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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: White Sapote Scion for sale/trade
« on: August 17, 2018, 12:22:37 PM »
I do have tree's for sale , 5 gallon for $40 and 15 gallon for $80.
I have grafted Walton, Denzler, Rainbow, Cuccio, Nettie , Lammertz, Pike, Santa Cruz and maybe more. I make it up to the City every so often.
 

Are you still selling 5 gallon trees? I'm in SF, Ca and would love to get some already grafted.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: FRUIT LOVERS NURSERY
« on: August 16, 2018, 01:08:17 PM »
I like to think he's out there scouring the hillsides or middlemanning for the remaining seeds I paid for but were never mailed.
Who send's 3 of 5 seeds ordered? Realistically, when are you mailing me those other 2 seeds I paid for, because the answer I'm hearing from other customers is never.
If you don't have a complete seed order to sell, don't take the complete amount of money, or say you can't full fill the order.
That's obviously bad business. Don't kill the hummingbird when keeping it real.
I've never paid another seed seller that did not fullfill my order I paid for , and I didn't expect it or the lack of care from fruitlover's, so it go's.
I've emailed with no response , so there ya go.

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They are seed Pirate's not plant or fruit experts, can't trust your money with a looter of booty and such things.
Your money is not going to rebuild the forest or help save a species, it's for beer's, travel and scallywagging.
Sapote, sure it's a sapote! Delicious, creamy, mouth watering delicious too.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: White Sapote Scion for sale/trade
« on: August 14, 2018, 10:49:14 PM »

I do. Please send a PM.

do you have any scions available right now?

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Are these seeds from Hawaiian grown fruits?

Looks like the local volcanic eruption has probably ended after 95 days non stop. I have put my seed page back up. Will slowly build up my inventory again. Some current special offerings are:
Sapote de Mico (Pouteria torta subsp. gallifructa)
Kwai Muk
Pink Wampee (Clausena excavata)
Chempedak
You can see all price on the seed page http://fruitlovers.com/seedlist.html

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I would love that! I'll show you how we do it in DG or just G ;)
I was recently inspired by some folks jackhammering lava rock to make a flat spot to build, as well as scooping what little soil existed from under dead tree stumps. I'll bring the Bosch mini jack with large chisel and spade attachment , What do you want to plant? Melons?


I got a jackhammer and some really nice granite slabs that need loosening up.  Stop by anytime and show how its done.

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I understand the pro's and con's of raised beds. It's better in my opinion to take that ground that is so hard a pick axe would bounce off of it , and in the winter double dig french intensive style a bed where you are improving your rock hard soil with 50% compost and increasing your yield 7 fold, in the same amount of space.
That's no cost for wood and screws and your improving your garden bed's soil year by year.
The doug fir rot's here next to the ocean and redwoods as fast as it does, it's a different environment , either way I'm not seeing a need for raised boxes unless you can't bend over and need to garden higher up.
 
Your in an arid area lacking rain. Im in a humid area with Redwood forest, so 2 years here and Doug fir 2 X's are swiss cheese or mulch.
You can buy scrap redwood that will last much longer for the 4 X's but it's usually too exspensive to do the sides in redwood.
It think raising garden bed's above the earth is usually a losing battle against nature.
Better to double dig, and amend French Intensive style, 7 x's the produce in the same area.


It does rot eventually but it takes a lot longer than 2 years.  Ive got all my boxes made from this same stuff, going on 4 years now, they look like they will last another 4 years.

The boards in my beds are in cntact with wet dirt 24/7

Raised beds arent a losing battle.  They work great.  When your ground is too hard to dig its easier to build a bed.

I pay 30$ for 3 8ftx1ft pieces.  Cut one half then screw the ends together.    Thats its, 12 deck screws and 3 pieces of pine and get many years out of them.  Its a no brainer.

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I can cut some scion right now. Send a PM.

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Your in an arid area lacking rain. Im in a humid area with Redwood forest, so 2 years here and Doug fir 2 X's are swiss cheese or mulch.
You can buy scrap redwood that will last much longer for the 4 X's but it's usually too exspensive to do the sides in redwood.
It think raising garden bed's above the earth is usually a losing battle against nature.
Better to double dig, and amend French Intensive style, 7 x's the produce in the same area.


It does rot eventually but it takes a lot longer than 2 years.  Ive got all my boxes made from this same stuff, going on 4 years now, they look like they will last another 4 years.

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That's normal Douglas Fir. It's not rated for soil/water contact so the Doug Fir in your box will rot in about 2 years.

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If "Don't use any organics" and " Grow it in a pot or it will die" is the only advice your offering from your research I think I'll take my chances and do what I know to do, which is consequently the opposite of those 2 suggestions.
Wonder tea is what myself and my plant's drink first thing in the morning, daily! Let's compare notes and Palanda pictures come Springtime. errr , I'll give you my notes at least , it's all good.

what happen Lembug? Let's work together to help prevent extinction!

Well I already started to give advice on the problems. If someone listens to what I say they will not die. If people read on Internet all kind of home remedies like applying H2O2 or other wonder teas for sure they will die.
When I said I will not say everything I referred to some advanced techniques to make them flourish and grow fast which applies to the whole vasconcellea family.
The DNA was extracted and cryopreserved so it will not be lost forever.

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what happen Lembug? Let's work together to help prevent extinction!
Much respect for your years of research. Perhaps if you share your Solutions for Papaya problem's , it could help these species not go Extinct!
That would be very powerful to have contributed in that manner , instead of you know, them going extinct because people did not have the full knowledge of how to keep them alive.


Quote from: lebmung on July 19, 2018, 07:18:42 AM
I grow babaco and chamburo,  and have done a lot of research on vasconcellea. I have seeds from 7 species that I am trying to germinate. Most germinate only in laboratory conditions.
The problem with papayas lies in the root system, once that is damaged root rot sets in. I have a solution for every problem of papayas in containers but I will not share them as it is my own research and invested years in trial and error.
To have a faster growth you need a deep container like 3 feet. Also your plants show signs of nutrient deficiency. A foliar spray containing microelements every 10 days will improve the appearance.
There is not much research on palanda. And who wants to go to the forest to pick up the seeds, he must be kidding. That is not a vacation to walk through jungle for 3 hours with snakes and other animals, especially to go there alone.
I know the exact location in case someone is so courageous and I asked many Ecuadorian friends to go to pick up some fruits, but they declined my offer. Those who have the plants you better preserve them. The forest where palanda is, will be cut in few years so it will become a extinct species soon.
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I've got cuttings available. Send a PM.

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Pruning time on my big Pakistan Mulberry and It has a bunch of good cutting's to take .
These root and make new tree's fairly easily.
The largest and 1 of the most tastiest Mulberry's.  Taste's like Blackberry meet's Watermelon flavor
5 cuttings for $15 including shipping
10 cuttings for $25 including shipping
I will ship well wrapped in damp vermiculite on Monday or Tuesday.
I will consider trades.
Send a PM.

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Much respect for your years of research. Perhaps if you share your Solutions for Papaya problem's , it could help these species not go Extinct!
That would be very powerful to have contributed in that manner , instead of you know, them going extinct because people did not have the full knowledge of how to keep them alive.


I grow babaco and chamburo,  and have done a lot of research on vasconcellea. I have seeds from 7 species that I am trying to germinate. Most germinate only in laboratory conditions.
The problem with papayas lies in the root system, once that is damaged root rot sets in. I have a solution for every problem of papayas in containers but I will not share them as it is my own research and invested years in trial and error.
To have a faster growth you need a deep container like 3 feet. Also your plants show signs of nutrient deficiency. A foliar spray containing microelements every 10 days will improve the appearance.
There is not much research on palanda. And who wants to go to the forest to pick up the seeds, he must be kidding. That is not a vacation to walk through jungle for 3 hours with snakes and other animals, especially to go there alone.
I know the exact location in case someone is so courageous and I asked many Ecuadorian friends to go to pick up some fruits, but they declined my offer. Those who have the plants you better preserve them. The forest where palanda is, will be cut in few years so it will become a extinct species soon.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rare, unusual Variegated fruit trees
« on: July 21, 2018, 03:11:19 PM »
I understand and respect that.
Some farms are not open to the public.
Itís really hard to go to a fruit farm , especially one as unique as FFF , and not get caught up for a few hours. Itís a wonderland like your eyes have never seen ( if your really into that sort of thing).
That can add up quick to a lack of productivity and keeping up with everything if your a 1 man farming machine. How could one go to the Northern Plinia motherland and not care to look , listen and learn?

I just prefer to pick up. Iíve had bad luck with some shipped plants. Didnít care about a tour, just wanted to buy some trees.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rare, unusual Variegated fruit trees
« on: July 20, 2018, 04:17:06 PM »
No need to complain about it in this thread. Certainly locked yourself off now.
FFF thread in buy/sell/trade , most recent post may offer you an explanation of why your not getting the home nursery tour for 1 pitangatuba plant. Buy one from the Ebay link if you want one. They are available right..,
Now

would like to see variegated versions of the following,

pitangatuba
pitanga
cherry of rio
mango
longan
mamey
Canistel
carambola
rainforest plum!

Speaking of pitangatuba, Iíve emailed you at least 3 times asking about availability and when I might be able to stop by and pick one of them, and possibly some other trees up but no response. I thought maybe you were out of biz.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rare, unusual Variegated fruit trees
« on: July 20, 2018, 02:14:49 AM »
Wowza! Awesome!!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Brutal heatwave 7/06/18 in Socal
« on: July 20, 2018, 02:13:01 AM »
Desert Dreamer dropping serious knowledge far beyond heat wave talk.
Thank you. Please keep it up.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Free Cherimoya Seedlings
« on: July 14, 2018, 10:47:30 AM »
Right on. Very cool of you to share them around for free.
Have a good one.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado grafting
« on: July 14, 2018, 10:44:13 AM »
I think with everyone's micro climate being different and the climate in general being a different new normal every year, It's best to graft Avocado when the temperatures are in the 65- 80 degree range and not 80- 95 degree range.
I agree it is hit or miss as you could have a 2 week fog spell by the coast in June or July that would make for good conditions for grafts to heal. Just keep trying when the conditions are within those parameters and you will succeed at some point.
 The more we report our experiences of success the more we can learn and succeed at grafting Avocado.

I like the 1/2 green plant tie tape for grafting scion 5/8" and thicker. The 1/4" clear tie tape for all smaller grafts.
I was taught Avocado wants more cambium contact than other grafting may require and a tight cambium connection.
I want to see someone's rubber band technique as I cant imagine how to get a tight connection , easily, that way.

Jack, Thanks for the scion and advice! I got at least 1 take on each variety. It is magic and failure is part of the success in the long run. Too true. 108 in Nipomo , Wow! Topped out in the low 90's in S.C. I believe.


Robert, Good work with the BD man!
Now how do I slay these encroaching gopher's , which trap do you use?

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Free Cherimoya Seedlings
« on: July 13, 2018, 10:41:08 AM »
Isn't there a more accepted successful rootstock for Atemoya in Florida than Cherimoya?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado grafting
« on: July 13, 2018, 10:39:20 AM »
Jack just dropping in to drop knowledge on the new heads like always. Thanks Jack!

Brad,
I'd think same reason as the commercial nursery's that graft in March. It's not blazing, fry your scion hot.
I would stick them inside in the 80 degree temps , actually I'd hedge and put some in full shade in the greenhouse or under a mature avocado tree.

Why would you use rubber bands and clothespins to hold your scion to rootstock instead of green or clear plant tie tape??
neither would hold the scion as tight to the rootstock for a tight cambium match.

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Are you seeing good growth and production from any of your other varieties?

I was able to find one a few years ago at Golden Gate Palms nursery in Richmond across the bay.  The bad....price seems to be a hit and miss depending upon when you go and whose helping you (mine was $15 and not in the best of shape).

 I am on the coast side of the peninsula with marginal sun and am doubtful, yet hopeful (who doesn't like a challenge), that I will ever get it to produce (its planted near a Sir Prize, Holiday and Stewart).  Barath is correct, the Sharwil is VERRRY slow to grow (at least over here).  Its been in the ground now for 3 years and this year it finally got the memo to grow (doubled its size).  Good luck.

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There's 3 sides to every story.
You asked me a bunch of questions on items you said you were ordering and flaked out, twice.

Same way, in your words,  this sounds like you did not go to the original appointment you made " I arranged an appointment to pick it up. Waited another week in anticipation"

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