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whew....8.2 makes me not feel so bad.
but 5.9 makes me jealous  ;D

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Yes youíre thinking of Fairchild Tropical Botanical Garden in Miami area. They have a durian tree in the Whitman pavilion. I donít think anyone has fruited durian in the US. But, you can usually find frozen durian at Asian markets, either whole fruits or small packages of seedless flesh. Itís not as good as fresh but itís still fun. Like any fruit, sometimes you get a dud.

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Cool!
If you like white sapote you will like pawpaw. Pawpaw is very custardy (though some are firmer like a great mango). And it can have vanilla/caramel flavors. I have even thought at times thereís a jackfruit resemblance but not so sure.
I have had ones that taste like durian too, and others have reported this. Durian is one of my absolute favorite fruits.
Pawpaws are cool because theyíre 2 fruits in one: they start off fruity, but if you let it ripen longer, get very dark, the flavor changes to an amazing caramel/butterscotch/flan. I like them more on this end.

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Good deal! And good luck!

Itís exciting to try a fruit for the first time, especially when itís a native like pawpaw. I remember early in my obsession with them how stoked I was.
Itís a very interesting fruit, pretty unique. But for someone spoiled on the great exotics, it might not be too exciting. Still, itís amazing considering itís native and temperate.

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Pawpaw would be an interesting experiment. I have seen at least Asimina species, can't confirm Asimina triloba, in Santa Rosa Beach/Watercolor, etc.
You may not get enough chill hours there for fruit, but hard to say.
If you can get any of Peterson Pawpaw's varieties, or Overleese, KSU-Chappell, Sunflower.  Mango purportedly does well in hotter climates but i don't know if that's true.
G2gardens.com sells Peterson varieties and Mango and Overleese and more.
Hidden Springs Nursery sells the KSU varieties, Mango, Overleese, Sunflower and more.

Secondly, i'm not really aware of any other cold-hardy passiflora that has fruit worth eating. Maypop is your best bet and I think very tasty.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sourcing tree pots
« on: February 11, 2019, 02:44:52 PM »
you might want to ask your landscaper (if you use one). They tend to have access to free extras.

Good point. Here, Lowe's stacks used pots on a particular rack and they're free for the taking. They do tend to be mostly smaller pots, though, in my limited experience. Your mileage may vary.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: How thick woodchips layer under mango tree
« on: February 11, 2019, 02:43:35 PM »
Hi guys, how thick can one go regarding woodchips under a mango tree? 8 inches is too much?
The soil 3 feet around the tree is clay but has been mulched for the past two years and the texture is already improved compared to the surrounding soil.



Mango or not, I would say 8 inches is at least 4 inches too much.
The roots need air, 8 inches would tend to greatly restrict that in my opinion/experience.

I got woodchip-happy once and i paid the price.  In my opinion, you want only as much mulch as it takes to suppress weeds and retain some moisture in the soil (depending on your conditions/rainfall/irrigation).

Too much mulch is definitely a risk, as is too little (for young plants in hot/dry conditions especially).

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sourcing tree pots
« on: February 11, 2019, 02:39:28 PM »
I've ordered direct from Steuwe & Sons and also have gotten stuff from Greenhouse Megastore.com

Happy with both.

Good luck

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Florida Prince peach
« on: February 09, 2019, 09:27:34 AM »
LOL!!
Many thanks!!

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Florida Prince peach
« on: February 08, 2019, 04:15:07 PM »
CA is a big place but here no, I don't spray at all.  This tree takes almost no effort and makes hundreds of peaches every year.

Wow that's awesome!!!!!!!!  Enjoy that, man. My friend has planted a couple hundred peach trees as a commercial orchard and has so much spraying equipment and supplies, it's crazy.

BTW - what kind of trail cam do you have? I have been meaning to invest in one but there are so many on Amazon with (likely) fake reviews......

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Florida Prince peach
« on: February 08, 2019, 04:00:02 PM »
I adore peaches but at least here in TN you have to spray them constantly to get a crop.
Same in CA?
I wouldn't have the patience....

Pawpaw - the lazy man's peach  ;D

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This is looking to be a great mango year for my area at least.

Happy for y'all - enjoy!

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Man, that stinks.....sorry guys. Good luck

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: New variety of Durians for $1000 each
« on: January 29, 2019, 11:57:55 AM »
Smells like a hoax

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Tree planted too shallowly (?)
« on: January 21, 2019, 12:22:17 PM »
Right on. Yeah IME it can sometimes be hard to tell the soil level.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Tree planted too shallowly (?)
« on: January 21, 2019, 11:26:17 AM »
Most of my pawpaws were this way when they were delivered to me. I think the soil level stuff is about the right concentrations of oxygen to the feeder roots. You didn't uncover any of those so I wouldn't worry about it.

Do you mean potted pawpaws you bought looked like this in the container?

Yeah, I think I will leave it. It made it through the first year fine. Thereís a remote chance the winter could damage these exposed roots but if so, itíll just replace them underground Iíd think.

I have heard it said that pawpaws can tolerate ďtoo deepĒ planting more than other species, but who knows.

Thanks!

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Tree planted too shallowly (?)
« on: January 21, 2019, 08:21:44 AM »
Thank you!!

Most feedback Iíve received agrees with you.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tree planted too shallow?
« on: January 19, 2019, 01:48:41 PM »
Thanks guys!
Usually I tend to be a ďfixerĒ when it comes to plants but in this case Iím strangely feeling like letting it go. Weíll see...

PS yes I agree in general better to be shallow than deep.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Tree planted too shallow?
« on: January 19, 2019, 12:07:51 PM »
In the spring of 2018 I planted this one year old Asimina triloba seedling.

I guess I was a little sloppy and didnít get it deep enough and/or the potting mix settled a bit.

Either way, some roots are exposed near the base of the trunk.

The tree seems healthy enough - it doubled in size in its first year in the ground.

The roots have mostly lignified by now.

Any reason to do anything about this, and if so, what would it be?





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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Tree planted too shallowly (?)
« on: January 19, 2019, 10:26:43 AM »
In the spring of 2018 I planted this one year old pawpaw seedling.

I guess I was a little sloppy and didnít get it deep enough and/or the potting mix settled a bit.

Either way, some roots are exposed near the base of the trunk.

The tree seems healthy enough - it doubled in size in its first year in the ground.

The roots have mostly lignified by now.

Any reason to do anything about this, and if so, what would it be?





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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Are there any low-light fruiting plants?
« on: January 17, 2019, 01:53:29 PM »
Maybe not a large amount of fruit and the fruit is more of a novelty, but Monstera deliciosa/Ceriman grows in heavy to dappled shade.
Plants are available at garden centers I got a $10 pot at Home Depot which divided up into 10 new plants. They may take a year or more to mature and a year to ripen after flowering.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRL6xzDmiJY

Thatís what I was going to suggest. Donít know if Iíd put them in a novelty category, have you eaten one?  I mean I get why you might, but OMG one of the best tasting fruits Iíve ever eaten.

Agree - Monstera is great eatin' in my opinion

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Oolie, Can you share sources for this information?

pemmican, a Native American food, I would consider an aged protein.
From Wikipedia: ďTraditionally, pemmican was prepared from the lean meat of large game such as bison, elk, deer, or moose. The meat was cut in thin slices and dried, either over a slow fire or in the hot sun until it was hard and brittle. . . The resulting mixture was then packed into rawhide bags for storage. It can be stored for a maximum of 10 years.ď

Certainly caution should always be exercised when taking any medicinal substance, herbal or Otherwise

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I recently posted this question to OurFigs.com but wanted to tap the brain trust here too....

I recently went to dig-up a dormant Celeste fig that was in the ground for 2 summers (unfortunately I didn't plan well and need to move it).

I found that 4 of the shoots, 1-inch+ in diameter each, had rooted themselves into the mulch and organic matter just clear of the main root crown.

I carefully cut the shoots from the main crown and unearthed as many of their own roots as i could - each had a fairly significant root system of its own. I trimmed the cuttings to about 10 inches or so in total length. (is this too long for the cuttings?)

I chucked them in pots with a peat/bark "nursery" style potting mix and wrapped the exposed shoots in parafilm.

My main question is----what now? Should I bring them indoors to a room-temp environment and or keep them more 40-50 degree temps until spring?

I really don't know what i'm doing  ;D

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Best Persimmon tree to buy
« on: December 30, 2018, 06:40:05 PM »
Rojo Brillante is astringent. And widely regarded as one of the best.
And available here in the US. Just Fruits and Exotics carries them in the fall.

If you dont have Saijo yet, it is a MUST HAVE. Also astringent and exceptionally flavored. Another one to have is Nikita's gift: which has a rich flavor and also very sweet.

Dumb question-How big do these get?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dense passion fruit planting
« on: December 19, 2018, 01:46:23 PM »
Good to know that members are successfully growing different varieties of passion fruit vines as close as 2'. I am planning to plant purple (Federick) and yellow varieties 2-3' apart above ground with open bottom rootbuilder II pots, and let them grow on 2'x70' privacy fence.

I should point out - one big difference with incarnata is that it dies back to the ground every winter. So my space concerns are only limited to what it can do in one summer.

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