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Heinrichi thank you for the photos, great job!
It's really a very rare species, and the spot on the edge of the beach where they were will be built a condominium, so they will remove the vegetation.

Unfortunately, the customs laws of Brazil have changed, and are not allowing the shipment of seeds abroad, so it will be more difficult to grow these species outside Brazil, or else we will need to create new methods of sending seeds.

Who bought Brazilian seeds made a good deal, because via mail, it will be very difficult to send.

Wilder species, such as some that I have offered in the TFF, will be more difficult to work on, because researching, traveling, exploring the forest, and even collecting partners, are no longer interested in looking for something in the forest, they will not be worth far too much. sending 2 or 3 seeds to pass through the customs, it will be a risk for the country to lose many species, but finally, they are things of government and they always think they are right.


Melanopsidium nigrum seed tray.

Today, I have potted my Melanopsidium nigrum seedlings. On my place, it is more or less cold for half of the year. Therefore, the plants are not expected to flower within the next 3 years. Alexandre, thank you for the seeds. 90 % germination.


Here in Brazil, I found this species twice, in the cities of Angra dos Reis and Paraty, state of Rio de Janeiro and at sea level, Atlantic forest. At the time I went behind information about a supposed Abiu Rambutan and found the trees, I only managed to collect seeds from the tree of the city of Paraty, because there were fruits at the time, they are doing very well here in Minas Gerais.

I think these trees in northeastern Brazil are also close to sea level. For these states generally have Atlantic forest only on the coastal plain, the rest of their territories, or they are transitional bands, or they are what we call Caatinga, which is a semi arid biome.


If you got the seeds from me they are originally from highlands Guatemala, so a sub tropical, and not surprising it survived. They have a wide range, so there are some that are more tropical. So all depends where you sourced them?

Oscar, is P. torta ssp gallifructa a highlands species in general, or does it just have a significant range?  I haven't come across any altitude data on it so far.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Uvaia Blossoming
« on: May 09, 2018, 10:05:16 AM »

From the photos, it seems to me common E.pyrifomis, I needed a photo of the whole plant, I never saw uvaia cultivated in the shade, always in full sun, even in the forest, they get huge disputing sun with other trees.

99 percent of the Uvaia are sour, they vary a lot, on the shape and the flavor generally, it is good but sour, it reminds me of the taste of Eugenia Spitata (Araca Boi), There is a hybrid of E Pyriformis x E Lutecens, which is sweet , but nothing like some guys talk about sweet as honey, is acidic.

All these fruits have a characteristic of rapid fermentation, do not serve to store their pulp, or make juices to consume many hours later, and as soon as you remove the fruit from the tree it becomes soft, almost liquified.

You can make juices, jellies and ice creams, once a Taiwanese asked me for 2,000 Uvaia seeds, to plant and sell the fruit in the supermarket, like a fresh fruit, I made a video at the time explaining about this fermentation characteristics and he gave up this huge amount.

It is a fruit very attacked by the fruit fly.

I really like this tree, it's a wild tree where I live, and every place it varies a lot, in the shape of the fruit and in the flavor.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Question on cashews
« on: May 09, 2018, 09:49:14 AM »

This video features a clone of True Dwarf Cashew, developed by the Brazilian government, the video is in Portuguese, more to get an idea, look at the 2:37 minute, the board informs the date of planting, March 2003 and see the size of plants.

On the color of the cashew be better one or the other, this is relative, there are good yellows and good reds, practically all the anacardium occidentalis are astringent even. The sweetest cashews are usually the Cajuís, which may be less than 1 m high, but it is difficult to grow outside the original Biomes.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Wild Plinia Phitrantha?
« on: March 28, 2018, 02:37:59 PM »

Would this species be a wild species of Plinia Phitrantha?
A friend of mine collected these fruits in a forest and according to him the tree is 10 m high, and looks a lot like Plinia Phitranta leaves.
According to him, the fruits were very sweet and tasty, but no more detailed photos were possible because it rained at the time of collection.
Anyone have any ideas on ID?

We followed the work behind collecting dark plinias and without ID!


This species of jaracatia the seed has been alive for more than a year!

And the seedlings grow crazy fast! It is a very tasty fruit, already that Annona I ate and I found bad, it has a taste of brine, but worth as a collection item, good sales.

Fruits were harvested from the peruvian jungle. Shipped them to cali. Picked the fruits a month ago. Trees grow close to the rio de madre dios. Lowland jungle.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: fruit fly and jaboticaba?
« on: March 28, 2018, 09:31:04 AM »
It really is rare for the fruit fly to attack jabuticabas, it happens more rarely, usually those who damage the jabuticabas here are the birds and the ants, eventually when very mature other insects can cause damage.


Thanks for the return on the seeds, Plinia Peruviana really is a species for great collectors like you!

It will be a pleasure to send new materials to you and to everyone, lately I have been working with weird species, off the curve! Often people are afraid to buy because they are very unknown, but all material of good quality and taste, But I have many other more common species, those who have interest, I can provide as well.

In November I will visit Plinia Peruviana again, and I should make a video about the tasting of the fruit.

Thank you.


Is also a eugenics, but Ubaia is a very common name for several fruit trees in Brazil, Ubaia Rubi is from the Amazonia and Ubaia Pitanga Feijoa, is from restingas restricted to the northeast coast of Brazil

Is Yellow Ubaia a sister-species with Red/Ruby Ubaia (E. patrisii)?



Available seeds of Eugenia Azeda

Eugenia azeda, common name Ubaia yellow, or Pitanga Feijoa.

It is a yellow fruit with an acidic taste. It reminds you of the taste of the pitanga and feijoa, very fragrant, very delicious to make drinks like Caipirinha, small compact tree, easy to grow, many white flowers, rare opportunity to have seeds at a good price.

About freight, postage prices and etc, save time and see the attached link.

The postings will be held every Thursday because I live far from the city and only have that date to go to the post office.

All posts will follow Tracking Number.

Selling at least 10 seeds.

Price: Eugenia azeda 3 USD

Questions, use pm or send an email to

Thank you

Seeds available from Plinia Grandifolia to Plinia Aureana, material different from what is already outside of Brazil.

Plinia Grandifolia from seeds collected in 2004, Matrix originated from Minas Gerais, what exists outside of Brazil the Matrix are from Rio de Janeiro, then they are different fruits, sweet fruits, similar flavor to Feijoa (Acca Selowiana), excellent pulp / seed, great chance for collectors.

Plinia Aureana, a native type of my region, we do not have a specific name for the variety, very good tasting, lots of water and flavor that resembles a mixture of jabuticaba with Cymbopogon citratus, deliciously refreshing.

About freight, prices of mails and etc, save time and look at the attached link.

The postings will be held every Thursday, because I live far from the city and only have that date to go to the post office.

All posts will follow with Tracking Number.

Selling minimum 10 seeds.

Price: Plinia Grandifolia 5 USD per seed and Plinia Aureana 3 USD per seed. both species required 7 years for first fruits.

Doubts please use pm or email

Thank you


It is a complicated plant to grow, even in other regions of Brazil, a tip I can provide is that it does not grow in pots, or they will die or they will be years of the same size, so once the seeds germinate the ideal is to plant in definite place and with plenty of sun.

Other details that I have said previously, these plants of the cerrado do not like these commercial soils, these lands prepared, the ideal mixture is 80 percent sieved common and 20 percent sand. It is suitable for all species.

About Uvaia, I do not see any relation with cagaita, they are totally distinct plants, cagaita already remember more fruits of cerrado, hard leaves.

About diarrhea, who collected the first time ate fallen fruit on the ground and fermented, if they are at the correct maturation point does not have any kind of problem.


I do not know if you have already noticed, here we have common abius, we do not select varieties, but we have a custom, strange more right!

We only planted in the definitive place the seedlings that have light green leaves! they are earlier, the seedlings born with dark green leaf, we used as rootstock, I think it's a very old custom here in the region and really what has dark green leaves will take many years to bear fruit!

I grow Abiu in SW Florida and one of my trees, a seedling of Z4, fruited in 3 years from seed. I plant them in the ground when they are 6 to 7 feet tall because they are cold sensitive when they are young. They get water every single day, and some organic fertilizer once or twice a year.
Some abius will not fruit by itself and requires another tree next to it for cross pollination. That’s my experience with Abiu here in SW Florida.


Yes, they live inside the forest with lots of humidity, and they exist in swampy places, especially in the Amazon.

Generally I use 200 g per year of potassium chloride so that all sapotaceas that I cultivate form fruits, the abiu can have flowers for several years without fruit formation.

Vulcanic Brazil ???

They're good here for the simple fact of being native! They are born spontaneously in the forest, both Atlantic Forest and Ana Amazonian Forest

Have you seen these grow in wet/flooded areas?

Vulcanic Brazil ???

They're good here for the simple fact of being native! They are born spontaneously in the forest, both Atlantic Forest and Ana Amazonian Forest

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Are Jaboticabas true to seed?
« on: March 01, 2018, 09:10:02 AM »

You will know here in Brazil vary a lot, they can have lots of sweets, big fruits, small, thick bark, thin bark, acidulated, maybe you have in your country seeds from the same matrices,

About RED Hybrid, they really do seem stable to me.

I would take care of some varieties of jabuticaba that bloom at the same time and can be planted together in the same orchard, maybe in the future this will generate a lot of random hybrids.

Many varieties of jabuticaba originated here in Brazil by geographic isolation, but by planting everything in an orchard there may be mixtures in my opinion.


Duguetia riedeliana, seeds that I gave to friends in August of 2017, began their germination without any kind of chemical treatment. Dugetias are sometimes slow to germinate, secret is to be patient!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: can you ID this big brazilian seeds?
« on: February 24, 2018, 10:11:59 AM »

Terminalias both foreign and Brazilian, are slow to germinate, this almond here is born spontaneous, but planting without any treatment, they take about 120 days to germinate, you can break and plant the almond that exists inside the fruit, but it is possible that it rotted!

This amandoa has two varieties here, sweeter yellow fruits and more acidic red fruits and smaller fruits. You can use the pulp to make juice, it is a tall tree, 12 to 14 m, and it has aggressive roots!

VEry thanks

would you give us some advice in how to sprout them?

Terminalia catappa

Hi, a friend got some seeds from a person who came from Brazil and gave them to him... she said the seeds are red inside if you brake them:

5 cm diameter

and the person said that at Brazil they call it just "almond", amendoa

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: can you ID this big brazilian seeds?
« on: February 24, 2018, 07:58:21 AM »

Terminalia catappa

Hi, a friend got some seeds from a person who came from Brazil and gave them to him... she said the seeds are red inside if you brake them:

5 cm diameter

and the person said that at Brazil they call it just "almond", amendoa


I'm riding an irrigation system here in southeastern Brazil, I have 1500 mm of rainfall a year, but my winter is dry, cold and windy, dehydrated plants, I want to use drip, which flow would you recommend me for each Score?

I'm seeing drippers of 4 and 10 liters per hour, is that enough?

I do not use mulchi because I have many snakes and they love to stay under the mulchi

Thank you!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Abiurana
« on: February 15, 2018, 05:24:46 PM »
For me it is difficult to evaluate the photo of the site, I was on an expedition and we found Pouteria Bullata, it has wavy leaves, well marked, brown flowers, rust color, the fruit darkens quickly, the pulp is a bit dry with large seed, a light taste of milk and sugar.

By the photo I think it is a Regular Pouteria Torta, but as I said, ABIURANA is a generic name here in Brazil, several pouterias we use this name, Guapeva, Guapeba, Bapeba, Bapeva ... all this generates doubts giant!

I'm just saying this to friend, do not buy one kind and get another!

Oh, interesting.  I am hoping for the Abiurana that is slightly more cold tolerant than Abiu, as described here:

Is that what you have?

If Helton has it correctly labeled as bullata, then probably mine is different, as i think it is torta. But if Nelesedulis is correct, then bullata is not very good tasting, and the one i have is quite good. Don't know about its cold tolerance.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Abiurana
« on: February 14, 2018, 01:38:51 PM »

Which species are you looking for?

Abiurana is a generic name, many species for similar but very different fruits!

Reviving this old thread, is anyone still growing abiurana or does anyone know of a source of seeds?  Thanks!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Campomanesia schlechtendaliana
« on: February 13, 2018, 08:46:39 PM »

Another species that has bigger fruits and very good is the Campomanesia Laurifolia, I think the fruit is about 4 cm in diameter or larger, but it takes a lot to fruition, the flavor is sweet and refreshing. Already a common tree in my region today is more rare.

Pallilo is also very good for making juice and eating, there are other good Gabirobas (Campomanesia for you foreigners), but many are without identification and there is a huge variability among the species, huge variation between the sizes of trees and fruits, existing trees from 10 m to 40 cm shrubs. I usually pretend that gabiroba is the fruit of a child from the countryside, when we are children we love gabirobas and jabuticabas, then we grow into adults and few people without them.

Hi, congrats!!! Campomanesia is one if my favourites genous. The leaves are similar to c. lineatifolia, chamba, and the fruit obviously is similar to many campomanesias, but it remembers me sete capotes specially, c. guazumifolia. This last one tastes like an orange but with sand apple texture to me, and when it is overripe it tastes like jaboticaba. But, yes, you can say it tastes a bit like pear, very nice.

I dont have schlechtendaliana, is it too tropical? I grow guazumifolia, lineatifolia and xanthocarpa.

It is growing well here in Hawaii.

I notice it  gets tastier if I let it get soft on table.  Much better than i expected.  Wish it was bigger fruit!

Yes, there are bigger campomanesia fruits, chamba is one of those

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lychee grafted onto Longan?
« on: February 11, 2018, 06:42:20 PM »

Great experience.

I would like information and the reverse is possible?

I have adult lychee trees, but eventually, they suffer attack from the erinose mite, I wanted to use the adult and strong lychee trees to graft longans is this possible?

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