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on young rootstock, I would cut leaves off leaving small tips, induce growth hormone, then do a side veneer to the rootstock. I have done side veneer where budwood was twice as thick as rootstock, all you do is your cut on budwood is thinner to match rootstock cut thickness.

When you say thinner do you mean a more shallow cut? As in taking less material off of the scion?

Simon kind of covered it. I would add that fruit punch grows extremely well for me here in orange.

Kesar however is always flowering with minimal vegetative growth. I have 2 branches that are growing from around the graft union that are probably kesar and not suckers but hats about it For growth. Otherwise it has slowly been dying back or flowering for 18 months.

Orange sherbet is growing like lz for me. Loving the heat.

I had constant flowering with a mallika (on turpentine) and then it just died.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Brutal heatwave 7/06/18 in Socal
« on: July 12, 2018, 10:44:09 PM »
The worst sun damage ive seen on guava is to the fruit on the exposed side and some minor damage to leaves. The seem to be be very resilient trees.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango grafting question
« on: July 07, 2018, 03:25:54 PM »
I completely agree with wslau. As long as the nightly average lows are above 62F, you shouldn’t have to worry about flowering on the new push. I like to protect newly grafted scions from direct sun if temps are predicted to be above 90F. The first couple weeks are extremely critical and the scion/graft Union has to be protected. Direct sun on the union can cause evaporation even under the buddy tape/parafilm and condensation can cause mold or rot.


Would wrapping the graft union in white poly tape enough protection?

For regular decidous grafts i usually do full parafilm wrap of union and scion. Then wrap the union in white poly budding tape.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango grafting question
« on: July 07, 2018, 11:08:09 AM »
Resurrecting this topic in order to keep info that is very related in one thread so that posterity can find the answer in one thread instead of having to search through multiple.

What is the absolute max temperature that will be beneficial to grafting?

Im asking because my area is in the midst of a heat wave 119F, 104F,101F, 98F (in the 90s for the near future).

Would grafting in 119F be advisable? 100F? 95F? 90F? 85?

What minimum night time temperature is best? Thanks.

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: What's infecting my apple tree?
« on: July 05, 2018, 12:17:26 PM »
Looks like aphids to me. Blast off with hose.

Temperate Fruit Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: Wanted: variegated citrus
« on: June 29, 2018, 09:26:28 AM »
Idk if they will ship internationally but you could check out the CCPP riverside citrus program.

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Stone fruits?
« on: June 28, 2018, 09:33:02 AM »
My stone fruits have all been disappointments. It seems the ones that flowered and fruited heavily last year have no fruit set this year. Inca plum looks to be my only constant producer. Some are still young but the majority are eyeing the chopping block to be replaced by sub-tropicals.

I experienced the same this year with all stone fruit. Last year it was loaded, branch breaking, needed to be thinned multiple times. This year i got maybe 10 plums on a 5 yr old tree and maybe 20 nectarines on 4 yr old tree. Im thinking that heat wave in january followed by cool weather really messed up the fruit production for me.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tamarind in CA?
« on: May 11, 2018, 07:41:56 PM »
Here is what the california rare fruit growers have to say about it .

As far as i am aware, there is no restrictions on Mango scions. I believe Mango plants with soil/roots require phytosanitary inspection.


Thanks. It us socal folks much greater range of options to be able to buy budwood from florida.

Maybe pomegrantes? Possibly opuntia (nopales) the prickly pear is decent fruit, really refreshing, but nothing special. Im about 20 mi inland from downtown LA and mature tropical guavas trees seem to be very drought tolerant. Young trees need to be watered.

Its hard to pick no irrigation trees because we get all our rain in winter/early spring and we usually dont get rain in the summer months.

Is there any risk of dept of agriculture in CA confiscating plant material?

Keo savoy is a popular Thai mango. It is crunchy and sweet when eaten still green, it  is soft and sweet when eaten ripe. It is flowering right now. I want to sell it for $70.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sweet Tart Budwood Graft
« on: April 25, 2018, 09:02:19 AM »
Hope you have success with your grafted Sweet Tart. From my own experience, mango grafts are most successful from late July to Early September when temperatures are highest and both the scion and rootstock are in full bud swell and growth mode.

Here is a recent photo of my Sweet Tart mango tree blooming on manila rootstock. I grafted this Sweet Tart in Late July 2016 and it has grown quite nicely over the past 1 1/2 years. The Bottom Photo is my Coconut Cream Mango Tree which was grafted to a manila seedling in late August 2016.


Is it normal for leaves to be that yellow during this time of year in CA?

Its still under patent until 2020 i believe. Also, you might have more luck in the temperate fruit section.

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Mulberry Thread.
« on: March 30, 2018, 10:54:06 AM »
Guys, don't let cuttings make fruit.  Snip that stuff off.  All energy needs to be diverted to making roots.

Thanks i did end up clipping them off. Amazing how many i had to take off. But for curiosity sake, would the fruit developed had i left them on and would the quality be any good?

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Stone fruits?
« on: March 30, 2018, 08:17:11 AM »
It seems all my trees are behind almost a month compared to last year. Arctic star has sporadic blooming.

Very good video thanks for sharing.

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Mulberry Thread.
« on: March 24, 2018, 11:21:29 AM »
Started mulberry cuttings a month ago. All except two are pushing leaves. However, i noticed that some of the cuttings are developing fruit. Should i pick these off, will they drop on their own, or will the fruit develop?

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: CRYSTAL Seedless Guava Scions
« on: February 28, 2018, 08:30:31 AM »
If you like big, crunchy and sweet guavas, this is it. Crystal is the best guava, this variety fruits all season long. It is so good that i had to top worked all of my guava trees to this variety. Get yours before it is too late.

Thanks for the scions xue :)

Any tips on top working guavas? Green wood on green wood? Green scion on semi hard/hard? Hard/semi hard scion on green wood? Hard/semi hard on hard/semi hard?

It can flower at any time so long as it’s warm enough, but you’ll get a lot of blooms around May.


This has also been my experience. Poms are some of the latest blooming fruits in my orchard, with guavas being last.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Guava Grafting (top work)
« on: February 16, 2018, 04:24:02 PM »
I saw new growth coming from my guava, and I top worked it using bark grafts in January. They are pushing now, I will try to post pics when I get home.

Interesting. How thick is the bark on new guava growth. It seems like its difficult because guava new growth is very tender and floppy making cuts a challenge. Really interested in seeing pics.

What varieties do you have?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Guava Grafting (top work)
« on: February 15, 2018, 02:26:39 PM »
Do you think the cold snap we are about to enter will be detrimental to success rate? Also should i try to get greenwood and graft to greenwood?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Guava Grafting (top work)
« on: February 15, 2018, 11:56:02 AM »
I would wait until Spring when you see the tree your going to graft flushing new growth! ;)

I actually topped it in october so it has soft growth right now. i hope this cold snap is short so we can get back to 75-80F weather. Thanks..

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