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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: psidium to ID
« on: February 20, 2019, 04:36:46 AM »
Mine flowered this fall, just before I had to bring it in for winter. So in the end it didn’t set any fruit with the winter coming. Maybe next year... The plant is doing very well and has the characteristics of P Salutare - a big fleshy root in which it stores water and thin floppy branches with big guava like leaves that crawl around rather than grow upward. It is pretty easy, takes full sun and can handle drought pretty well. I only had a couple of seeds germinate out of 40 seeds. I think the seeds may need cold stratification or have some other mechanism that prevents quick germination. You may want to make two batches and put one in the fridge for two months. Since I have just one plant left I haven’t tested it’s cold hardiness. I want it to fruit first.
Good luck!

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Tree planted too shallowly (?)
« on: January 21, 2019, 06:03:58 AM »
I don’t think it is anything you should worry about. I was always taught that it is much better, (or just good) to plant a tree the way you did, a little above the original soil level. This will form a good root flare and trees are naturally well able to cope with soil that settles or compacts under their roots - they just grow deeper roots and the crown lignifies and covers itself with bark.
While the other way around is much more damaging, if you plant a tree too deep the bark above the crown doesn’t have the ability to fight off molds and fungi when covered in wet soil all the time.

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Nice harvest, Marcos! I received all the seeds in excellent condition and very well packed last week. Thank you very much and good growing!

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Arrayán, Luma apiculata
« on: December 29, 2018, 03:41:24 PM »
Zpusher: Yes they are carefree once in the ground for me in zone 8b, I should have seeds in September, if my plant flowers this year. If you remind me then I can send you some.

Heinrich: Yes, it is doing pretty good. Arven is willing to ship internationally they told me, but you have to email them first, because their website cannot calculate international shipping costs.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Arrayán, Luma apiculata
« on: December 13, 2018, 09:35:32 AM »
Hi Heinrich,

That is a beautiful plant, thank you for sharing your experience with it. I have a Luma Chequen in the ground for the second year now and it has taken -8 last year in a series of 3 nights and 2 days in which the temperature didn't come above 0 Celsius. It didn't flower this year, but it did the first year, and the fruits are sweet and delicious, althoug the seeds are quite large for a beryy to eat, and the skin has some bitterness in it, so I bite them and suck out the pulp and spit out the seeds and skin. It also flowered in June and had fruits ripen in September

I had only one Luma Apiculata, bought here in the Netherlands. That plant flowered continuously and had, as you say always both fruits and flowers on it. It wasn't that cold hardy though, and I lost it two winters ago. The quality of the fruit was very bad, though. Mostly just skin and seeds and biterness. Arven pepiniere in France has made a selection for edibility, they sent me one plant last year, but it didn't survive the post...
http://www.arven-boutique.com/15-litre/451-luma-apiculata-arven-.html

I'll try to get another plant of them next spring, in the hope that it will survive.

Solko


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It can fruit in 3 years from seed is my experience.

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Miguel.pt from Portugal has selected better larger fruited strains from both the red and yellow varieties. Try to get some seeds from him.

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Beautiful looking fruit, Marcos! Another very nice find. Did the vendor say how many years it takes to fruit?

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Congratulations, Kevin! That’s amazing! It’s a very very cool looking fruit! What was the taste like?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tree ID... ¿Blepharocalyx salicifolius?
« on: August 28, 2018, 03:20:20 PM »




These are my Blepharocalyx. They look totally different, I have no idea what your plant might be.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tree ID... ¿Blepharocalyx salicifolius?
« on: August 27, 2018, 03:02:43 AM »
That doesn’t look like Blepharocalyx Salicifolius to me. I have some seedlings, also from Vitor, they have much smaller leaves. I’ll post a picture this week. The leaves do smell very nice, but I haven’t had it fruit yet.

I have no idea as to what your plant might be, but I would say definitely not Blepharocalyx Salicifolius.

Anyone else any suggestions?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: ID please...
« on: July 31, 2018, 03:38:38 AM »
Looks like Guabiju, Myrcianthes Pungens.
Congratulations on the first fruits!

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Hi Heinrich,

Thank you for sharing your experience and adding some extra data points. Your story sort of confirms my expectations and I had a very similar thing happen to me, except that last year from 10 seeds that I planted in March three sprouted, but only in August, after the pot had been half forgotten and given up on and had dried out and been rewatered several times during the hot summer. I was quite surprised to see them sprout after such a long time, hot temperatures and these cycles of drying out and rehydrating, and so I guessed that they might be more temperate in their nature and benefit from some sort of stratification process. Could be cold stratification or could be by drying and rehydrating. The ones that are sprouting now over here have been in pots that I have allowed to dry out slightly before rewatering them again.
A third seedling is sprouting now.
Good luck with the seeds of this year. I won’t throw the ones away that don’t sprout this year, but keep them til next!




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Here an update on the seeds of C Guazumifolia.

In April I received from Marcos two seeds that were dried and eight seeds that were kept moist. Both batches were sown in a small container with normal potting soil and placed in a small germinator with bottom heat in front of a window.

They both did absolutely nothing for months, while all my other Myrtaceae seeds sprouted and grew away.

And then last week out of nothing one seedling emerged from each pot. Two or three days apart from each other.
So far 1 out of the 2 dried seeds germinated and 1 out of the 8 moist seeds. They just really seem to take their time. 3 months at least.

Very happy to have these going and as I suspected they might be pretty ok with drying out.

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Vitiga, That is a very nice looking plant, how old is it?

I have collected seeds from a couple of different regions and in my limited experience there seem to be 3 general leaf types: long and hairy, large and small. But sweetness of the fruit seems to be a totally independent trait. In all three types there are people who claim to have a ‘sweet’ type. And that would make sense, in apples and peaches sweetness is also not correlated to leaf type or growth habit.
The only correlation I have seen so far is that the large leaves type with downy leaves is extremely vigorous and grows into a very large tree. The others are much easier to grow in pots.

So there is no way to tell what you have until you taste it!

The tree in your picture definitely looks like an Uvaia, I would classify it in the medium to small leaves-type, it probably doesn’t have any down or fuzz on the leaves, am I right? The fruits may turn out round or pear-shaped. You’ll just have to wait and see. Please report back when you have fruit!

Grapebush: I’ll send you the link

Solko

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Grapebush: Yes, I got your post on Facebook, that is terrible what happened. They have small greenhouses here that you can fix to the wall on your balcony, I will send you a link soon, that might be a good idea to protect your plants. I have been able to overwinter these ones inside last winter, next winter they go into an I heated greenhouse, so I don’t know if they’ll still look as good this time next year. ???

Cassio: thank you for the extra information. It seems the trees from your seeds remain a little bit smaller than some of the others. They didn’t set any fruit this year, but if they bloom again next year, I hope they will. If the fruit turns out to be to sour for my taste - I have never tasted any Uvaia yet - I will still keep these ones and try to cross them with a sweeter type. I think the fast fruiting is a very attractive trait in these rare fruits!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: P Tang
« on: May 16, 2018, 04:26:32 PM »
Hahaha, mine doesn’t do that... ;D

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What a beautiful plant! Mine loses all its leaves every spring, but I have it exposed to frost every winter as well... I hope it fruits soon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: A wealth of different types of Uvaia
« on: April 24, 2018, 03:57:39 PM »
Update:

Cassio, it seems that your own plant gives seedlings that flower just as fast as Heinrich’s plant.
We have an absolute winner in terms of precocity here: the Uvaia’s I got from Cassio just over a year ago. Two of the three surviving seedlings flowered within 15 months of planting the seeds. That is pretty incredible, also when you consider that they are the smallest variety of Uvaia that I have. The seedlings were pretty chlorotic and sensitive at the beginning and a few of them died, but that has probably more to do with the soil and conditions I am able to give them. I kept them out of direct sun. Nonetheless three healthy plants survived of that batch and I am pretty impressed. I hope they will set some fruit, but you have a unique mother plant there, Cassio!

I am posting an update here, same plants, one year later...


These are the different types I have



Giant Type - Velvety leaves


Large type - velvety leaves


Regular type - velvety leaves


Round type from HuertasUrbanas - hairless leaves


Dwarf type from Cassio - small hairless leaves and flowers after 15 months from seed!


Close up of the first flower on one plant


Close up of a cluster of three flowers on a second plant from Cassio


Hope you like the pictures!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Innarched and grafted Jaboticaba trees
« on: April 05, 2018, 07:46:09 AM »
Fantastic result of a beautiful experiment.
It is really good to see one of your experiments paying off - and then so quickly as well. I have been following all your double rootstock experiments with great interest and like to experiment a lot myself. Most often to find that things don't really have the expected result. But this is great!
Thank you for posting! And ood luck on all the other experiments

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My experience with E Dysenterica is that it is so hard to germinate and keep alive that it is hard to tell what kills it when it is young; city water, the sun, soil ph or other preferences like temperature and humidity - and it doesn't like small pots. As a seedling it is, like many Myrtaceae, very slow growing. Full trees seem to get quite large and obviously thrive in full sun. I've only seen large trees as singular trees - it doesn't show wether that tree grew up as a seedling in the shade of other bushes and then outgrew them.
As to the claim that it acts as a laxative, I have no firsthand experience eating the fruit, but it has the shortest possible shelf life - you have to eat it straight of the tree or it starts to ferment. That can probably account for it's nickname. There are a lot of better alternatives out there in order to wind up drunk on the toilet  ;)

For E pyriformis I can confirm that there are varieties that are extremely slow growing - when young - and others that grow pretty fast, from barely 10 cm in the first year to around 60 cm.

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Yes, that is a great idea. But it also may be a good experiment to dry a few seeds at the same time and rehydrate them after a month. I don’t really understand what makes them germinate. I tried 3 times to germinate a batch of five to ten seeds of these. Fresh seeds in a small container with bottom heat, like I germinate all Myrtaceae. But twice nothing came up and the last time it took them 2 to 4 months for three to germinate, of which two died.
It is an interesting Campomanesia because it grows in colder climates with some sort of winter, so I started wondering wether it needs a small cool period, or even to be dried and rehydrated to start germinating. If you could do a small experiment with three different batches of seeds - if you have enough seeds, that would be very helpful to figure this out.

Feijoa and Ugni - the other coldhardy Myrtaceae all tolerate to be dried and rehydrated. But they do sprout better when just freshly sown.

Enjoy the fruits!

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Great review!
I'm really looking forward to grow this one. They are hard to come by in Europe and seed germination is not very predictable.

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I think the Pitanga do cerrado is a different botanical species with a dwarf habit and often a slightly different type of leaves. The one you have looks like Eugenia Uniflora to me, but I am not a botanist.
When you offer seeds for sale it is often helpful to say upfront how sure you are of the identification or wether you are just guessing. There are a lot of varieties of Eugenia Uniflora out there and they can be very different looking from one another. Some of them are reportedly very good!

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That looks great! And a beautiful Uvaia!

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