Author Topic: What tropcal fruit tree to plant in mostly shade? (Read 17972 times)

Mfajar · « **on:** February 13, 2012, 08:46:19 PM »

I have a spot along the north side of my house that needs some tropical fruits! Well it's complete shade during winter and like 5-6 hours during the summer. In addition is very damp as the a/c water goes there. Initially I thought the jaboticabas, but they did not like the winter full shade. What other recconendations do you guys have?
Thanks

Cookie Monster · « **Reply #1 on:** February 13, 2012, 09:18:24 PM »

a garcinia? My garcinia intermedia doesn't mind shade.

fruitlovers · « **Reply #2 on:** February 13, 2012, 09:45:26 PM »

Another garcinia that doesn't mind a lot of shade is the Bolivian achachairu. A lot tastier than G. intermedia in my opinion.
Oscar

RodneyS · « **Reply #3 on:** February 13, 2012, 10:08:56 PM »

naranjilla

jcaldeira · « **Reply #4 on:** February 13, 2012, 10:21:12 PM »

Not really fruits, but ginger, turmeric and cardamom all grow very well in a mostly-shaded location.

John

Squam256 · « **Reply #5 on:** February 13, 2012, 11:01:52 PM »

If you are into miracle fruit at all, it seems to do well in shade.

murahilin · « **Reply #6 on:** February 13, 2012, 11:21:04 PM »

Quote from: jcaldeira on February 13, 2012, 10:21:12 PM

Not really fruits, but ginger, turmeric and cardamom all grow very well in a mostly-shaded location.

John

Another non-fruit that has an edible root is is the Calathea allouia. The tubers are boiled and taste pretty good. The plant looks nice too. Does very well in shade.

Mfajar · « **Reply #7 on:** February 14, 2012, 06:35:52 AM »

Very interesting suggestions! Thanks

Unfortuately, I have never tried any garcinia. Where could I find a fruit to taste and then plant the seed or the tree? I think based on what I read I would buy the tree without even trying the fruit.
The non fruit suggestions gave me a great idea to plant underneath other trees or in between the garcinias, I will look into those thanks for the suggestions. I'm gonna research naranjilla because that's another one that I never tasted.

It's a large space and I will like to fill it up, I'm will start with the garcinias u guys suggested if I can find one

Do you think cacao or dragon fruit (in pot) would like this spot?

Thanks for your responses! This spot will be my spring project, I will update with pics once completed.

adiel · « **Reply #8 on:** February 14, 2012, 07:36:40 AM »

I also would say the achachairu.

Adiel

natsgarden123 · « **Reply #9 on:** February 14, 2012, 10:27:55 AM »

How tasty is the Bolivian Achachairu? Is it "worth growing"? Is it an attractive plant? I also have a very shady area on the north side of my house.

sultry_jasmine_nights · « **Reply #10 on:** February 14, 2012, 11:25:47 AM »

Cacao will grow in shade or dappled sunlight. I am not sure about them getting full on sun unless it is only morning sun. Some people grow them under a grapefruit tree or other type of tree that provides shade. I had several seedlings that were doing really well in slanted morning sun and dappled afternoon shade. They got a few feet tall before I had put them in the greenhouse in the winter of 2009 when it got really cold in FL. I had a tree fall on the back end of the greenhouse that winter which ended the little trees. Most stuff survived but not them they are really cold sensitive but you may be able to grow them without winter protection. I am in the Jax area (9a ish) so they definitely need protection on the colder nights here.

Here are some pics of my little cacao trees before I potted them up and they were a little larger before they went into the greenhouse that year. I am hoping to get some more pods and try again.
They are in the bottom left hand side of the pic (in front of the Hawaiian wood rose vine)

jcaldeira · « **Reply #11 on:** February 14, 2012, 01:18:57 PM »

Quote from: Mfajar on February 14, 2012, 06:35:52 AM

Do you think cacao or dragon fruit (in pot) would like this spot?

Cacao would probably grow well there. Cocoa is commercially grown in partial shade in areas that get good year-round rain. Since you have AirCon runoff at your location, it may do well there. It does not withstand drought well.

fruitlovers · « **Reply #12 on:** February 14, 2012, 09:20:32 PM »

Quote from: sultry_jasmine_nights on February 14, 2012, 11:25:47 AM

Cacao will grow in shade or dappled sunlight. I am not sure about them getting full on sun unless it is only morning sun. Some people grow them under a grapefruit tree or other type of tree that provides shade. I had several seedlings that were doing really well in slanted morning sun and dappled afternoon shade. They got a few feet tall before I had put them in the greenhouse in the winter of 2009 when it got really cold in FL. I had a tree fall on the back end of the greenhouse that winter which ended the little trees. Most stuff survived but not them they are really cold sensitive but you may be able to grow them without winter protection. I am in the Jax area (9a ish) so they definitely need protection on the colder nights here.

Here are some pics of my little cacao trees before I potted them up and they were a little larger before they went into the greenhouse that year. I am hoping to get some more pods and try again.
They are in the bottom left hand side of the pic (in front of the Hawaiian wood rose vine)

There are cacao plantings here that are in full sun. The plants don't grow as tall as ones in partial shade. They should be established in partial shade though when small. Don't think cacao will fruit in full shade.
Oscar

MangoFang · « **Reply #13 on:** February 14, 2012, 10:41:43 PM »

I've seen an unknown mango growing on the northside of a two story apt. building
here in Palm Springs, and it looks very healthy, though I have not seen it
fruit yet.....but the tree looks to be doing well....and would certainly enjoy
the extra A/C moisture during the summer....

It's about 12 feet by 12 feet....

MFang

JF · « **Reply #14 on:** February 14, 2012, 11:54:36 PM »

Avocados do very well in partical shade.

JF

johnb51 · « **Reply #15 on:** February 15, 2012, 12:20:45 AM »

Quote from: JF on February 14, 2012, 11:54:36 PM

Avocados do very well in partical shade.

JF

Is that so? I never heard that before.

JF · « **Reply #16 on:** February 15, 2012, 12:35:28 AM »

Quote from: johnb51 on February 15, 2012, 12:20:45 AM

Quote from: JF on February 14, 2012, 11:54:36 PM
Avocados do very well in partical shade.

JF

Is that so? I never heard that before.

Yeap! I have three that are thriving in the northwest side of the house. I have lost two in a heatwave in full sun.

johnb51 · « **Reply #17 on:** February 15, 2012, 09:49:20 AM »

Banana plants?

happyisland · « **Reply #18 on:** February 15, 2012, 11:52:26 AM »

I've grown a few cavendish bananas in partial shade. The good news is that they survive, the bad news is that they grown incredibly slowly - to the point where it's hard to imagine that they'd ever fruit.

Cookie Monster · « **Reply #19 on:** February 15, 2012, 05:37:17 PM »

Carambola trees adapt pretty well to shady conditions. In order for the tree to fruit well it does need some sun, though probably not a lot.

FloridaGreenMan · « **Reply #20 on:** February 15, 2012, 07:09:46 PM »

Coffee, of course, does famously well in shade!

Mfajar · « **Reply #21 on:** February 16, 2012, 08:25:30 PM »

HELP! I have done my homework and I would like to try to grow the achacha and the garcinia intermedia. Problem is, I can't find them! I found 2 places in PR, but does anyone know of a place in Florida?

Cookie Monster · « **Reply #22 on:** February 16, 2012, 11:26:00 PM »

I'd just get them from PR. Montosogardens is phenomenal, and the prices are very reasonable. I got my achiacharu from them - very nice trees.

FlyingFoxFruits · « **Reply #23 on:** February 16, 2012, 11:29:29 PM »

Quote from: jeffhagen on February 15, 2012, 05:37:17 PM

Carambola trees adapt pretty well to shady conditions. In order for the tree to fruit well it does need some sun, though probably not a lot.

carambola always does best near us Central FL and fruits heavily, in 50% shade or more...you'd be surprised!!!

Wind exposed specimens are chlorotic, and unhealthy usually.

Others to put in shade of course are

Monstera deliciosa
miracle fruit
Jaboticaba
passion fruit (will fruit up your tree shading everything!)
other eugenia,
pawpaw
other annonas,
and more!

murahilin · « **Reply #24 on:** February 16, 2012, 11:59:41 PM »

Quote from: Mfajar on February 16, 2012, 08:25:30 PM

HELP! I have done my homework and I would like to try to grow the achacha and the garcinia intermedia. Problem is, I can't find them! I found 2 places in PR, but does anyone know of a place in Florida?

Patrick (Pj1881) has a grafted G. intermedia for sale. Excalibur in Lake Worth also has some larger grafted G. intermedia.

Harry, (HMHausman) may have some of the achachairu seedlings for sale. Not sure though. He may not be willing to part with his seedlings.

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Author Topic: What tropcal fruit tree to plant in mostly shade? (Read 17972 times)

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