The Tropical Fruit Forum

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Quote from: Cookie Monster on March 31, 2012, 11:39:06 AM

Easy now, cowboy. This forum is G-rated.

Quote from: Jacob13 on March 31, 2012, 03:46:43 AM

Holy *****, That tree is incredible!!

   
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Conooo, that tree is incredible!

Better. 

I got some incredibly delicious ataulfos from Sam's Club about 2 weeks ago. I think it was a dozen for 7$.

Did Murray comment on productivity?

Everything Tony/SWRancher said is accurate.  In addition, the mango is supposedly extremely sweet and extremely late in season. This info is per Murray Corman.

Harry

Why be your mangoes so big? I have several in pots and they are like 1/10 that size.

My pickering tree is getting close to ripening some fruits!  I'm pretty sure growing in a pot has put me way ahead of most other mango growers in FL...another advantage to container growing!  I may be first to post on forum, FL mango harvest...??...maybe not.

I took some pics of my largest Pickering...It has 10 mangoes on it that look like they might ripen (if they don't get knocked off!).

I got all up underneath the tree and snapped the photo, so u could see the tree without having all of the other trees in the background, making the tree have no contrast, and so u could see all the mangoes.

I like the shot because it kind of messes with your perspective, and looks to me like 30 ft mango tree, with 8ft leaves, and 4ft fruit! LOL  That would be an amazing tree!  For now I will have to settle for this little amazing tree!

The mango that's ripe, is from the same tree with 10mangoes, just from a few years ago. 

What's the scoop on the Cheena Jackfruit? Is it any good? Literature says fibrous; does that mean that it's one of those soft and hard to swallow jacks?

Yah, without leaves, the tree has no energy source. What will often happen is that the roostock will eventually die back and sprout near the base. The rootstock is a bit thick, though. So, I suppose there is still a chance.

Quote from: Greg1029 on March 29, 2012, 04:32:01 PM

I received my Mamey scions today from Frankies Nursery.  Here are pictures of my attempt at grafting my 4ft. seedling.  Lynn from Frankies suggested I try a cleft and side veneer graft on the same rootstock.  She said its more difficult for larger diameter rootstock to take and doing both might increase my chances.  I've got a third scion which I plan on using on JF's smaller seedling.  I accidentally broke off the only two leaves while trying to put it in my overcrowded portable greenhouse.  I'm hoping that won't be an issue. 

Greg

That might be a very big issue. With no leaves left on the rootstock your grafts are not likely to take.

I'm tellin ya -- montosogardens RALKS!!

Quote from: pj1881 on March 29, 2012, 01:22:31 PM

They actually send them in soiless mix!

That's even better. Now I'm tempted to order one.

Yah, I'd agree with Mr Sheehan. If you're a 'gringo', you're probably not going to instantly like it :-). And, they don't seem to be very precocious, so potted culture could be a giant game of patience :-). It does make a great ornamental though.

Quote from: lycheeluva on March 29, 2012, 02:27:46 PM

felipe- not sure where i am going this!
really wanted to get some feedback on the fruit before deciding what next!
hopefully, i can taste one when im in florida in mid july

If I remember correctly, in Florida it usually fruits around March. Someone may have fruit on their trees right now for you to try.

When you say "deciding what next", do you mean possibly growing in NY? I think even the grafted trees may get too big before they start holding fruit to be able to be grown easily indoors. Maybe someone has had success growing them in a greenhouse/indoors?

OK. Very interesting. Thanks Adam and Har for the advice!

I think Adam is right about the advantage of small rootstock and big scion.  I have done some good dormant Annona grafts in late winter and early spring, but I have done a lot of terrible batches too, using rootstock that we knew would be too big to use next summer.

YOu won't be let down. Montosogardens is top notch. I ordered 6 so far, and all have been beautiful.

Thanks guys! I actually ordered one from montoso in PR.
I will update once I receive it.
Thanks!!!!!

OK, I see what you did. You were able to harvest budwood before the leaves fell off. Good work.

Atemoya mostly, but have grafted some squamosa, reticulata and rollinia, and a few other species this year with good results so far...if they die out of no where I will let you know.

Here is some pics young graftsman.

4826 atemoya, cleft.  Bagged entire plant to keep scion from desiccating.  Now the cats out of the bag, and growing well...I haven't taken the tape off yet around the union.  Do you think I'm gumping the jun, by saying these grafts have taken?



Graft union of plant above



Nuathong, same as above, but I removed the bag early, damaging the fully formed leaves...so removed the fully formed leaves and I put it in shade, and its recovering nicely with new growth still coming.  Now it can handle fuller sun.




Graft union of plant above




These two are examples of the easiest way I know how to graft, but I do have some veneer grafts on big trees, in pots, that have lost all of their leaves, and some with leaves....the real key is timing when to cut the scion, and selecting a good scion.

I've only had success grafting annonas after April, well after bud break and when the tree is in vigorous growth flush. After around September, success tapers off again. I'm not entirely sure why other than perhaps the dormancy translates into lack of cambium growth.

Loquat will commonly push and then die if you leave it without a source of energy (ie, leaves).

With mangoes this hasn't happened to me much.  But with annona, especially recent cherimoya grafts I have had buds from the scion push only to die off immediately when they burst through the parafilm I wasn't sure why that was. Murahilin told me that Jeff told him that if an annona graft pushes immediately it is going to always die...or words to that effect.  A sucessful annona graft will be dormant until the scion heals onto  the rootstock and then it pushes when it breaks dormancy.  has anyone else found this to be true?

Harry