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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Nematodes and Fruit trees
« on: January 16, 2024, 10:09:03 AM »
I found the Sea Fox Farms potting soil from Ace Hardware does a great job rooting fig cuttings. I had 95% success rate with the last batch I did in solo cups a few months ago.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: figs!!!! an underated fruit
« on: January 12, 2024, 11:32:40 AM »
@zwanif- ok you convinced me. I ordered some cuttings of that and a few other oddballs I saw available.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: figs!!!! an underated fruit
« on: January 12, 2024, 09:23:46 AM »
Is Bakor self fertile or does it require a wasp?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Nematodes and Fruit trees
« on: January 11, 2024, 09:16:17 AM »
Some trees are especially vulnerable like fig trees and there is NOTHING in Central eastern Florida grey sand that can be done to prevent them. Even resistant varieties will only last slightly longer. Blackberry Jam trees are also vulnerable, not quite as badly as figs but noticably so. In my yard which is loaded with nematodes, I have not noticed any real effect on mango, avocado, citrus, etc. I havent looked but a mention above of grapes has me wondering if thats why my grapes never taken off.

Maybe after 20 years of constant mulching it might make a difference but less than 10 years of mulching and mulch breakdown and you will not notice a difference with nematode pressure. I have tried buying nematode predators and did not see a difference. You can solarize the soil and sure, wipe out everything in it but give it a year and they will be right back.

Havent tried the mustard seed thing. Might be worth a try since it grows pretty well here.

I grow figs in pots on concrete tiles to prevent errant roots from contacting the soil. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: figs!!!! an underated fruit
« on: January 09, 2024, 08:45:57 AM »
Troph, it is possible to protect them by growing in containers with sterilized media, or do the nematodes go everywhere?
Containers are the only way we can grow them. They just wont get very big. I have about a half dozen various figs in bigger pots and some unknowns in cups from an old, abandoned orchard I found in GA that I was able to root recently. I have tried the open bottom 5 gallon bucket and have not been impressed. I think the sand we have is just too deep and loose and the nematodes just go under the bucket and into the soil inside. These RKN apparently do not have the weakness to high organics in the soil like they do elsewhere.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Nursery near Orlando
« on: January 08, 2024, 08:48:53 AM »
Lucas Nursery is worth visiting if just for wandering around. Its fruit tree prices are horrible, but its a huge nursery with tons of ornamentals including lots of weird stuff, several indoor/shade areas and a butterfly garden experience(never went on it myself).

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: figs!!!! an underated fruit
« on: January 08, 2024, 08:44:13 AM »
Another problem with figs is quite a few of our members live in areas where growing figs is difficult due to an extremely bad Root Knot Nematode which will devastate even supposed resistant trees in a couple years. I grow some in pots that I got from cuttings a few years back, but they dont get very big and have poor fruit harvests.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Grow bags?
« on: December 11, 2023, 08:39:00 AM »
Wouldnt having plastic dishes under them eventually rot the bottoms of the bags?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Grow bags?
« on: December 08, 2023, 03:48:01 PM »
Appreciate the offer. I live on the exact opposite end of the county from the parks. It would cost almost as much as the amazon deal in tolls to get out there. But thanks for the link, seems like a pretty good deal.

I have been using fox farm potting soil lately on a lot of things. Seems like pretty good stuff. Maybe I'll mix in some extra perlite.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Grow bags?
« on: December 08, 2023, 09:34:24 AM »
I would like to experiment with growing some trees in grow bags. I have heard good things especially on growing mango and other trees that dont like to be water logged. What are some good bags in the 20-30 gallon range that have a stated 5 year or so lifespan?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lychee Thread
« on: November 20, 2023, 10:55:30 AM »
I have a sweetheart that has been in ground in east Orange county(FL) since 2012. Its one of my original trees I planted after Bob from Green Jungle(RIP) gave me some fruit from his trees. I was hooked. My tree is about 15 feet high and about 10 wide. Never had any cold or frost issues while nearby longons, which are supposedly more cold hardy, froze. I have also never even had a flowering. Really flipping annoying for one of my most otherwise successful trees. My Texas plum at least blooms.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: New USDA Plant Hardiness Zone Update?
« on: November 15, 2023, 09:18:17 AM »
In Central FL I went from 9b to 10a. Guess I will toss all my heat lamps and tree blankets since I dont need to protect my mangos anymore and will start collecting ultra-tropicals to put in the ground. Woo-hoo! Will Durian grow in 10a? :P Maybe my Royal Poinciana wont freeze back to the roots every year now.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pickering Starting To Flower
« on: November 09, 2023, 01:19:42 PM »
I have one in ground as well with pretty similar growth. As opposed to a Sweet tart which I pugged to a three foot tall stump about 8 years ago and I have to top off every year at 8 feet tall and about 8 feet wide if not a little more. Im half tempted to just let it go next year and see if it can survive a winter without help.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pickering Starting To Flower
« on: November 09, 2023, 08:15:52 AM »
There are no true "dwarf" mangoes. There's vigorous growers and non-vigorous growers. All will grow large if not pruned and controlled. Pickering is a slow grower and is easy to maintain in a small form, thus "dwarf." I doubt a pruning back in 2022 is having an effect now. Mangoes are weird trees when it comes to weather. Maybe it thinks that brief cold spell we had a few weeks ago was winter and this new warm weather is spring? Combined with not having fruited since 2022 and wanting to get it out.

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I learned a few years ago to quit doing anything to mine once they are settled. I trim to keep them about 7 feet tall and wide so I can easily cover them when it freezes and thats about it. I dont even fertilize them or add any kind of pesticide unless I see those nasty weevils. Then I will add a root drench. Now that I have several avocado trees the weevils tend to congregate there instead of on the mangos.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cacao Growers, zone pushing and varietals
« on: November 06, 2023, 09:27:49 AM »
Not sure why you used lychee as an example. It actually requires chill hours that would kill a cocoa plant, its why they grow fairly well here in Southern Central Florida 9B where we get freezes every year. Cocoa is incredibly fragile and I think even in zone 10 it would require a greenhouse or to be brought indoors on the regular.

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-lychee
-Longan
-Sapodilla
-'Dream' atemoya
-Macadamia
-Lemon Guava

None of these will survive 22 degrees. Most of them will not survive 30 degrees. Not sure on the others as I have not tried them myself. I dont think almonds particularly like cold weather either.

Curious why pecans wont do well, the temperature is perfect on the cold side. I know the groves in GA regularly get down to the lower 20s and teens. I lived in GA for a time near the groves areas. Is it the lack of 90+ degree weather?

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Pecans might be interesting to try. Arent there some avocados that survive that low in temp? Paw Paws. There are lots of apples, peaches and plums that will work for you. In my opinion you are in a much more ideal temp zone than I am in 9b Florida where we have the worst of all conditions, too cold for tropicals, too hot for sub tropicals, and all the disease and bugs of both.

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Just to tag along, right there with you in a slightly cooler 9b. I have some recently acquired land I want to put fruit trees on and paw paws are high on the list.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Kei apple cold tolerance
« on: September 21, 2023, 01:42:09 PM »
I started two from seeds back in 2013 or so. One is about 4 foot and the other is 7 feet tall, they are about four feet from each other. In my experience, it doesnt care about cold in Florida 9b. But it neither of mine have flowered either. I would have pulled them long ago but they are in a corner of my yard I dont really care about so I let them do their slow thing.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Thief Caught
« on: September 14, 2023, 09:01:56 AM »
We had fruit thief issues here while I was deployed. Some big dude with a machete picked all my citrus and star fruit trees clean and then knocked on the door to be answered by my wife. He said he hoped we didnt mind him taking the fruit. She replied that yeah she minded but its a little late now. He then cussed her out and she slammed the door. We keep a shotgun by the door now. She was also severely suffering from a migraine and wasnt thinking straight.

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Nicks Edibles over in St Cloud has some at very good prices.

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I went walking through my new property last night and discovered some more clear areas in the palmetto under oaks I hadnt noticed before. Next year I might give some more varieties of citrus a try. Always happy to try a new mandarin flavor and while I personally do not care for grapefruit, they do turn into really nice big trees that would look good under the oaks. Dont know what a sun dragon is but it has a cool name.

I have no clue what variety of jujube I have is. It does have thorns and the fruit is about  the size of 2/3 of my thumb. Yeah it tastes like a super grainy and dry apple. 

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: CLM & Citrus Canker
« on: August 01, 2023, 10:20:21 AM »
What can be used to control CLM? In FL Neem and other oils are a No-Go since we tend to hit 85 in early spring and doesnt cool down until late November.

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Jujube? In winter? Its a deciduous tree or it is in 9b. Loses its leaves in fall and is fairly unattractive, the fruit is kind of meh anyway. Irish Strawberry isnt specifically winter ripening and ripens throughout the year. Citrus of course but has its own issues and if you dont have oaks, dont bother.

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