watery honey taste. I also love the big old standard English Mulberry with more complexity - many newer selections are just sweet.

Agreed. Red dwarf shahtoot is pretty much the perfect mulberry, I find mine more slow growing than the dwarf black however.

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Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
« Reply #64 on: February 24, 2015, 06:43:24 PM »
Dear all, I never thought about planting a mulberry tree until reading about them here! So tempted. What variety do you recommend for SoCal zone 10b San Gabriel Valley, dwarf and non-staining? Many thanks!!!
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Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
« Reply #65 on: February 24, 2015, 08:13:24 PM »
Somehow I stumbled upon the tag for that black mulberry I'd posted before from ECHO. They had it labeled as "Everbearing".
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Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
« Reply #66 on: February 24, 2015, 10:40:47 PM »
Persian mulberries are indeed delicious, but unfortunately don't do well in tropical areas. There are only a few mulberries that do well in warm climates. So this is something to keep in mind when choosing your mulberry.
zone 10 recommendations... please? I believe I mostly see dark red and black varieties, not sure if they stain. I'll have to plant it close to driveway so staining is big no...
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Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
« Reply #67 on: February 24, 2015, 10:46:54 PM »
Persian mulberries are indeed delicious, but unfortunately don't do well in tropical areas. There are only a few mulberries that do well in warm climates. So this is something to keep in mind when choosing your mulberry.
zone 10 recommendations... please? I believe I mostly see dark red and black varieties, not sure if they stain. I'll have to plant it close to driveway so staining is big no...

Your best choice is the green mulberry. ..not only will it not stain but the flavor is top quality.
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Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
« Reply #68 on: February 24, 2015, 10:48:25 PM »
We obviously have different names for the fruits than you, but the Red Dwarf Shahtoot is a winner for me. I find the King White Shahtoot to be insipid - without any real flavour, just a watery honey taste. I also love the big old standard English Mulberry with more complexity - many newer selections are just sweet.

Agreed. Red dwarf shahtoot is pretty much the perfect mulberry, I find mine more slow growing than the dwarf black however.
Do these taste any different than a Pakistan mulberry? I had one of those but lost it early on while the pakistan remains.

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Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
« Reply #69 on: February 24, 2015, 11:08:48 PM »
Persian mulberries are indeed delicious, but unfortunately don't do well in tropical areas. There are only a few mulberries that do well in warm climates. So this is something to keep in mind when choosing your mulberry.
zone 10 recommendations... please? I believe I mostly see dark red and black varieties, not sure if they stain. I'll have to plant it close to driveway so staining is big no...

Your best choice is the green mulberry. ..not only will it not stain but the flavor is top quality.

Thank you very much! Under what names is green mulberry available?
I had my eyes on white mulberry (morus alba)... Is zone 10 too warm for it to fruit well?
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Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
« Reply #70 on: February 26, 2015, 12:03:13 AM »
Yes, what is this "green" Variety called?  I want to get one.
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Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
« Reply #71 on: February 26, 2015, 01:33:24 AM »
We obviously have different names for the fruits than you, but the Red Dwarf Shahtoot is a winner for me. I find the King White Shahtoot to be insipid - without any real flavour, just a watery honey taste. I also love the big old standard English Mulberry with more complexity - many newer selections are just sweet.

Agreed. Red dwarf shahtoot is pretty much the perfect mulberry, I find mine more slow growing than the dwarf black however.
Do these taste any different than a Pakistan mulberry? I had one of those but lost it early on while the pakistan remains.


I couldn't say having never tried that Pakistan mulberry. I guess they would be different as shahtoot are thai I believe.

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Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
« Reply #72 on: March 10, 2015, 02:33:08 PM »
The past couple of days, I've been picking 7-8 mullberries a day off my Everbearing tree. I'm tempted to get another one considering the price I paid for it. Instant gratification and when picked properly, the fruits are sweet. Saw a lone Peruvian specimen today at a local nursery. A lone stalk that was long and whippy. The leaves were smaller than Tice but 2-2.5x the size of Everbearing. I wish there was more info avaliable on it.
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Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
« Reply #73 on: March 10, 2015, 06:29:59 PM »
I recently bought a green mulberry 3 gallon size tree. It had three immature green mulberries on it. I bought it taste-unseen because of the high praise I read about here. The three little mulberries finally matured and I got to taste it. I guess I prefer more intense, complicated flavors because these left me totally uninspired. Very mild, no sharpness or complexity, some kind of greeny undertaste - sort of like sweet lettuce or something. Since it is so small I'll give it a year to prove to me that it's worth keeping.

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Re: Must have mulberries (looking for new varieties)
« Reply #74 on: March 10, 2015, 07:08:18 PM »
I did some reaearch.

The variety of green mulberry that is "all the rage" in flavor is the "Australian."

It is green/white, tastes like honey dew melon, very large/long berries, and very rare and hard to find.

Of course, I found one and it is in order.  ;)
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